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[MEGA]Community Growing advice, tips, tricks, & experiences Part 4

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You have really tempted me AE... I will see what I can plan for the next season! IF I were to make a guerilla grow, would you recommend feminized seeds? The ET Super sour OG looks delicious, but I don't know if it would turn great outdoor.

Also, could I use any strains for outdoor or do I have to be picky? I'd like to try a strain which would be more suited as a "during the day" smoke.
 
^ I can't say I would necessarily recommend them over regular seeds. They are more convenient in certain circumstances, however often when space isn't such an issue like with a guerilla grow, it's just as easy to grow out a pack of regular seeds and just cull the males when they show their sex. The Super Sour OG wouldn't grow without becoming very mouldy in your climate. If I were you I would choose a better strain to grow outdoors that has been bred specifically for northern climates. Dutch Passion Frisian Dew, Female Seeds Purple Maroc and Female Seeds Easy Sativa are all good strains for this purpose. Also try the dirt cheap KC Brains KC33 and KC 36 since they are tried and tested outdoors strains that are unbelievably cheap (cheap doesn't always equal bad when it comes to seeds!). The Frisian Dew is somewhat of a legendary strain that pretty much everyone likes when they grow it, since it has a good high, flavour, yield and is relatively mould resistant.

If you can get a small greenhouse or a poly tunnel (which is cheaper) then you can grow strains you wouldn't be able to grow outherwise, since it effectively extends the season and protects against mould since it stops the rain from falling on the buds and keeps the plants warm for longer with the greenhouse effect.

I would also buy some autoflowering seeds to plant in addition to the normal non-autoflowering strains (don't rely on the autos solely for a harvest!) so that if all goes well you'll have a small harvest before the main one.

But to answer your question, no you cannot usually grow indoor strains outdoors since they haven't been bred for this purpose and will often become mouldy and will succumb to pests and diseases more easily. Conversely growing an outdoor strain indoors is not a good idea since you will run into problems like the plants becoming way to stretchy. Obviously there are exceptions to this but this is often the case unfortunately.

edit: I just wanted to add, if you can't afford a polytunnel or a greenhouse, I would strongly recommend getting four posts and putting a large sheet of corrugated transparent plastic on top so the plants placed underneath get protected from the rain as much as possible but still receive sunlight. A photo of the type of plastic is shown in the second photo and is available at most large DIY/hardware stores quite cheaply. You need to get the transparent type i.e. completely see through.

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Hmmmm I was thinking that Auto-Flowering meant "not-so-good" but damn that plant looks awesome! I doubt i'll try building a greenhouse if I plant far away from my place, but will put the transparent thing over my plants to keep them from getting too wet.

Also, if I decide to grow regular seeds, will I be able to do anything with the male plants before they start making pollen (i.e hash, bho, etc)?

Thanks again AE, you're really helpful. Thanks for sharing your experience!
 
^ those autos might be a bit misleading. In general they are not a good choice indoors but are a nice side show or novelty if you're going to be vegging for a while and have a spare spot in the corner.

Males are useless for smoking and making hash. Sure you might get something but they're not worth the hassle. The only thing they're good for is passing on their genes when breeding or making seed.
 
Arrgh, my LSF has come back with a vengence. Unfortunately I broke my small 50W aquarium pump and had to wait for a new one to arrive, which came yesterday, so I ended up not being able to brew up a batch of Plant Magic Essence until last night, meaning the LSF was allowed to go untreated for a while. Some of the bonsai plants in the tray look really vigorous and completely unaffected by the LSF so I'm going to label them as potential keepers since they have expressed a degree of resistance to the disease. Instead of spraying the plants, I just dipped the whole lot in the Essence, completely submerging them so it should hopefully stop it from getting worse.

