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[MEGA]Community Growing advice, tips, tricks, & experiences Part 5 (2012-2013)

Sorry in advance for the length of this post. I have had the most ridiculously bad luck with bugs this year, had fucking thrips, leaf hoppers, whitefly, root aphids and now spider mites and some bloody caterpillars! You would think I had not spent a fortune on insecticide and other control measures for these fuckers!

I have a very serious problem in that, up until 2 or 3 weeks ago they were doing well, but between the root aphids (which a soil drench or two of azadirachtin seems to have under control fortunately!) and the spider mites I have had to defoliate the shit out of my plants. I was perhaps a little overzealous, the RA damage was causing some funky leaf discoloration that I was paranoid was leaves turning mouldy which had potential to then infect my buds with mould. Right now my plants don't have a helluva lot of healthy leaves left on them, and I am increasingly paranoid that the mites will finish off the remaining healthy leaves before the plants finish. I can't really chop them early, as this is for my personal consumption and early cut shit has a real tendency to make me anxious, which obviously I do not enjoy. These bastards have already cost me like half my yield and I am desperate not to lose any more!

I am hoping someone has some non insecticidal solutions for spider mites as my plants only have 1-3 weeks left I think and I really am not comfortable spraying anything on them. I have read spraying cold water helps but I am apprehensive to spray due to the risk of mold. I also read that a vacuum can suck them off the leaves, had a crack with my dust buster and it seems to be pulling very few, if any, off the leaves. Any suggestions here would be greatly appreciated!!!!!

Right now I am spending over an hour every day squishing as many of the fuckers as I can but I do not feel this is a very effective strategy.

Also, I was hoping to get some opinions on how close to ready my girls are, here are some pictures;

Plant #1
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Plant #2
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Plant #3
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I should mention I do have a 30x jewellers loupe, but I am finding it very difficult to differentiate between cloudy and clear trichome heads, I was pretty much planning on waiting until I had 5-10% amber trichomes but have read that not every strains trichomes turn amber.

TL;DR I am hoping someone can provide an estimate on how long my plants have left before they are ready to cut and also if anyone has any solutions for spider mites that do not involve the use of insecticide and preferably do not require me to spray any kind of liquid on my plants. I have put way too much time and effort into this to lose my stash this late in the game!
 
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^ Id spray them with azamax if it were me... Spray them about an hour before your lights come on... And keep fans blowing on them all day and i dont think mold will be an issue... They look liie they still have a month to go to me...
 
drug_mentor, have to ask, where did you get the tent for the plant.

As for the bugs, I would pick out the caterpillars the best you can, I had them last year, I just had to literally tear the buds apart to get inside and pull the caterpillars out.
As for the spidermites, my vacuum took off quite a bit of the 'webbing' they leave behind, I still sprayed the undersides of my leaves though with some neem oil, seemed to work pretty well, I'd manually apply it with a q'tip if you really wanted to avoid
getting it on the buds.

I know it sucks, trust me, AE had to convince me life was still worth living after I lost pretty much my whole crop.
 
It is not exactly a tent so much as a greenhouse, which I picked up from Bunnings Warehouse. I try and have my plants outside the greenhouse as much as possible since it blocks like 30-40% of the suns UV, the photo probably makes it look like it blocks out more but that was a really overcast day. We have had a fairly wet start to Autumn in my area this year so for the last month they have spent as much time in the greenhouse as they have outside, which I don't think has helped the bug situation.

To control spidermites I ended up manually picking/squishing them every day for a while, then picked up some isopropyl alcohol and manually applied this (diluted with water) to the undersides of the leaves most affected by spidermites, it seemed to control their numbers quite well, now the temperatures are dropping quite low and the humidity has been high for a couple weeks it really seems to have slowed them down.

Unfortunately I now do have some sort of black fungus/mould on one of my plants, I had a week of non stop rain where my plants couldn't leave the greenhouse and the humidity was generally 85-95%. I got a couple fans going in there but it obviously wasn't enough. I can't seem to find much on this fungus online, at the moment I am removing all the affected leaves I can and applying a diluted hydrogen peroxide solution to the affected stems, time will tell how effective this approach is. Luckily this mould does not seem to be affecting my buds yet.

