[MEGA]Idiosyncratic/Unusual Responses to Cannabis

[papa]

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[heavyriffer]

you know I will admit after I smoke weed I sometimes get almost hypochoindrial thoughts that there is in fact something wrong after observing how my body/veins feel tight when im high or how my heart beats hard and fast. I mean i know i dont have hypochondria or paranoid behaviour so I dont know why it happens. I think its because weed is very psychoactive in an almost trippy way not that obvious so it makes us analyze things too deep.

 

[Pothedd]

You guys are just paranoid. You're not allergic to weed or you would be dead from smoking it. Your throat would close up and you'd go into anaphylactic shock.
You don't have cancer, because THC CURES CANCER.
There have been numerous studies where pure THC was administered to cancerous lab rats. The more THC the rats received, the smaller and less numerous their tumors were.
This has been applied to modern medicine. Pure THC was administered to at least one patient with prostate cancer. His cancer went away.
Also, marijuana dilates the airways, causing you to expel most toxins with a cough.
Or a coughing fit. Either way.

Tobacco constricts your airways, causing you to hold all that nasty shit in.

That's why weed cures cancer and tobacco causes it.

 

[heavyriffer]

yeah know that but im not paranoid. Im not looking out my window or very suspicious about what people are possibly implying thinking doing ect its just anxiety nervousness that weed gives to some people or everyone in different situations.

 

[Vader]

You're not allergic to weed or you would be dead from smoking it. Your throat would close up and you'd go into anaphylactic shock.

Don't be silly. People have allergies of different severity. I'm allergic to grass, but I just get a rash, maybe red eyes, I don't get anaphylaxis.

You don't have cancer, because THC CURES CANCER.

Bold claim. Got a reference?

There have been numerous studies where pure THC was administered to cancerous lab rats. The more THC the rats received, the smaller and less numerous their tumors were.
This has been applied to modern medicine. Pure THC was administered to at least one patient with prostate cancer. His cancer went away.

Let's see these studies, then.

Also, marijuana dilates the airways, causing you to expel most toxins with a cough.

Again, source please? Are you suggesting that smoking weed can cure someone of poisoning?

Tobacco constricts your airways, causing you to hold all that nasty shit in.

That's why weed cures cancer and tobacco causes it.

What? That seems like an incredibly simple mechanism. Almost too simple... what about menthols? Do they cure cancer? Can I cure my cancer with crystal meth? Cancer is an incredibly complex disease, I think your understanding is a little naive.

 

[Pothedd]

https://www.google.com/search?q=thc...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

The fact is there's never been a documented case of cancer caused by marijuana. And there HAVE been instances of cancer being cured by pure THC.
Just Google it. You have that feature right? UTFSE? Because I've read numerous sources and I don't feel like digging them up right now.
Do it yourself.
I'm going to bed.

Edit: one of those studies was performed by Harvard. Maybe they'll make you feel better. Idfk, nor do I care. Good night.

 

[Vader]

The fact is there's never been a documented case of cancer caused by marijuana.

That doesn't mean that cannabis cures cancer! There's never been a documented case of banging your head against a brick wall causing cancer, that in no way means that it is a cure.

And there HAVE been instances of cancer being cured by pure THC.

O RLY? You know, people are actually quite interested in cancer cures, you'd have thought that a proven cure would have made the news, especially if that proven cure happened to be the world's most popular illegal drug, no?

Just Google it. You have that feature right? UTFSE?

I'm not the one making ridiculous claims. Burden of proof does not lie with the skeptic, Google is not a reference. I could say "Freemasons run the country! Google it.", and you would think it was weak shit. Which it is. Google gives me no studies, no articles from reputable journals of opinion, just youtube videos, propaganda from medical cannabis advocacy groups with huge vested interests, and other such spurious, unsubstantiated bullshit.

Do it yourself.

Do what myself? Search for studies that I don't think exist? That sounds like a massive waste of my time.

one of those studies was performed by Harvard.

One of which studies? There's an article on NowPublic (which is basically a blogging service that anyone can use, i.e. about as reliable a source of information as Twitter) that neither links to nor cites this supposed study. I call shenanigans. I'm sure that you want to believe that cannabis is a panacea, but a little critical thinking wouldn't go amiss. Anyway, sleep tight, sweet dreams.

 

[ugly]

yeah know that but im not paranoid. Im not looking out my window or very suspicious about what people are possibly implying thinking doing ect its just anxiety nervousness that weed gives to some people or everyone in different situations.

Weed just is not for everybody. Plain and simple. If it didn't make me feel this good, I wouldn't use it.

 

[Pothedd]

I call shenanigans.

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?h...ancer&btnG=Search&as_sdt=0,5&as_ylo=&as_vis=0
You really need somebody to find all the resources for you? If it interests you, study it. Don't simply disregard it and move on because somebody doesn't provide sources. Find your own sources. "a little critical thinking wouldn't go amiss."

 

[Artificial Emotion]

^ can you post up a standard trial which is a randomized double blind, placebo-controlled trial with large numbers of subjects? Or do you just have in vitro research (which is not proof)? Don't get me wrong, I'm just trying to help your side of the argument.

 

[freehugs]

Just throwing it out there that our bodies have a natural endocannabinoid system, so if you were allergic to weed, then you probably wouldn't be too well off.

