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Damn that sucks man.. I have no idea what thats like.. No otc meds that work for you?
Good luck bro. Just be carefull
Good luck bro. Just be carefull
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X-termi
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I am going to an event next Saturday with a friend and my gf. We haven't used e for at least 13 months. I am not looking for a long ride, I just want to enjoy the event on the drugs without a big comedown. Me and my friend are quite easily effected by drugs, my gf a bit harder, but she is very small.
I had some 150mg pills (lab tested) and split them up into bombs of 3/4'ds and halves. I am planning on taking the first dose (around 112mg) at T and then the second dose (75mg) at T+1. After reading some comments in Darksidesam's redose or not thread I am in doubt. Maybe some of you can give me advice: Should I up the initial dose and lower the second dose, do you think it's fine as it is, or..?
Thanks in advance
I had some 150mg pills (lab tested) and split them up into bombs of 3/4'ds and halves. I am planning on taking the first dose (around 112mg) at T and then the second dose (75mg) at T+1. After reading some comments in Darksidesam's redose or not thread I am in doubt. Maybe some of you can give me advice: Should I up the initial dose and lower the second dose, do you think it's fine as it is, or..?
Thanks in advance
Folley
Bluelighter
Thats a pretty high redose, you wont really need that much if you have a good starter dose. 112 is a bit low for the first dose, I would take it up to 125-150 at least
Personally I would do 150 at once, with another 50 or so after that
Personally I would do 150 at once, with another 50 or so after that
X-termi
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Thanks for that reply. I already made the bombs, so I would have to re-open them. I'm considering shifting some of the second dose to the initial, to make it 127mg and 60mg. Hope it won't get messy though: I don't have a scale, so I would have to lay out the powder in a long line and cut 20% away to put in the first bomb. Hmm. Wish me luck ;-).
By the way, I don't want to up that initial dose further than this: we want to enjoy the music at the event without being totally floored. We're looking for a nice clean rush without a big comedown mess afterwards...
By the way, I don't want to up that initial dose further than this: we want to enjoy the music at the event without being totally floored. We're looking for a nice clean rush without a big comedown mess afterwards...
Hi all, exactly one year ago i had a bad experience and took 3 pills on saturday, did not sleep (had a few twitches in bed) and then on sunday afternoon i had a lot (around 1 gram) of MD crystals in a short time (my mistake, i know, i had been out of the scene for a while and thought that 1 gram was like 1 pill), and that caused me having spasms and twitches for one month.
Now i am healthy and i don't have any visible consequence but i don't know if my bad experience left some sign so i am a bit scared now that I would like to roll again. I am 170cm tall and weigh 65kg. I have only one night, how much do you think i should dose?
I was thinking 150mg and then after one hour it came up, another 75mg and then possibly another 50 mg. Would this be too much?
Could piracetam help or would it just lower my tolerance and put me more at risk?
Cheers.
Now i am healthy and i don't have any visible consequence but i don't know if my bad experience left some sign so i am a bit scared now that I would like to roll again. I am 170cm tall and weigh 65kg. I have only one night, how much do you think i should dose?
I was thinking 150mg and then after one hour it came up, another 75mg and then possibly another 50 mg. Would this be too much?
Could piracetam help or would it just lower my tolerance and put me more at risk?
Cheers.
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The pills I have last 75-90mins really, I found I squeeze 2hours out of 1.3pills. I am guessing 1.5 is the right first dose, when should I do a redose of 0.5? 30mins after coming up? 60 mins? Not at all? Wait till i come down a bit then redose?
sounds like your pills are methylone, that stuffs always made me roll for just about an hour before i redose. do you have a test kit?
Yeah they test MDxx and they are defo X. I'm just not sure on the re-dosing. This is my last roll for a few months and the club opens really early like 9pm, so I kinda want to get a decent night of at least 4 hours rollin.
just for the record I'll state what Shulgin had to say
T0h= 1 - 2mg/kg bodyweight, taken in account male/female and the sort of experience to be expected.
T+1h= 0.5mg/kg bodyweight to increase peak OR
T+1h30= 0.5mg/kg bodyweight to lengthen the peak.
Happy rolling ! (and I always have an afterglow if I keep to these rules!)
T0h= 1 - 2mg/kg bodyweight, taken in account male/female and the sort of experience to be expected.
T+1h= 0.5mg/kg bodyweight to increase peak OR
T+1h30= 0.5mg/kg bodyweight to lengthen the peak.
Happy rolling ! (and I always have an afterglow if I keep to these rules!)
