CaliburX
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Opioids Mega Merged: Ultimate poppy pod/seed tea thread - Part II
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w01fg4ng
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If you are looking a good combo, don't just drink the tea. Eat the pod straw too. then take some OTC acetemetaphine with caffeine. You won't pass out; you will itch a lot though.......HAVE FUN
CaliburX
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What's Tylenol do? I was thinking about getting some Benadryl for the itching if that works. Can anybody vouch for that?
w01fg4ng
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acetemetaphin reacts with the codeine, that's present when you eat the straw, and makes for a MUCH bigger high. combine this with the obvious morphine and other alkaloids in the straw, as well as your caffeine to hold you up just a bit, and your strait as an arrow,.....well kinda
um.....i like to scratch when i itch.
um.....i like to scratch when i itch.
Cane2theLeft
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Any antihistamine will help with the itching but be careful though because benadryl is sedating. The newer antihistamines (claritin, allegra, zyrtec) will address the itching without added sedation.
Tylenol/acetaminophen will not add anything to the high but it might add a tiny bit of pain relief nothing more.
Tylenol/acetaminophen will not add anything to the high but it might add a tiny bit of pain relief nothing more.
CaliburX
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Ah, okay. Good stuff. Much thanks!
Gotcha. Friend's going to take some Tylenol, one of those three antihistamines and some raw grounds mixed with Red Bull and will let you all know how it shakes out. Thank you for the reply!
EDIT to add: Some grounded up, powderized-in-a-blender raw grounds that is. Been taking notes through all this research.
w01fg4ng
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Good work and nice combo. Let us know how your friend does.
CaliburX
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Okay, so my friend just got a shipment and promptly blenderized three medium-sized pods (a bit bigger than a golf ball, but a bit smaller than a tennis ball), ate two regular strength Tylenol and tossed the grounds in a big glass of orange juice and went to town.
Let's see... the taste isn't THAT bad at all, but then again, they didn't seep them in warm water to get all of the surely delicious juices out. What WAS bad, and I think is a problem for a lot of people when you are talking about the urge to throw up, is the texture. My friend was pressed for time in the interests of not having anyone come home while he was making his concoction, so he didn't have a ton of time to get the grounds into a fully powderized powder. Suffice it to say, the texture that was hitting the back of the throat in the midst of a rush of orange juice wasn't the best that he'd ever had. It's almost like raw oats mixed with liquid I would think. Texture wise that is.
So my friend learned through all his research that eating the raw grounds is a lot more potent, so he's hoping three medium/mediocre sized pods eaten raw with some orange juice will do the trick for the very first time. He hasn't had any opiates for at least 45 days, more close to 60 probably. I couldn't get my hands on Red Bull or antihistamines in time, but I'll definitely be trying those with it all in the future.
What's the time it takes to kick in raw-grounds wise, like 2 hours or so? Gotta brew up some coffee real quick should some sedation kick in. My friend will keep you all updated (through me of course -- I'm such a nice friend).
Let's see... the taste isn't THAT bad at all, but then again, they didn't seep them in warm water to get all of the surely delicious juices out. What WAS bad, and I think is a problem for a lot of people when you are talking about the urge to throw up, is the texture. My friend was pressed for time in the interests of not having anyone come home while he was making his concoction, so he didn't have a ton of time to get the grounds into a fully powderized powder. Suffice it to say, the texture that was hitting the back of the throat in the midst of a rush of orange juice wasn't the best that he'd ever had. It's almost like raw oats mixed with liquid I would think. Texture wise that is.
So my friend learned through all his research that eating the raw grounds is a lot more potent, so he's hoping three medium/mediocre sized pods eaten raw with some orange juice will do the trick for the very first time. He hasn't had any opiates for at least 45 days, more close to 60 probably. I couldn't get my hands on Red Bull or antihistamines in time, but I'll definitely be trying those with it all in the future.
What's the time it takes to kick in raw-grounds wise, like 2 hours or so? Gotta brew up some coffee real quick should some sedation kick in. My friend will keep you all updated (through me of course -- I'm such a nice friend).
CaliburX
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Okay so my friend didn't really feel anything from the three pod grounds that he ate for up to 2 hours and even then, while certainly pleasant, it wasn't anything special. Since he was sure this was because they were definitely A.) Not what you would call very big pods and possibly also B.) Not of the highestly high quality, he decided to brew another three grounds in a coffee drip machine twice, followed by putting the aforementioned strained grounds into the liquid that was made and letting it stew for about 10-15 minutes.
