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A pharmacists job is to essentially safely dispense medications.

This involves catching doctors mistakes, fraud detection, making sure the medication is safe for the patient, whether it be a physiological problem or a scenario with multiple medications.

A hospital pharmacist has a slightly different role then somebody working at a store. There are some situations where a pharmacist must make clinical decisions directly relating to the patient in a hospital, often doctors rely on their advance knowledge of pharmacokinetics to prepare dosing regimes.

If that sounds interesting... it's a solid career and pays well... lots of study though.

No, you can't steal drugs though
 
no not even like that man. That was me a year ago. I would only be asking to

support an Oxy addiction. I'm just trying to get paid you know what i'm saying? I

just know a lot about medicine.
 
no not even like that man. That was me a year ago. I would only be asking to

support an Oxycodone addiction. I'm just trying to get paid you know what i'm saying?

And chubba, i know a lot about medication and can essentially dispense them safely. What are the qualifications to do so.

Let me just remind everybody that I AM NOT looking for input on this field to feed a drug addiction or to score free meds.

I am simply trying to figure out if it is a possibility at my level of knowledge to acquire a pharmacist position at a CVS, RiteAid, Walgreens... etc.

Does everybody who work in the pharmacy department at these type of stores have all there degrees and whatnot in order to be working there? If not then I

would like to know more about it.
 
And chubba, i know a lot about medication and can essentially dispense them safely. What are the qualifications to do so.
What's your current education.

Over here in Australia a Bachelor of Pharmacy is a 4 year degree, ranked 98 (I think only Veterinary Science and Dentistry are higher - 99)... you got to study the basic sciences of biology/chemistry (bit of maths too), then you got to learn human anatomy/physiology, learn a great deal of biochemistry and pathology... then finally you can start learning pharmacology.

This is in Aus, in the US pharmacy I believe is a graduate degree, meaning it's even a harder slog.

Unless you got a college education in a health related field, sorry, you do not know a lot about medication... and unless you got a degree in health field (pharmacy, medicine, podiatry, optometry, dentistry, vet science etc.) you can not dispense them safely.
 
you may think you know a lot about meds and you probably do ,

but in the US you are going to need a pharm degree which is a long school process and i am afraid that unless you are a very good student there is no way you are going to make it.

you might be able to find program to be a pharm tech but that will take some school also just not as much as you you will not be dispensing meds as a pharm tech

parm tech programs are available through trade schools

different pharm jobs have different education requirements

as i mentioned without extensive schooling you are not going to be put incharge of any kind of medicine dispensing
 
Pharmacy school is EXTREMELY difficult, almost as hard as Dentistry and Medicine.

There is A LOT more math (advanced levels of calculus), physics, and physical chemistry for pharmacy school.

Dentistry and Medicine are a bit lighter on the maths and physics, but their biology courses are really really advanced (were talking like virology, microbiology, hematology, lab work - its insanity the shit you gotta remember) and even harder than any level of physics or math you'd ever do.

Vet medicine is similar to dentistry and medicine.
 
well that blows. I hate math, science, and chemistry. I'm more of a english, litererature, history person.
 
you might be able to find program to be a pharm tech but that will take some school also just not as much as you you will not be dispensing meds as a pharm tech

parm tech programs are available through trade schools

Yeah, in some places you don't even need to be certified to be a pharm tech.

They're basically the guys who count pills.

You're not going to be able to steal any meds.
(Well, you can and it's quite easy, but that kind of stuff doesn't get discussed here.)

Entering the field just because you're interested in acquiring meds is stupid. It's much easier to get a different job and acquire your drugs like everyone else.
 
hi makaveli, i'm in the US and i'm studying to be a pharmacist.

2 years of undergraduate coursework is required before you can even apply to pharmacy school, i'm just about to complete that now. The coursework includes general chemistry, organic chemistry, biology, microbiology, physics, calculus (only 1 course of that), genetics, and some other misc courses depending on what school you apply to. Truthfully, they aren't that hard, but you do have to devote a lot of time to studying and you'll know it well.

The Pharmacy College Admissions Test, PCAT, is also something you have to score high on as it is becoming very competitive. It's very similar to the MCAT for med school, the only difference is the PCAT does not have a physics section. (Hoorah!) It has 5 sections: biology, chemistry, reading, math, and a writing section. From there the process of applying to pharmacy school is pretty much like applying to med school. You have to get recommendation letters from professors and pharmacists, have lots of volunteer and extracurricular activities throughout your academic career, go through an interview process with the schools that like your appication, blah blah blah, etc.

In the state where I live the average applicant to accepted student ratio is 7 to 1. so for every open spot at a pharmacy school, you have to compete with about 7 other applicants to get that spot. most schools in my state typically accept about 100-150 students each year. that means they get about 750 applicants a year but only admit 150. but that varies in different states. so it is definitely something you have to work towards to make yourself stand out above the rest and get noticed.

from there, pharmacy school is 4 years long. you cannot be a pharmacist without having your degree and being licensed, even if it's just working at cvs, walgreens, etc. the degree you will have will be your doctorate of pharmacy, or Pharm.D. Your first 2 years will usually be mostly coursework and lab work, with the last 2 years mostly being spent doing rotations in the field. You gain your license at the end of pharmacy school when you take the NAPLEX standardized test.

