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Which is why I didn't post the breeder. I thought you had me on ignore homie?

Anyway, 99% of the time it is grower error that makes plants go hermie, although it is true the strain must be somewhat unstable.

Anyway, greenhouse is within my means, mr nice not so much.

For the record, I just finished Ice From Nirvana and an unknown from Mandala, both breeders are known to be on the low end and have herm tendencies. With all the bullshit they went through, not a single nanner or bean one either.
 
Hell yea I'm looking forward to running some of THseeds selections in the future, they really have some nice looking dank. Glad the nirvanas turned out for ya, ive heard of some people having problems with fems from nirvana, such as our friend Mr.munchies above.
 
Yeah I feel ya, I cruised the growing forums pretty hard before I took the chance. I think in the past they have definitely had some sketchy 'strains' if you can call em that, but I've not heard of too many problems from their Ice, Wonder Woman, WW, etc. Did see a guy herm Ak-48, but it was totally his fault.

When I can settle on something from one of the premier breeders I'll set that up as a mainstay, but until then I don't like throwin $100+ for seeds I'll be growing under a 150.
 
Greenhouse seeds have an awful reputation and there's no way the sheer number of hermied plants people get from their seeds is down to grower error. Mind you, complain to them and they'll either use that excuse or that the old souvenir line.

Like I said, the breeder who built up GHS's reputation left and took his parent plants with him. Greenhouse seeds also buy cannabis cups and are generally corrupt.

Greenstar, I've heard plenty of people complain about hermies so I know it's a problem.

Arjan is a complete tosser and has made a lot of enemies. He has a lot to answer for.

By the way, I consider Super Lemon Haze to be a good strain. However, I think it's quality is an exception to the rule. You could say it's their saving grace, however it had nothing to do with that cock, Arjan.

My opinions regarding GHS are not unique by the way. It doesn't take long to find out what sort of reputation Arjan has built up. Unfortunatelly it doesn't help that they used to be a good company with excellent strains pre-Arjan. At the moment, GHS and perhaps one or two other companies such as the mutts nuts have the worst rep amonst any breeders. However, if you want to go and buy their strains, knock yourself out.
 
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mr.muncheez said:
I ordered Snow White (white widow X unnamed American Indica) seeds from Nirvana and they hermie like crazy..probably because I chose feminized and they have unstable strains..that is the last time I do that again!! Besides, the sour diesel I have is tough to beat..nothing I've seen recently comes close to the taste or potency of the real SourD! From what I have heard though, is that TH Seeds puts out some really great stable genetics..if you are ordering in the USA, they will not ship, you gotta go through The Attitude Seed Bank.
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I use Attitude as well over here in the UK. They seem to be the best as they give freebies away. At the moment I'm growing a Reserva Privada Kandy Kush Fem seed at the moment which I got free from them.

The only problem is they keep giving me shitty shitryder strains which I don't want. Well, I might use them in a guerilla grow next year.

I think the best way to avoid hermies is to go with regular seeds as a rule and stick to that choice. I know it's a pain, selecting out the females to keep, but it's worth it, as you have a greater chance of getting a better mum. Unfortunatley with fem seeds, you're stuck with the genetics the breeder has chosen. Usually they choose plants that a) yield well and b) don't go hermie on you. Unfortunately they don't care about the quality of the smoke, so you're kind of limited. However, with regular seeds, about 5% or roughly 1 in 20 seeds will be an excellent, high yielding strain that smokes well. So, in the end, regular seeds are the best option in the long term if you're selecting mums.

With the genefinder method you don't have to wait ages for pre-flowers to form naturally anyway. All you need to do is switch to 12/12 for 3 days and wait a weed for the sex to show, allowing you to cull/separate males.
 
subopm420 said:
Which is why I didn't post the breeder. I thought you had me on ignore homie?

Anyway, 99% of the time it is grower error that makes plants go hermie, although it is true the strain must be somewhat unstable.

Anyway, greenhouse is within my means, mr nice not so much.

For the record, I just finished Ice From Nirvana and an unknown from Mandala, both breeders are known to be on the low end and have herm tendencies. With all the bullshit they went through, not a single nanner or bean one either.
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Grower error certainly contributes to plants turning hermie, but I wouldn't put it at 99% of the time. Nothing else in my closet shot bananas except the strains from Nirvana..the sent 10 free along with the Snow White..the stuff is good, but none of it wound up to be a killer keeper. I gave the Snow a 2nd chance, this time from clone, because seeds just grow different than clones, and still, the buds get big and plump, but dry a bit on the spongy side and they shoot bananas..I'm finished with the stuff from Nirvana, I'm gonna just work with the Sour D and have a couple of purple kush's in each cycle, they are lower yielding, but killer smoke..I'd rather fill my available space with something I know yields good and is supreme.
 
If I ever order seeds again, I'm going through Attitude to get TH's Darkstar or MK-Ultra or Mendicino Madness, or Sage N Sour .. uh...their stuff is sooo nice
 
mr muncheeze, the strain to look out for is Serious 6, from Serious seeds. I've heard from people in the loop that it's going to be one hell of a strain. Although there have been a few teething problems it should be out early 2011.
 
