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[MEGA] Edibles/Oral Cannabis

^ I would seriously suggest you try oral cannabis again before concluding you have an unusual metabolism or that it simply doesn't work for whatever reason. Oral cannabis is infamously a bit hit and miss compared to smoking, so I would just give it another go, taking care not to over do it, as overdosing on oral cannabis can be terrifying (I know from personal experience, as it landed me in hospital when I had a full blown psychotic, panic-induced attack).

It may have just been your frame of mind, which caused you to not register that you were high. Really there's no point in trying to second guess why you didn't get high as it may have been due to any number of reasons. So, just have another try and then decide where to go from there ;)
 
Yerg, is it possible to try it on yourself to decide based on empirical experimentation?

Then you could disregard the theory and decide based on your personal experiences, which is more valid than anything you might read. It would give you an excuse to get wasted!! I would gladly donate the weed to you if I could as I wouldn't mind knowing the answer myself as it interests me too. I wish that were possible, but hey, you can only dream.
 
Yeah, the problem is that at the moment I'm living in the middle of nowhere with no weed. Watch this space around the end of April-beginning of May when the experimenting can commence.
 
Well when you do try it do try to remember to post back with your findings if no one gives a credible answer based on scientific evidence as opposed to conjecture or heresay.
 
Artificial Emotion said:
^ I would seriously suggest you try oral cannabis again before concluding you have an unusual metabolism or that it simply doesn't work for whatever reason. Oral cannabis is infamously a bit hit and miss compared to smoking, so I would just give it another go, taking care not to over do it, as overdosing on oral cannabis can be terrifying (I know from personal experience, as it landed me in hospital when I had a full blown psychotic, panic-induced attack).

It may have just been your frame of mind, which caused you to not register that you were high. Really there's no point in trying to second guess why you didn't get high as it may have been due to any number of reasons. So, just have another try and then decide where to go from there ;)
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Ive tried eating this stuff over 20 times at this point...

I get a faint buzz for a few hours, regardless of the (oftentimes massive) doses...

Ive tried dispensary edibles, friends stuff, hash edibles....Nothing seems to do it for me though...
 
If it counts, there are many reports of hashish being eaten straight, with psychedelic effects.

I would imagine that THC would be liquid or near to it at body temperature (37 deg) anyway.
 
^Yes, I doubt that the effects of cannabis would have become known as early as they did if it was not active in a raw form. I also know someone who, at customs on the return leg of an Amsterdam trip, ate a few grams of hash and was certainly very stoned, and I imagine that many others have similar stories.
 
Cannabutter without (or with very little) THC?

I've saved up my vaporized weed. I don't keep re-vaporizing it until there is nothing left. I take the first couple of hits (on a relatively low temperature, somewhere around 340 degrees) and then put the vaporized weed in a bag. I assume that the remaining plant material now contains a much higher ratio of cannabinoids to THC.

So anyway I'm currently making it into cannabutter but all the recipes that I've read specify the solubility of THC, not the other cannabinoids so I'm not sure if the process would be any different.

Also, there seems to be some confusion about the time necessary to boil the material. Some people say half an hour, others say 24 hours... Not sure who to believe, but honestly I couldn't be fucked cooking something for 24 hours - that seems a little crazy.

It is boiling now, so any quick advice would be useful.

Thanks,
-tD
 
Yeah I meant the "other" cannabinoids, the ones that vaporize at a higher temperature than THC. I probably should've been more clear. I don't know the names of them so I just said cannibanoids/THC in the hope that people would understand what I was getting at. I've been vaporizing at relatively low temperatures so I assume that I'm inhaling largely THC and leaving the "other" cannabinoids...
 
I assume that the remaining plant material now contains a much higher ratio of cannabinoids to THC.
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Why do you assume that? CBD (the other main psychoactive cannabinoid) boils at or below 356 F, so pretty close to the temp. you're vaping at. If there is very little THC, then your cannabutter is unlikely to do much. Cannabinoids don't have to be in solution in order to be active (I've merged my thread on the subject into this one). However, both THC and CBD are biosynthesised as carboxylic acids, so they may need to be heated in order to kick that pesky COOH group off. However, in properly cured cannabis this process should already have occurred. In any case, 24 hours is excessive, an hour tops should be sufficient IMO.