He then filtered all this muck through a towel into two glasses, squeezed every last ounce of liquid out of it and then added some orange juice, lemonade crystal light, and iced tea. What was left -- while obviously consisting of WAY too much liquid (close to 3/4 of a 2 liter) -- was a concoction that quite honestly didn't taste very bad at all.
My friend drank this about a half hour ago and is pretty sure he's going to be peeing like a race horse for the remainder of the night, but hey, you live and learn -- then use less water to brew your poppy tea, right?
Will keep everyone posted on my friends experiences later on, despite the fact that I'm pretty sure there's very few people out there that actually care. :D
He then filtered all this muck through a towel into two glasses, squeezed every last ounce of liquid out of it and then added some orange juice, lemonade crystal light, and iced tea. What was left -- while obviously consisting of WAY too much liquid (close to 3/4 of a 2 liter) -- was a concoction that quite honestly didn't taste very bad at all.
My friend drank this about a half hour ago and is pretty sure he's going to be peeing like a race horse for the remainder of the night, but hey, you live and learn -- then use less water to brew your poppy tea, right?
Will keep everyone posted on my friends experiences later on, despite the fact that I'm pretty sure there's very few people out there that actually care. :D
CaliburX
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Oh yeah, my friend had a question as well.
In some of the pods (not all of them), there was a curved little thing with a stem that was almost shaped like an S kind of and attached to a bunched up thing that almost look like it had seeds attached to it although there were none. Hopefully this is a good enough description but anyway, 1) What is this and 2) Should I have eaten it/brewed it in the tizz-ea?
Gracias.
In some of the pods (not all of them), there was a curved little thing with a stem that was almost shaped like an S kind of and attached to a bunched up thing that almost look like it had seeds attached to it although there were none. Hopefully this is a good enough description but anyway, 1) What is this and 2) Should I have eaten it/brewed it in the tizz-ea?
Gracias.
Artificial Emotion
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Is there any sort of crude test that can determine the approximate purity of a morphine extract made from a batch of pods using an a/b extraction and other methods?
jstb0b
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I searched and search, but couldn't find any related material, so I'll bring it up. Some of my pods are black in the inside. It's definitely not mold. It smells like dirt. The pods were whole, undamaged, no holes, and perfect, but the insides are caked with the stuff. It looks like dirt, smells like dirt, so it probably is. I can't figure out how the hell dirt got in there like that. Has anybody ever come across pods like this?
dankoni
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It's the flower. Toss it or eat it... up to you. Most people I know usually toss it.
You must not have searched TOO hard, because I've seen about a thousand posts on this. If it doesn't smell like mold, the black stuff is usually just immature seeds that get stuck to the walls and stain them while decomposing. Some people claim these pods are the most potent of the bunch, but most people I know toss em to be safe. It's not worth risking an ER visit for eating mold IMO.
QuasiStoned
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I am in agreement with dankoni, though I never knew EXACTLY what the cause was of these strange pods that were usually very dark colored, sometimes soft, and had what appeared to be immature seeds stuck to the inner walls. Though they looked disgusting and often ended up as the last few pods in the box, I never experienced any negative effects from them.
CaliburX
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Ah okay, thanks dakoni.
One more quick question: Are pods with black bumps on the OUTSIDE okay? I know black in the inside are no-go's and practically never good, but it's almost like seeds on the OUTSIDE -- they're like prickly little black spots. Is that the opium that I remember reading about or is it just a certain type of pod or something?
One more quick question: Are pods with black bumps on the OUTSIDE okay? I know black in the inside are no-go's and practically never good, but it's almost like seeds on the OUTSIDE -- they're like prickly little black spots. Is that the opium that I remember reading about or is it just a certain type of pod or something?
Artificial Emotion
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^ As a general rule of thumb, yes, although in some cases it is an indication that the inside has been over run by mold.
w01fg4ng
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If you have eaten enough straw, you should get a indication that you had a good dose after 30 minutes on an empty stomach. One to hour to start peaking.
My first time eating straw wasn't that strong.... you might want to keep in mind that your body isn't sure what is going on yet, but every time after it has been GREAT. i try to limit my use to no more than a couple times a week as well.
grade 'a's' usually assure no mold depending on the quality of the source, p.somniferums of course.