I have to say I did not expect growing to be this much of a headache! I can't help but feel I have had some pretty dismal luck this year but I have certainly learned a number of valuable lessons in the meantime. I am hoping to get an indoor grow going through the colder months, fingers crossed if that happens I do not encounter so many problems.

Has anyone ever tried washing their buds after harvest? There isn't a heap of information on it out there but it seems the overwhelming majority of those who claim to try it swear by it, claiming it gives them nicer tasting and smoother tasting buds. It basically involves filling up 3 containers with water, the first one is room temp with a little baking soda and lemon juice, the second one is hot water and the third one cold water. You take each harvested bud that has been trimmed for fan leaves but not sugar leaves and dunk them in each container (in the order I listed them before) for about 30 seconds, moving the buds around while submerged to give them a nice clean. Afterwards you dry them for a few hours with a fan then cut off all the sugar leaves and hang them up to dry as normal.

I already figured I was going to have to employ this technique to clean up my buds just due to the bug problems I have been having, but now that I have a slight mold problem on at least one of my plants I am thinking it would be wise for me to employ a H202 bath on my buds at harvest time, after which I am pretty much as well to go the whole 9 yards and do the bud wash. I am very interested to hear anyones experience with either bud washing or H202 bathing their buds after harvest and whether they feel it has an impact on taste and/or potency.
 
drug_mentor I think you're referring to water curing.

Pros - smoother, less harsh feeling on the mouth and throat, less smell (can smoke in public even) and it gets rid of some contaminants.

Cons - you lose a huge part of the taste and smell (can be good or bad), the quality is not as good as traditional curing including potency and effect due to terpene content and other effects and it ruins the bag appeal.

In most circumstances it is a waste of perfectly good bud imho, but to be balanced in specific niche circumstances it definitely does have its place. Personally if I were trying to get rid of contaminants such as mould, bugs etc. I would use bubblebags if you can afford them or make hash some other way. By all means try the water curing and see what you think though, as some people are happy enough with the end result.

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About the bad luck, I think it happens to every grower eventually. Probably the vast majority end up throwing in towel after getting despondent and fed up, but the significant minority persevere, learn from their mistakes and become better growers. The next perfect crop will all be worth it and you'll be glad you moved past your bad experiences. I think it's fucking awful when it happens though - you lovingly spend months planning, tending and nursing your plants only for them to be messed up by disease, pests or mistakes. It's like losing a pet, it really is, but it's a fact of life you just have to deal with.

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About the Azamax used on red spider mites (RSM) , it contains one of the active substances present in neem oil, azadirachtin. I imagine it's probably somehow extracted from neem oil itself. I've never come across the product but I would be interested in how it smells and looks compared to cold pressed organic neem extract. Like Azamax, cold extracted neem extract doesn't involve the use of non-polar chemical solvents to extract the active pesticide phytochemicals. Azamax supposedly contains more than 100 limonoids from its 'special technology' so given this, and this is complete speculation by the way, but I am wondering whether or not it is just rebranded cold pressed neem extract? I probably am way off the mark but going by the description it definitely is a neem extract of sorts. Now of course this is not to say it's necessarily bad and I definitely haven't ever actually seen it before myself but perhaps someone that has can comment and shed some light?

Now if it where me, being in the situation of having to kill RSM on flowering plants is a tough one, but if you had the (albeit expensive) facilities, you could kill all the RSM by flooding the plants with CO2, essentially suffocating the RSM but leaving the plants unscathed. This done repeatedly will kill off any survivors and any eggs that subsequently hatch, but it's not within the grasp of most home growers unless they are already using a CO2 setup anyway. If it where me, I probably would try prevention right from the start (too little, too late I know). Simply spraying with a -mectin solution, like ivermectin on the undersides of the leaves occasionally will prevent them from ever taking hold and it's proven to be incredibly safe and effective. In a pinch I would spray the undersides of the leaves of the flowering plants using this, or take a paint brush and paint it on the undersides by hand, making sure a surfactant is added to cover the whole surface and prevent droplets from beading up. Since you could literally drink the solution of the abamectin concentration used, it would not pose any health risks whatsoever to humans, even if you sprayed the buds and smoked them, although I wouldn't suggest you do this! As an interesting fact, it is used in a much weaker concentrations to kill off parasites in humans as well as to kill of mites in pigeons. In fact, one cheap product containing ivermectin is made and marketed for pigeons, called Harker's Harkamectin and is amazingly cheap. It comes in tiny 5ml bottles so you don't need to pay for more than you need.