 

[Vader]

You really need somebody to find all the resources for you? If it interests you, study it. Don't simply disregard it and move on because somebody doesn't provide sources. Find your own sources. "a little critical thinking wouldn't go amiss."

I do study it. That's why I know that your claims are outrageous and belie a hugely naive and oversimplified and wishful understanding of the topic. You have still failed to provide a single source, and for the record, THC killing some cancer cells in no way means that THC cures cancer. I don't know what you intended by throwing my words back at me, but critical thinking doesn't include spunking away hours of your time researching obviously bogus claims, it involves using your rational intuition to identify blatant falsehoods and misinformation.

^ can you post up a standard trial which is a randomized double blind, placebo-controlled trial with large numbers of subjects? Or do you just have in vitro research (which is not proof)?

Find it yourself! Why should anyone ever have to back up their claims?

Just throwing it out there that our bodies have a natural endocannabinoid system, so if you were allergic to weed, then you probably wouldn't be too well off.

If you were allergic to endocannabinoids, then you'd be in trouble. Cannabis is not endocannabinoids. It contains a huge number of compounds, including dozens if not hundreds of terpenoids, any one of which could trigger an allergic reaction. People can be allergic to opioid drugs, despite the endorphin system.

 

[Pothedd]

All I know is I've read multiple experiments where THC was administered to cancer cells (mainly prostate in humans) and the cells died.
I'm not going to find the research. I linked you a search on Google scholar. Click it ffs. There are tons of experiments listed there.
The amount of time it would take to find the ONE OR TWO experiments I'm referring to would be ridiculous, and I have better shit to do than appease you assholes.
Do it yourself or disregard what I say, I could care less, as it doesn't affect me at all.
A simple Google search for "THC cures cancer" brings up countless results, and the same for Google Scholar search terms "THC prostate cancer."
I'm done with this conversation, because I'm NOT doing the research for you when I've already read the studies. There are things I must be doing, and arguing over something so ridiculous is not one of them.

 

[Jibult]

Just a quick comment from the peanut gallery:

You know, when I read studies and manage to memorize the results contained therein, I also manage to remember where I found them. I normally don't just stumble upon some fella's research report about something of interest to me and then casually toss it aside like a newspaper in a waiting room when I'm done reading. I might be one of the few in that regard, though.


[EDIT: This is the best that Google and Google Scholars (which ironically hit on a thread from grasscity.com, so I wouldn't put too much confidence in the quality of the "scholarly articles" that Google comes up with) gave me after a few minutes of extra-light "research":

Cannabinoids may cause antitumor effects by various mechanisms, including induction of cell death, inhibition of cell growth, and inhibition of tumor angiogenesis and metastasis.[9-11] Cannabinoids appear to kill tumor cells but do not affect their nontransformed counterparts and may even protect them from cell death. These compounds have been shown to induce apoptosis in glioma cells in culture and induce regression of glioma tumors in mice and rats. Cannabinoids protect normal glial cells of astroglial and oligodendroglial lineages from apoptosis mediated by the CB1 receptor.[12]


source

Still looking for the man with prostate cancer who was completely cured thanks to pure THC, though. I'm also on a mission for that Harvard report, as well.]

 

[Pothedd]

I'm glad you're actually looking, because the information is everywhere.
This page has a long list of potential sources, or maybe you can find his sources sources. Either way, it's not the act of smoking that cures cancer, it's ingesting hemp oil, possibly in combination of omega 3 fatty acids.
http://www.blissful-wisdom.com/thc-...d-oil-destroys-luekemia-and-cancer-cells.html

The man who cured his prostate cancer did so with daily intake of hemp oil and a change in diet involving hemp seed. He was Canadian. That might help you find a suitable source.

 

[awkwardchild]

Falling asleep high??

Hour and a half ago i vape abunch. i try going to sleep and as i drift away i feel my muscles tingle all over...but it feels like im getting sleep pararylis? like when it happens i feel paranoid and frozen...not good.

so yea idk what to do i want to go to bed but im afraid

 

[TheAppleCore]

Dude, sleep paralysis is tripped out, once you get over the fear. You should be grateful whenever you get the chance to enter that totally weird and amazing and highly hallucinatory state of consciousness. :D

 

[shady4091]

Dude, sleep paralysis is tripped out, once you get over the fear. You should be grateful whenever you get the chance to enter that totally weird and amazing and highly hallucinatory state of consciousness. :D

^ This. I'm lucky enough to get it once in a while just sober. Embrace it, it's a real phenomenon.

 

[Prelude2TragedyII]

Really isn't that fun if you have a severe case of Sleep Paralysis. I know I do.
It's pretty damn scary when you wake up on a regular basis not able to move or breathe.
I don't get why it even happens, and so often at that.

Seems like the only way to get through is to relax, realize whats going on and continue to breathe, only
difficulty I've had with sleep paralysis is realizing that I'm conscious after waking up (which seems difficult every time, until I
realize I will suffocate if I dont relax.

Its really scary at time, but there are times that I will purposely go back to sleep just to wake up in that state again. It feels very similar to lucid dreaming.
I never had problems with sleep paralysis until after a few years of smoking weed. (and I take subutex & ativan when needed.)
Also went through times when I was younger trying many anti-depressants (which Im pretty sure screwed with my brains chemistry)

 

[papa]

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