Well, the people I live with found out Ive been growing in the closet, and I have my card, and they didn't care, so , lots of weight off my shoulders today, but, they had the cable guy come over, and he opened my closet and all my plants are in flowering, they were in their dark cycle, they are about 5 days into flower, and I remember reading I can still give them a little bit of veg nutes during the first two weeks of flower, Im wondering if they are gonna be okay, as long is this doesnt happening more than once or twice during flowering should I be okay?
 
They should be straight. I flashed my plants a couple times and no worries.

Super lemon haze is in the price range of some ofthe higher end breeders, so I might as well Go elsewhere.

Disapointed to hear all the bad rep ghs has aquired. I still like nirvana, and in the end you can't really compare top end to low end; BMW and Kia just aren't the same thing. Kia will get me to work, it just might not air condition my ass.
 
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Well, the people I live with found out Ive been growing in the closet, and I have my card, and they didn't care, so , lots of weight off my shoulders today, but, they had the cable guy come over, and he opened my closet and all my plants are in flowering, they were in their dark cycle, they are about 5 days into flower, and I remember reading I can still give them a little bit of veg nutes during the first two weeks of flower, Im wondering if they are gonna be okay, as long is this doesnt happening more than once or twice during flowering should I be okay?
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I'd be more worried that the cable guy opened your closet and saw your plants..you were keeping it from the very ppl you live with..that's cool that they know now and are okay with it, but now there's a complete stranger out there that saw a closet full of marijuana plants and knows the exact location....that would bug me the fuck out!!!
 
Well, the cable guy knows it was medical, my grandfather was standing there when he opened the closet (My grandpa didn't even know I had a cannabis card) but the first words out of his mouth was "It's medical" , but didn't know if it was or not, lol.

In the county where Im at, or area, I should say,
If I were to have my plants stolen, or a large ammount of weed stolen, I could report it, and the police WOULD return it to me if they found it, so, I know the cable guys name, I know he's the only one that knows other than my Family and Girlfriend, so, He'd be the guy , call the cops, get my shit back, haha, calling the cops cause someone stole my weed, now, that, would be different...

(Only reason I say that is because in the paper, a guy had 6ozs of Marijuana stolen, all in labeled bags, the police found the person that stole it, found the labeled marijuana, and returned it to the man)

Guess I do have reason to be a little more paranoid,
I just guess Im so relieved that my family actually told me I can grow inside and smoke out in the backyard when ever I want...thats like the best birthday present ever (just turned 21 on the 14th , woohoo, even though I dont really remember much of that night)

Anywho, I got a new phone, Ill post some pics from it and see how the camera is on it, hope its not too bad.
 
subopm420 said:
They should be straight. I flashed my plants a couple times and no worries.

Super lemon haze is in the price range of some ofthe higher end breeders, so I might as well Go elsewhere.

Disapointed to hear all the bad rep ghs has aquired. I still like nirvana, and in the end you can't really compare top end to low end; BMW and Kia just aren't the same thing. Kia will get me to work, it just might not air condition my ass.
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Hey bro, its true there has been some drama over Greenhouse seed company, but they have TONS of loyal customers with no hermie problems. If you get any fem seeds go greenhouse. you wont be dissapointed. I'd steer clear of any other fem seeds though.
 
Yeah, I know, any ammount of light is what screws it up, thats why I was kinda, bleh, but then I realized they were still more in veg state then flower, so, they should be fine, im just glad it wasn't a month into flower or something,


And hah, yeah I knew the Cable guy was coming to fix the phone, I was at work, Didn't think they'd need to get to my modem , but what ever, atleast everythings all out in the open and I dont have to smoke in secrecy anymore. and I know that its okay with the Fam to be growing

(Which is weird considering they've kicked me out of the house before just for smoking bud, lol, but now that I have a script, its all okay, weird)

Though I have noticed a burst of upward growth since I switched to the HPS
 
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Some random quotes I found with a very quick search on Greenhouse seeds:

Kublia from 420 says:

I am sick of getting male plants in so called female seeds from GSC, out of ten SSH i got 30% males (not hermies but full males)
out of ten Himalaya gold i got 20% males
out of ten WW i got 30% males
this is a crap percentage from a so called top breeder. This is not an isolated incident as my local grow shop reports the same problem from many customers when using GSC. Greenhouse seed Company need to sort their shit out as their reputation is taking serious damage, and i for one will never use them again. Maybe if they stopped believing all their own hype they might rescue what reputation they have left.
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Peacepipe from Greenpassionorg says:
Arjan calls himself the "King of Cannabis", is that conceited or what? Also, they buy most of their seeds off at least 4 other breeders (who undoubtedly sell to others as well). Basically they're doing more buying than breeding. Also, they have sneaky sales tactics.
They advertised Feminized Jack Herer 5 for 35-euros for over a year but they never actually has them. so in the meantime they got your attention and you're on their page and you might buy something else from them. And have you seen their "Strainhunters" video? They get all decked out to "hunt" for strains in Africa. It's really laughable. He, Arjan, also claimed, in a full page open letter in Spanish cannabis mags, that Greenhouse was "helping" people in 3rd world countries with feminized seeds?????
(how?he doesn't explain). The letter shows a photo of Arjan holding not one but 2 glasses of champagne, as if saying "Here's to ME". His partner Franco in an article admitted that he wasn't 100% sure anymore if cannabis should be legalized because so many 3rd world people who grow might lose out if it were!! Really, no joke. I think he's afraid greenhouse would lose out.
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Redeyeknight from uk420 says:

don't know but have to say that Arjan who runs Greenhouse is a rip off merchant, Shantibaba/Blakey now is with Mr Nice and most of the strains that made Greenhouses name are his and available from Mr Nice still using the same parents unlike Arjan who as far as i know just used the same strains to breed with and not the same parents cos shantibaba took them with him.
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XBRPete says from Greenpassionorg says:

I question Arjan's genetics... if you read on about Shanti and Neville or had talked to them about the split with Arjan you would probably not be so quick to buy ....the mothers went with Shanti..

The Tralala Company at its finest deceptions...the new Green House Seed Co. is not the same as before Shanti split...
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Tokecrazy from GPPorg says:

Greenhouse seeds does not have there own strains.When shanti and neville and mr.nice left green house they took with them there strains.All but the mothers of two.A-hole arjan took the ww and cross it with a lot of strains calling them his.He's not the breeder he say he is.Nr.nice and shanti now call there White Widow by the name of Black Widow. It is there's and it's the white widow. I have there a-train and the Black widow growing now. Peace
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ukcheesehead from 420 says:

greenhouse seeds co says that there seeds are 100% all female and if you get hermies or males its down to your growing skills . all that is a load of pooh.gif
i class myself as a good grower and when i did some arjan haze and white widdow out of 10 seeds only 4 germed and i had 1 female other 3 were hermies .
i avoid greenhouse seeds . i emailed them and my reply was it was my poor growing skills
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Bambu from 420 says

e had some hermies and other probs with GHS too. Good luck to Maui with his brill plants, i'm sure he's made you feel much better!
Try make the most of the girls you got, you've got some right? Put it to experience mate and don't buy from them again if they've pissed you off, at least that's some sort of revenge!

Fuck lining the pockets of the rich too. Look at the cunt in that photo
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TheSkunkmunkie from 420 says:

I feel the same way about GHS mate, my last seed grow was x5 Super Lemon Haze,x5 Kings Kush & x5 Church from Greenhouse SC, Total waste of my time & money most of them were either hermie or full blown male!! Not one single proper female plant out of 15 so called feminised seeds!! pinch.gif
I went with GHS because of supposed great & reliable c.cup winning genetic's too!! But from the shit what I got this aint the case...
I for one will not be using GHS anytime again
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I could go on and on and on, but I don't have time. Basically there are probably 100 disappointed/ripped off customers to every 1 satisfied customer of Greenhouse seeds. The sheer number of bad reports from people who've bought from them should ring alarm bells. I hate to see people get ripped off.

Oh and it's the same thing with LED lights. Certain american forums get kickbacks from GHS to delete any bad comments made about their seeds. So, reading glowing customer feedback from these forums won't exactly give you an accurate picture of the quality of their seeds - it's the same situation with LED manufacturers paying mods/admins to do the same thing.

If you want cheap seeds, I would not settle with a rip off merchant like GHS. There are plenty of other breeders that sell quality genetics for very little money. And anyway, MR Nice seeds sell packs of 18 seeds for as little as £20.99, so they're not expensive in my opinion. Sure, some packs are more expensive, but that's the same with pretty much any other breeder, including GHS.
 
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Prelude2TragedyII said:
Yeah, I know, any ammount of light is what screws it up, thats why I was kinda, bleh, but then I realized they were still more in veg state then flower, so, they should be fine, im just glad it wasn't a month into flower or something,


And hah, yeah I knew the Cable guy was coming to fix the phone, I was at work, Didn't think they'd need to get to my modem , but what ever, atleast everythings all out in the open and I dont have to smoke in secrecy anymore. and I know that its okay with the Fam to be growing

(Which is weird considering they've kicked me out of the house before just for smoking bud, lol, but now that I have a script, its all okay, weird)

Though I have noticed a burst of upward growth since I switched to the HPS
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If you're in veg, opening the doors and letting lights in briefly will most certainly not cause hermies like you would expect. It's only when there's constant light leaks into the grow room that you'll get problems.

That's normal to get stretch at the start of flowering. That's why many people don't use HPS for the first two weeks of flowering. In fact, I'd suggest you stick to MH for the first couple of weeks of 12/12 to prevent this very thing, since shorter plants means the foliage at the bottom will be closer to the light and your overall yield will be up.

You will find your plants will double or even triple in height, so you can see how it would be a problem.
 
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