drug_mentor said:
Unfortunately I now do have some sort of black fungus/mould on one of my plants, I had a week of non stop rain where my plants couldn't leave the greenhouse and the humidity was generally 85-95%. I got a couple fans going in there but it obviously wasn't enough. I can't seem to find much on this fungus online, at the moment I am removing all the affected leaves I can and applying a diluted hydrogen peroxide solution to the affected stems, time will tell how effective this approach is. Luckily this mould does not seem to be affecting my buds yet.
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If you can post a decent pic I could try and diagnose the type of fungus for you and offer tips on how to manage it, if that's possible? If I where you I would carefully cut all the fungus away as this helps to stop it spreading. It's not always completely effective since the spores spread and germinate into surrounding tissue and plants, but quarantining your plant from the others could help to avoid it spreading to other plants if you can't halt the spread in the rest of the affected plant.
 
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AE I am not talking about water curing, if you google bud washing you will see exactly what I mean, I have no interest in water curing for the cons you describe. Bud washing doesn't seem to be a very well known thing at the moment but those who are doing it are raving about it. Honestly, I would have no interest in washing either if I did not have a significant bug problem and now a mould problem.

I have a product that is basically Azamax, called Eco Neem, it is azadirachtin extracted from neem and suspended in vegetable oil I believe. I am apprehensive to use this in late flower as many people say it leaves a bad taste and there are a few people out there claiming if they smoke weed that has been treated with azadirachtin it gives them all sorts of bad effects, I doubt I would be one of those sensitive people since I handle the stuff with no gloves and never had an issue, but better safe than sorry!

It is too late to quarantine, the fungus has definitely spread to my other plants to an extent, either that or it happened on them the same way as the first one without needing to spread, since they were all in pretty much identical conditions regarding the high humidity and bug damage. Truthfully, I don't know I could bring myself to quarantine it any way, as leaving it outside the greenhouse in the weather we have been having would almost certainly result in me losing all the smoke on it to bud rot and it is my biggest plant.

All this stuff is certainly demoralising but I am not going to let it prevent me from growing again. Even though there has been a lot of frustration I get a lot of enjoyment out of tending to my plants.

Here are some pictures of the mould, they aren't very good but it was the best I could get right now.
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The last photo is probably the best one, although most of the mould is not on the smaller leaves like that but on fan leaves and stems.
 
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justsayknow said:
Some time in early april for that chunky girl and possibly as late as may for the other one. Is that a sativa?
Sorry been away for a bit and got no plants left to post on here.
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You were spot on (albeit a broadish prediction), harvested the chunky one much earlier this month it's been dried and now curing and is frankly amazing. My buds (lol) agree that it's potent and dank. I'm LIT right now off my own weed.

Anyway the skinnier plant is starting to get chunky now she put on a lot of weight so to speak :), but say 80/20 white to red pistil tendrils so you may be right about the second one too, I'm also thinking mid May.

Peace
 
Stunted dwarf cannabis

My girlfriend jokingly started two cannabis seeds in the middle of November . The seeds were out of a bag of Mexican brick swag. I told her it was to cold and not enough sun light this time of year they will never grow .she puts them in the sunroom that reached freezing temp. A few times here in south Louisiana. Well the broke dirt and grew 4' and showed sex one male one female . I pulled the male and the female has budded . Since the time change I've thought the increased sunlight would make it start growing again . I'm not sure about anything . It's my first time growing and it's a stunted 4' plant with a 2' top bud. Its middle of april now .Maybe I should have kept the male and started a new strain of dwarf cannabis. Oh total natural a plant food sticks in pot and sunlight threw a south east facing sunroom.Any comments or suggestion welcome.
 
If you revert back to veggative light cycle, it will stop budding and start growing again (in most cases)
At one point i had to take clones from a budding plant and once they rooted and started up in soil,
the bud turned into a 30 branch node (like some kind of mutant) and the resulting plant was a 2 foot tall
3 foot wide BUSH.

