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[A Lucid Pet]

my mothers have taken a shit on me the last two days. They're getting droopy and starting to show what I'm assuming is nute burn.

It also looks like I have powdery mold. Lemme ask you guys, you think if I get the humidity down to around 30% RH in my spot (4'x4'x4') and with temperatures ranging from 68-78 it will fade out? It's a pretty small infection so far, I think. lol The reason it came about is I was trying to be smart by having the RH ~80% so I could clone without a dome. 8) well the clones took as well as the PM. I've bagged up and tossed the worst looking ones risking leaving the others. I'm debating just throwing all of the plugs and cuttings out and bleaching the tray.

then I look at my droopy ass mothers that I just took cuttings from and sigh and come here and humbly ask for advice lol.

 

[minddetergent.]

You need to lower the ph level so the spores can't reproduce, you can use water + milk or bicarb foliar spray. don't remember the ratios off hand but you should be able to find them on google.

 

[n3ophy7e]

HELP!!

What the hell has happened to my plant?! I've only had it for like a week and this yellowing of the leaves along the inner stem literally happened overnight. Before this it was completely healthy looking. I sprayed it with a small amount of pyrethrin spray on Saturday because it had a few aphid-looking bugs on it. But I didn't think that would cause this problem? Have I been over-watering it? It's got good drainage out the bottom of the pot. I've been watering it once a day, probably 300-400mL?

 

[Wise420]

Hey N3o, nice to see you growing!

The yellowing could be due to a few things, possibly due to the pH being slightly out, over/under watered(you should try to water once every 2 days at the most, and use up to 5 litres to water her in that size pot.)or due to being root/pot bound.

Personally, what I would do is put her into the ground a or a bigger pot as she look's to big for that at the moment and still has a good 1.5 months to go untill she flowers.

If the yellowing continues then check the run off water pH and let us know were it's at.

Also what are you feeding her?

 

[Blowmonkey]

General rule = when the leaves start going over the edges of the pot, it's time to re-pot or start nuting the shit out of them and controlling the ph levels of the water. I would re-pot asap.

 

[chronic bubonic]

Looks like a simple case of nitrogen deficiency to me.... I would recommend a healthy dose of seaweed extract based fertiliser, tho if you repot into a nice nutrient rich compost then that should do the trick too... Definitely that container is too small - too small for five litres of water too I'd say (apologies wise420) - I reckon 2-3 litres every two days should suffice.

ALSO (This is a more general comment recalled from an earlier discussion re. Preludes travails on the archived thread...)If ur growing in soil and using organic nutrients then as long as you don't ridiculously over do it then PH should not be a problem - Most composts/soil mixes have nutrients in them already so you shouldn't even think about adding more until the plant has filled the pot anyway.... Thats why its such a good idea to repot regularly in early weeks (as opposed to transplanting tiny seedlings into huge pots), that way you don't end up with loads of unused nutrients/chemical deposits in the soil. Anyway, its been said before and i'll say it again - If ur growing in soil, use organic nutrients.. The bud tastes better and PH/lock-out problems will be a thing of the past!!

 

[chronic bubonic]

I mean, telling me that Im screwing up I can take, It's just when Im being told I'm screwing up and not being given the answers to fix whats wrong pisses me off.

Prelude... you've been given so many answers over the last few months its shocking you should feel like that. I think the problem is you've ignored the simple ones and just gone for the complicated white coat stuff and as a result got yourself into a complete state of confusion regarding chemical treatments and various other confounding variables.

What you have got tho (from what i recall) is a perfectly good environment to grow weed. So, once you've harvested ur current bunch hide all ur chemicals and start the next lot off in a good quality compost with a bit of perlite, gradually increase the size of the pots as the plants grow, make sure you give them enough water and watch them flourish! When you do need to start adding nutes use an organic fertiliser.

Pot will grow anywhere so long as you don't poison it!!