My first time eating straw wasn't that strong.... you might want to keep in mind that your body isn't sure what is going on yet, but every time after it has been GREAT. i try to limit my use to no more than a couple times a week as well.
grade 'a's' usually assure no mold depending on the quality of the source, p.somniferums of course.
Artificial Emotion
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I have a load of green pods that I'd like to dry out. Apparently one way to speed up the process is to put them in the oven. Obviously the temperature needs to be slightly below 80ºC, although I'm not sure whether I need to keep the door open or not. If it's kept open then obviously it will be difficult to determine what temperature to set the oven to as an unknown amount of heat will be lost through the open door. Can anyone tell me what setting I should put the oven on and whether I should keep the door open to allow moisture to escape or not?
w01fg4ng
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Most ovens actually don't go lower than 70 or 80 C with the door closed. Keeping it open means more ventilation = faster evaporation time.....I assume that's what you are implying here when using an oven (evaporating). Just keep the door open.
macbrown21
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Hot tea better than raw grounds. My two cents
Yea there fine... Usually just dried poppy seeds on mine
I dont know where your gettin ur research, but...
Try steeping bout 8 ground pods in almost boiling water for 25min. Before adding the pods dilute 1 "tums" in the water. Drain and drink that. It'll be the color of a brown paper bag and pretty bitter. Then you can eat the grounds after if you want. That'll knock you down pretty hard. Way better than eating just the raw pods. I usually take 50mg dipenahydramine (benadryl) about 20 minutes before, if I wanna sleep after.
When people manufacture nicomorphine from pods "via addition and evaporation of acetic acid and nicotinic acid" they heat the pods in water first. Nicomorphine is roughly 3 times as potent as morphine. Dont worry about NICO though. The point is a cold water extraction or eating raw pods you will get more codeine out of them. A hot water extraction will result in more morphine.
The "tums" will bond to morphine sulfate (which is hard to digest) and become calcium morphenate. (which is easy for your body to break down) For this to happen the ideal ph level is 9.1 which about 1000mgs calcium carbonate(tums) in 1 3/4 cups of water will give you. There is a lot better things to "help" your tea than calcium carbonate, but CalCarbonate is safe and readily available. If you have a way to effectively measure and control the ph you can really make some great tea. Bottom line "cook" your pods you get a lot more out of them in my opinion.
Gets me going for probably like 10 hours when i do it this way. My oxy tolerance is about 160mg per serving so adjust accordingly I guess. Benadryl will definitely increase your nod but I find it to do little for itching. I actually would rather not have the benadryl it seems to kill some of the euphoria for me.
Hope that answers some questions even though its just a quick explanation.
Cheers
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And to some of your other questions about preparation
Yea there fine... Usually just dried poppy seeds on mine
I dont know where your gettin ur research, but...
Try steeping bout 8 ground pods in almost boiling water for 25min. Before adding the pods dilute 1 "tums" in the water. Drain and drink that. It'll be the color of a brown paper bag and pretty bitter. Then you can eat the grounds after if you want. That'll knock you down pretty hard. Way better than eating just the raw pods. I usually take 50mg dipenahydramine (benadryl) about 20 minutes before, if I wanna sleep after.
When people manufacture nicomorphine from pods "via addition and evaporation of acetic acid and nicotinic acid" they heat the pods in water first. Nicomorphine is roughly 3 times as potent as morphine. Dont worry about NICO though. The point is a cold water extraction or eating raw pods you will get more codeine out of them. A hot water extraction will result in more morphine.
The "tums" will bond to morphine sulfate (which is hard to digest) and become calcium morphenate. (which is easy for your body to break down) For this to happen the ideal ph level is 9.1 which about 1000mgs calcium carbonate(tums) in 1 3/4 cups of water will give you. There is a lot better things to "help" your tea than calcium carbonate, but CalCarbonate is safe and readily available. If you have a way to effectively measure and control the ph you can really make some great tea. Bottom line "cook" your pods you get a lot more out of them in my opinion.
Gets me going for probably like 10 hours when i do it this way. My oxy tolerance is about 160mg per serving so adjust accordingly I guess. Benadryl will definitely increase your nod but I find it to do little for itching. I actually would rather not have the benadryl it seems to kill some of the euphoria for me.
Hope that answers some questions even though its just a quick explanation.
Cheers
Party Safe
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