Can you explain the T+1h thing. What does the T stand for etc - when you come up?
t+1h means one hour after your initial dose
Thanks for that. OK I weight 108kilos (weight lifting, I'm one of those bruisers you see in the club), so by my calcs that means 1st dose is 108 x 2mg = 216mg. That seems quite a lot, I am thinking my pills are 100mgish so I'm thinking 1.5 pills. I did 1.3 pills the other week and I got a 2 hour blast.
Thereafter 0.5mg....that's around 54mg, so 1/2 a pill. Sound fine to me, 1 hour. I want to keep my usage low, so 2 pills/200mg total sounds good.
I will say this, I was in a great mood for 3 days after doing 1.3pills. Meanwhile I did 3 x 1 pill / 100mg a month before and I was dopamined out my eyeballs, couldn't be bothered doing anything. So there is a lot to be said for a single dose.
Did 1.5pills last night - I'd give this a lower estimate of 150mg and an upper estimate of 180mg. TBH, I hit a point briefly where my jaw was hangin and I was feeling really really off my head to the pt where I was thinking fuck I've ODed here. It subsided and I was ok, the whole roll lasted about 2 hours dead. I think in future, I'll stick around 1.25pills + 0.5 redose, not that I am a fan of redosing.
curioushat
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I know this is an old thread but I am having so much trouble rolling it is getting ridiculous. I'd taken several pills of unknown quantities various times with friends, them rolling hard and me with almost nothing. I chalked that up to a high tolerance. So I bought some 83% pure mdma, and yes I am a hundred percent sure of the quality. I wound up taking close to 400mgs the first night. While I felt fantastic no doubt it was obvious to me that it wasn't enough. Next time will be a few weeks and this is my plan
Start out by dosing. 300mg of mdma and 250mg of methylone. Now hopefully this does the trick but I'm not so sure. I don't intend on drinking but if the feeling isn't there, I'll redose in increments of 150/100 every half hour or so as necessary. I know this is a lot but I should be fine off the initial load and if it's too much, I won't redose.
What exactly should I worry about?
Start out by dosing. 300mg of mdma and 250mg of methylone. Now hopefully this does the trick but I'm not so sure. I don't intend on drinking but if the feeling isn't there, I'll redose in increments of 150/100 every half hour or so as necessary. I know this is a lot but I should be fine off the initial load and if it's too much, I won't redose.
What exactly should I worry about?
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Potty
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Any advice on my planned rolling schedule for a summer festival, 64kg male with low tolerance, 350mg molly (am told quite pure), may have a few (2-4) beers but nothing huge about 2 hours before I have the first cap.
I'm thinking:
T0h= eat 140mg cap
T+2.5h = eat 140mg cap
T+4.5h = snort 70mg
That means I get a booster within 1.5h of taking each cap and a quick boost at the end.
I'm thinking:
T0h= eat 140mg cap
T+2.5h = eat 140mg cap
T+4.5h = snort 70mg
That means I get a booster within 1.5h of taking each cap and a quick boost at the end.
Me and my girl plan on rolling this upcoming week but i'm wondering how we should dose.
i took 2 last week by myself like this:
T0h=ate 1 (~100-120mg (maybe more))
t+1h=ate 1
from this i had a GREAT night. eye wiggles and all.
Im not sure on what to do next week though. i want a similar peak, but i also would like it to be as long as possible. it is also my gf's "first" time rolling. she has took mdma once, but only like 80mg. i wouldnt really compare that to this dose.. thats why i say "first". i was thinking:
t0h=1.5 of the pills
t+1h(-30m)= other .5
how would this work out?? please help
i took 2 last week by myself like this:
T0h=ate 1 (~100-120mg (maybe more))
t+1h=ate 1
from this i had a GREAT night. eye wiggles and all.
Im not sure on what to do next week though. i want a similar peak, but i also would like it to be as long as possible. it is also my gf's "first" time rolling. she has took mdma once, but only like 80mg. i wouldnt really compare that to this dose.. thats why i say "first". i was thinking:
t0h=1.5 of the pills
t+1h(-30m)= other .5
how would this work out?? please help
patra
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Hey all - quick dosing & re-dose Q:
The more I've been reading through the threads, the more I'm confusing myself about the dosing I've been doing and what I plan to do on my next roll.
In the past, as per a friend's advice, I'd typically do half a pill (a whole pill usually being between 110-180mg MDMA) - so that would be anywhere from 55mg-90mg MDMA, and then an hour later (ie., 15-20 mins after the come-up) another half.
Most of the time this has worked fine for me, but when I compare that pattern to all I've been reading about Shulgin's recommended dosing alongside of the half-life advice, I'm starting to wonder if waiting an hour to do the 2nd half isn't a good idea.