Veg cycle -> 18 hours light (I opted for 24 hour light, but some say that plans grow better with some dark period)
Flowering -> 12 hours light

PM me if anything
-Good luck
 
Growing pics :D
I use
-vermifire soil
-GH organic nutrients

NSFW:

Blue dream, gdp, alien og (in week 5) cherry pie, grape ape, purple cadillac, platinum og. (transition)... I pull the pots inside at 7pm and back out at 7am :D
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GDP up close
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Indoor (vegging, just moved to 5gal pots from beer cups and small pots)
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And clones going outdoor in june
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Hey guys, sorry it's been a while.

Got all my plants outdoors, started most all (except 2) from seeds, unforutnaly, my only feminized Northern Lights #5 started to flower as soon as it started showing preflowers.
I don't understand why. I just saw it because I wanted to top the plant (or FIM, what ever happens, either way), and when I went to cut it, the plant had started flowering. I've started giving veg nutes, and the day light is increasing each day
(currently at about 14 1/2 hours of day light. Strange considering none of my other plants are even showing preflowers.
Unfortunately, AE, I believe the 5 seeds I planted all turned out to be male, the others started to show male preflowers. The two I still have , haven't shown male or female, but , with how tall they are and how old their are, I'm going to take a sad guess that they are male. I can't believe I haven't gotten one male out of that batch. Really depressing, I was so excited to try that strain. But, on another note, I do plan to keep 1 male plant in a pot, on the opposite side of the yard (maybe 150 feet away?) Will that be okay? Or will pollen blow that far in the wind and cause problems? If so, I may try to move it somewhere else, because I do want those genetics, the rate at which those plants are growing is incredible compared to my others. (I'm guessing that may also be the Sativa genes growing taller than Indica)

I will try to post some pictures soon, even though there's not much to look at , for the time being.
I have them outside. I dug each a hole that is about 3 - 4 feet deep and about 2 feet wide, maybe 16-18 feet long (This took forever, and was quite miserable considering our ground is pretty close to being concrete.)
I got quite a bit of soil, and added it in, half and half with the dirt mixing it up a bit.
I've been feeding them with Flora Nova - Veg nutrients. I was using Fox Farms, but I compared them side by side. They are both the same size bottle, but the Flora Nova weighs a pound more than the Fox Farms, I figured that was because all of the metals/nutrients in the mix, so I thought that might work better than Fox farms, We shall see. I've been keeping the water at 6.3-7.0 when feeding, but when I don't feed, I usually just give them water from the tap which comes out at about 9.0, Is that okay?

I was actually talking to a friend who's been growing for years, owns his own dispensary , and hydroponic shop, and he was telling me that watering plants with a pH of 9.0-9.3 is fine. I was always under the impression you want your water to be anywhere from 6.0-7.8 (give or take a few points either direction)

Thanks for the advice it is much appreciated.
And this year I'm growing some Pineapple X Blueberry, Green Crack, and Northern Lights #5, I was going to be growing Lebanase X Kumanoi , but alas, out of 5 seeds, Have only gotten males unfortunately. I still have space for one more plant in my garden (maybe 2 if I want to squeeze them in, but I was thinking I might put some rosemary, and garlic inbetween , or close to each of my plants to help repel insect naturally, and ideas? )
 
Sorry to hear that prelude.

Plants from cuttings usually will flower at 14 1/2h light per day outside. Was it a seedling plant or was it a cutting? If the former it shouldn't have, but if the latter then that's to be expected unfortunately. I would still wait to see if the two others are male just in case because it's a naturally leggy strain. At least you tried though and I'm grateful for that :)

If you take the pollen you can still use it to dust a good female and hopefully some of the good dominant traits will still show, so it's worth a shot - I would do it personally. The male 150 feet away may very well pollinate your females if you let it drop pollen outside. I would cut some of the male flowers before they drop their pollen, ditch the plants and put the male flowers in a cup of water indoors on a mirror under 12/12 light, with no air drafts from fans etc. Then collect the pollen that falls, placing in small containers with silica dessicant before placing in a fridge. As for the height, that's the kumaoni side showing. Despite the legginess it'll still finish in your climate with little to no mold. In fact it's a great outdoor strain you would love. I would be reticent to call it a sativa per say, because the flowering time would be closer to an indica but it retains the narrow leaf trait and the height.