 

[n3ophy7e]

Fantastic advice Wise, BlowMonkey and chronic. Thank you!!

I think I have been overwatering her, I've always been concerned about this. So I'll just stick to once every 2 days now.
And I'll buy a bigger pot this afternoon and re-pot her.

Any specific type of potting mix I should use??

I've also got some seaweed extract fertiliser from my last growing attempt so I'll dose her up with a little bit of that once I've repotted her.

Thanks again!!

 

[Artificial Emotion]

Seaweed extract contains 'relatively' little macronutrients. I would use this more as a tonic just to help with stress or as a treat. This is jut something to keep in mind. Since it is rich in trace elements and has a decent amount of potassium and sodium, it can prevent deficiencies in these. Just make sure you use the seaweed extract you've mixed up straight away and don't leave it sittin around for ages.

In my opinion the single best way to see whether you need to pot up (i.e. pot in a larger pot) is to see whether roots are coming out the holes in the bottom. If this is the case and especially if you see roots circling when you pull the roots out (meaning it's rootbound), it needs a bigger container for sure.

As for watering, you need to have both wet and dry cycles. You need to water until run off when the soil surface is dry. The best way to tell is to actually pick it up and feel the weight so you can see if it's light in weight and therefore dry. Once you get a feel for it, this is the best way to tell if you need to water. The reason you need to leave it to dry out, but not to the point of wilting, which kills off fine feeder root hairs, is because it allows the roots to take up much needed oxygen. Watering too frequently causes waterlogging and is no good.

I don't know what potting mixes are available where you live, but try and get one that contains loam since it will supply a stable amount of nutrients and encourages growth of healthy soil biology. If I were you I would get a gardening fork, a mattock and some manure/garden compost and pit it in the ground like mentioned.

 

[Artificial Emotion]

HELP!!

What the hell has happened to my plant?! I've only had it for like a week and this yellowing of the leaves along the inner stem literally happened overnight. Before this it was completely healthy looking. I sprayed it with a small amount of pyrethrin spray on Saturday because it had a few aphid-looking bugs on it. But I didn't think that would cause this problem? Have I been over-watering it? It's got good drainage out the bottom of the pot. I've been watering it once a day, probably 300-400mL?

Sorry, I meant to say, as for the yellowing, it just needs a good feed. That's all! Get a decent organic grow nutrient and you're good to go. I wouldn't over-analyse it and start messing about, making things more complicated than it needs to be (not that you would) however.

Like I said, you shouldn't water every day. That's too much in all liklihood as it will cause waterlogging. Watering daily is only really needed for smaller pot sizes that dry out much much quicker.

 

[Wise420]

Check out bunnings and buy the organic potting mix which is an orange and white coloured bag. Add some extra perlite for drainage and Dynamic Lifter(grandular pellets) and she will love the mix.

 

[n3ophy7e]

^^ Perfect, thank you!!

Fantastic advice Artificial Emotion, thank you too mate!

I will report back when she is looking healthier

 

[misteee]

^^ Perfect, thank you!!

Fantastic advice Artificial Emotion, thank you too mate!

I will report back when she is looking healthier

heya see you everywhere on this site and im happy to see u here too

plant looks very nice, as for your question seems like everyone has answered that for you.... it really does pay to use a decent nutrient in my opinion, hope your grow turns out successfull.

so happy with my little family, gona cut their heads off this weekend and determine their sex very excited, ill be devistated if they are all males tho

 

[n3ophy7e]

heya see you everywhere on this site and im happy to see u here too

Cheers mate!! I will update in this thread or the CD pics thread when she makes progress

so happy with my little family, gona cut their heads off this weekend and determine their sex very excited, ill be devistated if they are all males tho

Good luck mate, let us know how it goes. A mate of mine did the same thing a couple of weeks ago and they were alllllll males!! Booooo

 

[Artificial Emotion]

For feed I strongly recommend getting a bottle of fishmix. It's been the same for more than a decade and still works as well now as it did years ago. People often do whole grows with it, since it works so well. It should be available in the US, Canada, Austrailia etc. It's very effective and is worth trying, especially on outdoor grows.