Merged w/ edibles megathread.
 
Boiled it for about three hours, just separated the water. I'm not sure if it's going to have much effect. It's just an experiment, making cannabutter out of vaporized weed. Going to eat a cake tomorrow. Will post a proper report then.
 
Yerg said:
me said:
I assume that the remaining plant material now contains a much higher ratio of cannabinoids to THC.
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Why do you assume that? CBD (the other main psychoactive cannabinoid) boils at or below 356 F, so pretty close to the temp. you're vaping at.
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I vaporize between 320 and 340 F. There is a digital display on the vaporizer. It never reaches as high as 356. So, I'm assuming that a substantial amount of the CBD remains. I have tested this theory somewhat by re-vaporizing old weed (that no longer had any effect at lower "THC" temperatures) at higher "CBD" temperatures. There are a couple of articles designed for medicinal marijuana users floating around about separating THC from CBD by altering the temperature at which you vaporize it. So clearly it is possible to some extent. The weed probably still contains some minor amount of THC but definitely not as much as it used to. Whereas I don't see why the CBD would have been affected much. You said 356 "or lower". What does the "or lower" mean? Could CBD vaporize 20 degrees below it's boiling point? If so, how?
 
Weed Oil Brownies

Hey Im making a batch of brownies tomorrow and really have no idea how much oil I need to put in? Just a store bought box of brownies so just one pan. Anyone whos ever made them with hash oil or even hash let me know how much you used and how it worked out for you, thanks!
 
You said 356 "or lower". What does the "or lower" mean? Could CBD vaporize 20 degrees below it's boiling point? If so, how?
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If you're inhaling from the vape, you're lowering the pressure. Substances boil at lower temperatures under reduced pressure. Of course, I don't know how your vape works.

raver, a pretty common answer is that 0.5-1g of weed is a good amount to use. I use just over half a gram of Moroccan hash for a pleasant, but not overpowering high. Basically, take an amount of oil equivalent to that much weed for each brownie you intend to make (a "pan" isn't a very precise measure) and use that. So, if you're making 8 brownies, use an amount of oil that is equivalent to 4-8g on nice weed.
 
I see. I wasn't aware of pressure as a factor. I'm pretty knew to the world of vaping.

Another question: For some reason I forgot that my oven is broken and now I have cannabutter but I'm not sure what to do with it... Until I fix my oven, what are good ways to use cannabutter other than baking? - like if I used it to cook something like a stir-fry or something would that work? or should I just mix it in to some soup or something?
 
Spread it on toast, fry stuff in it, make hot buttered rum...the only limit is your imagination! If you eat it, it will work, so just use in anything you would usually put butter in.
 
Great, thank you sir.

Edit: Just ate half an ounce of vaporized-weed-cannabutter mixed into some scrambled eggs. After fifteen-twenty minutes I can already feel it coming on strong. I think I might have eaten too much.

Edit2: It's not too much. I'm very stoned but it's a different kind of stone than when I normally eat a cookie or whatever. It's very clean. I can think clearly but at the same time I'm completely relaxed - more so than I've ever been while stoned. Probably the best stone I've ever had. Not a total head fuck, just a nice clean mellow high. There's definitely value in cooking with your vaporized weed - after this, I will continue to recycle my vaporized weed into edibles. There's no point letting anything go to waste IMO.

Edit3: I'm pretty convinced what I experienced was a "CBD rich" stone, which is what I was aiming for. The high was unlike that of normal marijuana. At first I felt active and had a heightened sense of confidence and awareness while being completely relaxed. Eventually I fell into a deep sleep (in the middle of the afternoon.) Best sleep I've had for ages. I feel refreshed. Definitely going to try this again and again. 'Tis an interesting experience.
 
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