Yes it is a lot of hard work, but in my opinion the benefits and stability of that profession greatly outweigh the risks and amount of work involved in getting there. you'll have so many more opportunities than just working retail pharmacy though. my plan when i finally graduate is to get a standard high paying pharmacy job and use it to pay off all my loans for 5 years, then move on to working for a pharmaceutical company or something of that nature. I don't just want to count pills all my life, but the retail jobs pay so well it's perfect for new graduates to take those and use it to their benefit when just getting out of school. that's another thing about becoming a pharmacist, it's very expensive, like becoming a doctor, and most students graduate with a huge amount of debt to pay off. but it goes with the territory, and you just have to stay strong and keep going so you can get that high $$$ in the end to pay that shit off.

oh and also, i'm a pharmacy tech right now as well. i had to take the PTCB, Pharmacy Technician Certification Board test, but it was not hard at all. it was so easy, i didn't have to take any courses for it. you can get review books for all kinds of standardized tests at most book stores. i just got myself one of those, studied with it for a month, and i was good to go.

hope this helps.

EDIT: also i would like to add one other major difference between applying to pharmacy school and applying to other professional health schools is that you do not need to have your bachelors degree before applying. Med school, vet school, dental school all require you to have graduated with a bachelor's degree before you begin their program. pharmacy school only requires the 2 years of undergraduate coursework that they specify.

EDIT #2: you're only 19 and at the perfect age to begin the pharmacy school process. if you succeed you'll be rollin in the $$$ by your mid-20's. I got a late start, i'm 25 and just about to start applying now, my only regret is not making this career decision sooner. you should definitely give it some serious consideration my friend, since you said you have a good knowledge of medicine. do you like chemistry? because that's a large portion of what you'll be getting yourself into. Everyone says if you like and understand organic chemistry then you'll have no problem in pharm school. haha, i kinda feel like i'm trying to recruit you or something. i really am a strong advocate of the program, like i said, it's a big payoff for very little work in comparison to other things.

come on, join us on the other side. you know you want to. one of us.....one of us..... =D
 
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for the last fucking time. I do not want to be a pharmacist to steal meds. Pharm tech sounds interesting... They're the guy who counts the pills at CVS and bags

them up I am assuming. Thats the kind of job i'm looking for at this age. Any more

information on becomming a pharm tech? Whats the pay? Thanks for the long

response ether_synth i appreciate you spending time on a logical answer. I am

very interested in becomming a pharm tech now and maybe beginning a career in

that field. How much does it pay to be a pharm tech at a CVS or so? My major passion (if anybody cares) is to make music on the computer. mostly hip hop. im

planning on going to college for that and doing an internship for that. I feel like i'd stand out big time in that area. Pharm tech for now sounds great though.
 
I started a pharmacy degree many, many years ago and after the first year was qualified as a dispenser, but changed to biochemistry as I was more interested in how the human body works and not in how to be an overqualified, specialist shopkeeper (which is what most pharmacists end up as). You do a lot of stuff to do with preparation formulation, their physical chemistry and medicinal chemistry, even pharmacy law & ethics, but most pharmacists are actually overqualified shopkeepers.

Good pay, but hardly a career that will challenge you and keep you on your toes intellectually

(then again, different people, different goals)
 
Thankyou Ethyl

Please refer to my Pharmacy Technician thread if you have information about the pay, job availabilities, and whatnot.

And once again, thankyou Ethyl for responding with such a long answer to my questions it really helped me out. Unfortunately Science, Chem, and Organic Chem and Math have never been subjects that I have excelled in. I did do well in Biology thought.

For now I would like to focus on the possibility of becomming a pharmacy technician and perhaps learn enough working in that field to MAYBE go off to a 6 year college but like I said... Music is my major passion.
 
Medicinal Chemistry

Arghgaa... !!!!11

I will be doing a Bachelor of Science, which is pretty general first year...

but.. I'm pretty sure I want to get into med chem next year... (was quite fixated on physics at one point)


It sounds mad awesome..

Any bluelighters out here who've completed it/currently studying med chem? pharmacology? Biochemistry?

What are your thoughts, ideas on it? are you enjoying it? hard? How's the work field? pay rate?

cheers dewds !
 
I would also like to add that whoever the person who asked whether or not i Knew which job was I was looking for...

I want to be a pharm tech because im not ready for 6 years of college and near doctor like expense. dig?
 
can somebody also move this thread appropriately? But i also want it to stay here... so Copy and Paste the thing. Not Cut and Paste. Thankyou Moderators.


How do you become a moderator as well?


hahaha im asking too many questions. "how do i become a pharm tech Etc.."
 
To the OP: I am going to spoon feed you the information. I THINK the 51 hour college class below will explain what you have to do to be a Pharmacy Tech. I do NOT think the 51 hour class will result in your being licensed (as Pharm Tech)

Good Luck!
Willie

Wake County, North Carolina (USA)

waketech.edu Course # 15719.
INTRODUCTION TO PHARMACY TECHNICIAN PRACTICE:
"Those who want to be pharmacy technicians or who are new to this growing field may be interested in this course, which gives comprehensive informaaion on the roles of pharmacists and pharmacy technicians. Included are credentialing requirements, information about the national exam, pharmacy laws, ethical guidelines and dosage forms."

The above is copied from Wake Technical College Fall 2007 Catolog.
 
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delta_9 said:
I assume your in the US, right?
I believe to be a liscenced pharmacist in the US you must first complete a pre-pharmacy undergraduate program. I don't exactly know all the details, but a PCAT(Pharmacy College Admission Test) is also required at most colleges and schools of pharmacy.

edit : oh, sorry you already know about the pcat :P
You do not have to complete an undergraduate program in pre-pharmacy. Most schools will accept a science based bachelors degree.
 
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