 

[chronic bubonic]

Generally maxicrop works for me.... I've heard of (or should that be smoked?...) recent successful experimentations with 'One' fertilizer which is available in garden centres in the UK and is made by the same people who make maxicrop I think, any experience of this Artificial Emotion?

Anyway here's a link for n3ophy7e....
http://www.multicrop.com.au/fertilis.htm

And here's one for everybody!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odiAlcgOrRA

 

[Arobskittle]

Originally Posted by Prelude2TragedyII
"I mean, telling me that I'm screwing up I can take, It's just when I'm being told I'm screwing up and not being given the answers to fix whats wrong pisses me off."


All of your questions about EC and PPM and PH I can't answer and i'm sick of hearing you focus so much on this. I feel like that is one of the things you really did wrong on this grow; you tried way to hard to control the ph of the water. soil buffers ph naturally. I do not do any measuring and have no issues. Hydro is where ppm actually matters. What every one says about simplicity you should listen to it. Honestly you have made this out to be much more difficult that it is.

for your next grow look into making a complete soil like the moonshine mix so that all you have to do is add water. it will change your life. no more of this PPM bullshit.

For your current grow try getting some dolomite lime and mixing up a few tablespoons in a gallon of water with like a teaspoon of epsom salts and feed that to one of the yellowing plants.

Nobody knows whats wrong exactly but we are close I feel. They look pretty good for having that severe yellowing. If they are looking frosty right now,then you will have a decent crop. Even if is a bit odd and not as much as it could have been, it will still be something the YOU grew and it will be so much bomber because of this.

 

[Artificial Emotion]

arob, I couldn't agree more with what you just said, really. Everything you just said in that post is bang on.

I mean no offence Prelude, but when I say go organic, don't bother with ph, EC etc and it seems you are ignoring the advice, I then become reluctant to give further advice.

If you take on board what we're saying we'd be more inclined to went to help more. I've been meaning to say it but have held back because I didn't want to cause offence or create conflict. However it seems I'm not the only one thinking this.

I hope you sort the issues you've had out but you need to rethink your approach to growingbin soil. Either that or switch to hydroponics since it seems like it might be better suited to you. Please don't take offence and disregard what were saying just forbthe sake of it. I'm only trying to help.

 

[Artificial Emotion]

Generally maxicrop works for me.... I've heard of (or should that be smoked?...) recent successful experimentations with 'One' fertilizer which is available in garden centres in the UK and is made by the same people who make maxicrop I think, any experience of this Artificial Emotion?

Anyway here's a link for n3ophy7e....
http://www.multicrop.com.au/fertilis.htm

And here's one for everybody!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odiAlcgOrRA

For many years Maxicrop was the main seaweed extract of choice. However, it has become apparent that they use harsh solvents/alkalis to extract the seaweed extract. This is less than ideal and hence is why I choose to use SM3, which has been around for more than 50 years. The main difference is that SM3 is cold extracted, meaning the cytokinin-type substances and the whole fragile plethora of phytochemicals remains viable. SM3 is also very cost effective (I think it's even cheaper than Maxicrop when you take into consideration the concentration. SM3 is used at a rate of only 2ml per litre of water, making it economical. It's important to use a cold-extracted seaweed extract when used in combination with beneficials as the residual chemicals used during the extraction process can potentially kill off at least part of the beneficial biology.

Some of the best organic fertilizers available in the UK are Plant Magic Oldtimer grow/bloom IMO (which happens to be cheaper than anything you can get in a garden centre, strangely enough!)
and Biobizz fishmix. All other Biobizz products are generally shit after they changed things in the company, however fishmix remains unchanged.