Once I took a whole pill on my first dose rather than splitting the pill in half and it just happened that this roll wasn't the greatest - mainly because of set & setting (friends weren't all on the same level, some people uncomfortable, etc), so since then my friends and I have kept to the half now, half an hour later, to ease in to it and make sure we feel comfortable with what's going on. I suppose at first it felt like a nice safety precaution, too.
Now we've got some of the yellow/green ghosts (estimated spread between 160-180mg) and according to the fact that I'm pretty healthy, I wait 3 months minimum between rolls and all, and also my stats (w150, h 5'7") - the recommended dosage per Shulgin's book is around 115-120mg to start, then an additional booster of 30-40mg an hour and a half later.
Since I like to just take the pill (don't mess around with parachuting or any other methods) dividing it up in to 120mg and 40mg would be a little difficult... i'd have to somehow take around 3/4ths and leave a 4th - can be accomplished by splitting the halves in half, I suppose...
Any thoughts? Should I stick to what I've been doing before? My rolls always seemed lovely before, but if there's a way to really maximize the experience without really going overboard, I might try it.
Also... would it ruin the group-feel (I'll roll in a private home with a few other friends, and one newbie- I'll only give her half a pill) if I'm dosed slightly different than the others?
Any thoughts would be appreciated. I might just be over-thinking this, but I'd like to get an optimum experience & don't want to work my brain too heavy!
The more I've been reading through the threads, the more I'm confusing myself about the dosing I've been doing and what I plan to do on my next roll.
In the past, as per a friend's advice, I'd typically do half a pill (a whole pill usually being between 110-180mg MDMA) - so that would be anywhere from 55mg-90mg MDMA, and then an hour later (ie., 15-20 mins after the come-up) another half.
Most of the time this has worked fine for me, but when I compare that pattern to all I've been reading about Shulgin's recommended dosing alongside of the half-life advice, I'm starting to wonder if waiting an hour to do the 2nd half isn't a good idea.
Once I took a whole pill on my first dose rather than splitting the pill in half and it just happened that this roll wasn't the greatest - mainly because of set & setting (friends weren't all on the same level, some people uncomfortable, etc), so since then my friends and I have kept to the half now, half an hour later, to ease in to it and make sure we feel comfortable with what's going on. I suppose at first it felt like a nice safety precaution, too.
Now we've got some of the yellow/green ghosts (estimated spread between 160-180mg) and according to the fact that I'm pretty healthy, I wait 3 months minimum between rolls and all, and also my stats (w150, h 5'7") - the recommended dosage per Shulgin's book is around 115-120mg to start, then an additional booster of 30-40mg an hour and a half later.
Since I like to just take the pill (don't mess around with parachuting or any other methods) dividing it up in to 120mg and 40mg would be a little difficult... i'd have to somehow take around 3/4ths and leave a 4th - can be accomplished by splitting the halves in half, I suppose...
Any thoughts? Should I stick to what I've been doing before? My rolls always seemed lovely before, but if there's a way to really maximize the experience without really going overboard, I might try it.
Also... would it ruin the group-feel (I'll roll in a private home with a few other friends, and one newbie- I'll only give her half a pill) if I'm dosed slightly different than the others?
Any thoughts would be appreciated. I might just be over-thinking this, but I'd like to get an optimum experience & don't want to work my brain too heavy!
What is as an optimum experience for you, high energy for dancing or mellow and relaxed?
Set and setting makes a huge difference and is VERY important.
As far as MDMA goes, be sure to test your pills, it's good from a HR perspective and it sets your mind at ease. Your tolerance is low so one dosage of 160-180mg should be all you need
Set and setting makes a huge difference and is VERY important.
As far as MDMA goes, be sure to test your pills, it's good from a HR perspective and it sets your mind at ease. Your tolerance is low so one dosage of 160-180mg should be all you need
Jesusgreen
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I find in terms of redosing snorting works better than oral, but the stuff I had last was very pure and was rather easy on the nose - I've heard the browner stuff can be a real pain to snort, but I'm not sure as I've yet to try with it.
Initial dose of ~100mg + 15-25mg bumps throughout the night = :D
I managed to go an entire 24+ hours rolling with just ~300mg MDMA + 100mg 6-APB and a little IAP. Once you've got a good initial dose I find that snorting even extremely tiny doses can really boost you back up and keep you going a very long time.
Initial dose of ~100mg + 15-25mg bumps throughout the night = :D
I managed to go an entire 24+ hours rolling with just ~300mg MDMA + 100mg 6-APB and a little IAP. Once you've got a good initial dose I find that snorting even extremely tiny doses can really boost you back up and keep you going a very long time.