I've never pH adjusted my water with soil and I always get excellent results so I don't think it's necessary personally, so you should be fine imho. The soil buffers the pH meaning tap water in all but the most extreme cases is fine. About smelly filler plants - why not try something like curry? If you want plants that look vaguely similar from a distance, bamboo works.

I've just started some orient express, nep jam and 5 female CBD Crew Nordle seeds. I'm also doing 10 reg KC Brains 36 and 4 fem female seeds purple maroc seeds. The next sativa I'm doing is going to be Ace Tikal. I am considering trying some panama seeds too.
 
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Just thought I'd get some hybrids from hell strains as well seeing as the reviews seem amazing and consistent. Seriously, it seems like everyone that grows any of their strains is impressed. So I think they're worth a shot!!

So I just bought their Leb27 v2 and their Hasplant 2.
 
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Hey hey!!! AE, you wont believe what happened. Well, as I said before I germinated all the seeds I had gotten from a good friend (You know who you are), and I've had them growing for about 5 - 6 weeks. All of my plants have started to show their sex lately.
Unfortunately, I believed that all of the plants from seeds (aside from my Feminized Northern Lights #5), turned out to show male sex.

Well, I pulled all the males, and got rid of them, the last male I pulled, was smaller than the rest. I ended up getting the damn thing two inches from my face and saw only one of the "balls" had two beautiful, absolutely gorgeous hairs coming out of it. So, alas , I freaked the fuck out, because this was the one strain I was really, REALLY excited to grow (Kumoni X Lebanese) . So, I got a glass of water, placed the plant that I had just torn out of the ground in the water while I got everything else situated. (Put what was left of the stem in rooting hormone, and placed it outside, in the soil, and misted it 3-4 times a day)

So, I cut off all the fan leaves, and left everything else (it was probably on it's 4th node, so , it had some branching, but I wanted to keep it, and they were too small to use as cuttings to clone.
Well, it's been 5 days, and I'm extremely happy to announce, it will pull through :)
I also have some Pineapple Blueberry , Green Crack, Northern Lights #5.
I have one of each (and one Kumonoi X Lebanese ) I also have a male Kumoni X Lebanese, that I plan to just harvest some pollen from before I kill it off.

Anywho, Sorry I haven't gotten pictures up lately, between work and school full time, and a girlfriend, I don't have nearly as much time as I used to.

AE, I'm excited to see these new strains you are growing :) , Hope they have strong genetics and do well for ya :) I'm sure in your hands though, any plant will thrive.

But yeah, that strain is just thriving in these conditions. I've messed with my females quite a bit, but I just potted the male and let it be , giving it less food and care than the females, and wow.... 1 month and the damn thing is 2 feet maybe 3 feet tall. Lmao.

I didn't think it could pollinate from that distance, damn, I'll have to cut it down or move it then. Thanks for the info AE :) much appreciated.
I promise to take pictures and post them soon. (I also found the insides to some type of pod, was hoping it could be identified if I posted a picture :P we shall see)

:) Can't wait to hear some updates from you all, :) Be safe all :) take care, I will be back soon with pictures :)

[Also, AE, that plant that flowered was from a seedling, which is why I was terribly confused, I figured it should do alright with 14 1/2 hours.
It's not FULLY flowering, but, its producing way too many leaves and branches, its short and stubby, not doing really much of anything, I'm just hoping it will go back to VEG soon, otherwise I wasted some beautiful genetics ]
 
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Hey Drug_Mentor, how is the crop coming along?
I know when stuff goes bad, it can seem like bad luck, but , like AE was saying, I don't think its necessarily bad luck as much as it is a learning curve.
I probably grew for 2-3 years without ANY type of harvest worth smoking from my buds.
So I would usually wash them off (as you are speaking about) with water as thoroughly as I can, and hang them to dry.
AE is certainly correct about the smell and taste. It probably won't have much smell, or taste when being smoked. But, it could also lead to a smoother hit. Who knows, I'd say if its all for personal use, then just water cure it.

I've been considering getting a green house, or some type of enclosure for my plants outdoors, but , being that in summer , temps usually hit anywhere from 110-120F , I'm not sure that would work all that well.
Who knows...