There are many decent hydro nutrients but in coco I consistently hear the greatest number of positive reviews about Hesi coco nutrints. Far more than any other brand, without a doubt.

I personally use GHE Florabloom and Floramicro as the Lucas formula in NFT at the moment. However, I may try the one part green dream for simplicity, in my aero system next grow. It uses a unique 'slurry' system that creates uniform dosing with the bottle being physically shaken. It apparently works just as well ad many 2- and 3-part nutrients but is easier to use

 

[dontstopthemusic]

those who use soil just buy organic soil from your hydro stores from companies like foxhill... its pretty much gonna be all you need from start to finish...

currently (my first grow)... dual 400 mh/hps running in a closet thats 4' wide 2' deep and 8' tall... i will only grow ONE plant... the cutting was taken about 3 days ago from a mother plant i started from seed about a month and a half ago (grown under florescent lamp 24hr light)... i allowed the mother plant to kick into flowering cycle the day after i took the cutting and on the second day it had the tell tale hairs... i currently have her sitting under the same florescent lamp as the clone, i need to wait about another 3-5 days as thats how long my clones usually take to pop roots out of the media.

system:

bubble bucket (copied rumpleforeskin from gc forums, instructables etc)
dual 6" cool tube one running mh one running hps
inline fan through carbon scrubber which vents through the roof of the closet (hot air rises make it flow where it wanna go)
nute: cns17 for veg/ripe and bushmaster
coco
silica rocks (holds moisture pretty good)

i chose this system cause of my location and whats available... i tested my nutes on soil plants (used regular potting soil that was flushed after a eggplant had died) to see how well they would react to the nutes... i was surprised... (i'll post pictures when my girl brings her laptop back)...

anyhow... anyone who is looking to grow... do it in soil the first time... thats what i suggest... get used to the strain you are growing... find its veg time, ripe time, harvest time and above all... dont rush a good thing... cure your weed well! a good harvest can be lame if you skimp on curing it well... i started by learning how to germinate the seeds, i germinated about 40 seeds and took the best 10, put them in 4" pots, waited 3 weeks, gave away the 6 worst, waited 3 more weeks and started their flower cycle, waited 1 week checked for hairs gave away all but 2 best plants... and from there i ended up where i am now... trial and error and about 1 year of LEARNING before i even started my first hydro grow or real grow for the fact of the matter. my uncle tried to put a few of my seeds in a bucket with miracle grow... the plant died in a matter of weeks... i extended just some of the things i learned from guys just like you and now he has a really nice set up of; grape god, and 2 white widows under an hps lamp. hes 3 months in with plants about 6' tall top colas just as big as soda cans, but im still not even getting started... note: hes in another state all the info i gave him has been via text or email...

side note:

my first soil grow was done in an upside down garden planter from wal-mart... i was curious... its a TERRIBLE way to grow... the plant stays in veg WAY TO LONG and takes forever to finish... also the container is very small and the roots will run out of room to grow which will affect your plant... i got about 3 dry oz out of it and had to wait about 9 months (i grew it outside) i can post pics of this set up also... a friend growing the same strain was done in about 6 i believe growing it in the same sunlight just in a bucket on the ground. his buds were much more dense and each plant had easily 2x to 3x more weight dry than mines. if you have time and wanna mess around its a good science experiment and costs about $30 for the container and soil, for me the sunlight was free.

hightimes master growers guide 2010 is a great addition to my coffee table... not a plug for the mag but a definite help to get me started and make my final decisions.

any member whos worried about ph levels and such... NOT ONCE did i ever take a ph test on that upside down plant... what i did was watch HOW THE PLANT reacted day to day and adjusted from there... leaves dry/crispy; add water, leaves curl down; back off the nutes, leaves turn color; add mag or what ever to compensate... dont ask people to hand feed you step by step... they are YOUR plants, and you should take the initiative to make it work... im not trying to pick on you... the information you need is readily available all over the internet and in books/mags, or like me trial and error.

carry on...