I've got some pictures, I'll end up uploading them to a site soon and posting them up for all of you!
 
you can use Mighty Wash up till the day you harvest, gotta hit them with it every day and spray them down-it worked for me...mites are hard to get rid of though once you get them you gotta stay on top of it, sorry to hear
 
I thought room temp. ^^


I couldn't find it in the rules... can we talk about breeders? Like I made a new thread bout dna/rp. Hope it wasn't supposed to go in here, or againt rules.

I've recently had to start evaporating tap water. Really bad tap can interfere, high chlorine etc..look up "The Rev's" water tips in skunk magazine. Tap water can be bad. I burnt a blue widow once not noticing my tap had changed and had very high chlorine levels.

U can evap tap water at room temp or higher. The boiling point is lower on chlorine than water. You'll see lots of little bubbles on the container the water is in.

Chlorimide and flourine on in urban tap some places too. These are very bad. Can't just evap em either. rev had a whole chart listedabout tap contaminents. And some places like LA have super high ppm and RO water is used.

Reverse osmosis water has very low ppm. But it has no cal/mag. Its best thing to use if u can. But can be tricky for noobs. Spring water has cal/mag and other trace minerals. This would be the bestchoice for someone who isn't experienced/educated about water differences. Imo.
 
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Prelude2TragedyII said:
Hey hey!!! AE, you wont believe what happened. Well, as I said before I germinated all the seeds I had gotten from a good friend (You know who you are), and I've had them growing for about 5 - 6 weeks. All of my plants have started to show their sex lately.
Unfortunately, I believed that all of the plants from seeds (aside from my Feminized Northern Lights #5), turned out to show male sex.

Well, I pulled all the males, and got rid of them, the last male I pulled, was smaller than the rest. I ended up getting the damn thing two inches from my face and saw only one of the "balls" had two beautiful, absolutely gorgeous hairs coming out of it. So, alas , I freaked the fuck out, because this was the one strain I was really, REALLY excited to grow (Kumoni X Lebanese) . So, I got a glass of water, placed the plant that I had just torn out of the ground in the water while I got everything else situated. (Put what was left of the stem in rooting hormone, and placed it outside, in the soil, and misted it 3-4 times a day)

So, I cut off all the fan leaves, and left everything else (it was probably on it's 4th node, so , it had some branching, but I wanted to keep it, and they were too small to use as cuttings to clone.
Well, it's been 5 days, and I'm extremely happy to announce, it will pull through :)
I also have some Pineapple Blueberry , Green Crack, Northern Lights #5.
I have one of each (and one Kumonoi X Lebanese ) I also have a male Kumoni X Lebanese, that I plan to just harvest some pollen from before I kill it off.

Anywho, Sorry I haven't gotten pictures up lately, between work and school full time, and a girlfriend, I don't have nearly as much time as I used to.

AE, I'm excited to see these new strains you are growing :) , Hope they have strong genetics and do well for ya :) I'm sure in your hands though, any plant will thrive.

But yeah, that strain is just thriving in these conditions. I've messed with my females quite a bit, but I just potted the male and let it be , giving it less food and care than the females, and wow.... 1 month and the damn thing is 2 feet maybe 3 feet tall. Lmao.

I didn't think it could pollinate from that distance, damn, I'll have to cut it down or move it then. Thanks for the info AE :) much appreciated.
I promise to take pictures and post them soon. (I also found the insides to some type of pod, was hoping it could be identified if I posted a picture :P we shall see)

:) Can't wait to hear some updates from you all, :) Be safe all :) take care, I will be back soon with pictures :)

[Also, AE, that plant that flowered was from a seedling, which is why I was terribly confused, I figured it should do alright with 14 1/2 hours.
It's not FULLY flowering, but, its producing way too many leaves and branches, its short and stubby, not doing really much of anything, I'm just hoping it will go back to VEG soon, otherwise I wasted some beautiful genetics ]
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Hey Prelude, sorry for not posting for a while, I've had problems with my internet connection but it's fixed now so I'm all set.

That's great news about the plant that turned out to be female. Good thinking trying to save it like that - you would be amazed at just what you can rescue! Cannabis really is a hardy plant that can put up with a lot of abuse flung at it.

Did you mange to get any pics yet? I'd love to see what it looks like. Remember, the plant is bred more for making hash, so I would strongly recommend not judging it as a strain until you've turned some of it into hash. The buds are completely smokable though, so don't get me wrong ;)
 
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