I got myself a really heavy duty carbon steel garden fork to completely dig up next year's guerrilla spot. I need to get some wood so I can construct a raised bed. Raised beds are great because they heat up more than the native soil underneath and this means you can plant about two weeks earlier than you would be able to otherwise in spring. Especially if you tilt the thing so it's on a slight incline facing the south. That's a little trick I learned last year. So next April I'll be planting on under coke bottle cloches into 50/50 topsoil (loam)/peat moss or compost raised beds and will grow monsters. I'll also use just a small sprinkling of fertilizer and will use some actively aerated compost tea (AACT) well before planting time to get the beneficial soil bacteria to go crazy with growth. The mulch I use will be a really thick layer of cocoa shells which should seal the moisture in and reduce watering.

As for training next year I'm going to try a novel technique outlined in Robert C. Clarke's Marijuana botany, which involves training the plant along a fence positioned so that the plant is along one flat plane facing the south-east. I'm also going to experiment with other techniques as well. If I start them in April like I said then come harvest time the plants could be as tall as 15 feet high! I really want to try and avoid mould at harvest time as much as I can next year too. The choice of strains is very important for this. I'll be growing a couple of landrace strains from the himalayas where during their flowering period they have to endure almost non-stop rain, meaning they've been adapated to not become mouldy under these conditions, making them perfect for the UK. I'll also be trying PM Essence too, since it has a beneficial bateria that prevents botrytis mould supposedly. I'll make sure the top the plants quite a few number of times so that there are lots of smaller colas instead of one donkey-dick large one, which should mean they get more air exposed to them and will be less susceptible to mould, and even if one does succumb, the others might be fine.

The other strains I'm going to be doing are - Dutch Passion Frisian Dew, Female Seeds Purple Maroc, Female Seeds Easy Sativa (one of the only sativa leaning hybrids that is great for the UK climate and which yields really well), Dutch Passion Voodoo (if I can get the bloody seeds!), Female Seeds outdoor grapruit and a couple of others. I really want to try Dutch Passion Passion #1. I won't pop all the seeds from each pack though, to keep numbers more manageable and allow me to grow the same strains the next year without having to keep clones, however I will keep clones anyway in case I find a really good keeper that I want to grow the next year. The biggest mistake people make in growing most often is not taking a clone and finding when they've harvested it that it's the best weed they've ever smoked, only to realize they can never grow it again unless they rejuvinate it, which is hard, time-consuming and often not worth it.
 
By the way, if I can give a new grower one good piece of advice, that is never grow with anyone other than yourself. And more importantly, don't tell even your partner about it if you can avoid it (I appreciate that it can be hard). Relationships with boyfriends or girlfriends often don't last forever and often end up in messy split ups. If your girlfriend knows you grow and is the vindictive type, she may very well give the cops a nice little anonymous tip that they could use to bust your door down, scare you and your pets or children and basically trash your place and steal your stuff.

I broke my own rule and had a grow partner last season outdoors and at harvest time we trimmed the plants together and I spent quite a bit of effort, only to have my calls to ask about how the drying was going ignored. He basically stole the harvest for himself and is keeping some of my grow gear I left at his place, like an NFT system, reflector, drying racks etc. I kind of knew he might do something like that when he suggested that he would like to sell 1g bits of weed for the cost of an eights and other shady stuff. Never again will I trust anyone IRL, ever. The only person I can really trust is myself and I'll certainly be practising what I preach. It's just not worth it IMO. People can be really shitty and treat others like crap. I could never bring myself to fuck someone over like that, but not everyone takes the same view as me. It's a shame really that something as insignificant as a bit of weed can turn people dishonest. It shouldn't have to be like that. It kind of makes me lose faith in humanity when you get people being selfish like that.
 
growing info!!

what easily accessable nutrients and things can i do to help the growth of my baby. its dro, and its cold so i think it has a stunned growth, but i water it normally, just is there anything extra i could do?? btw its growing outside.
 
it cant be "Dro" if you water normally... Not to mention its outside.. No theirs not much i know of that you can do aside from more research.
 
scroll down on the first page in CD. there is a [MEGA] growing thread. with ALL the information you need.

next time, use the search engine before creating a new thread, to see if its been done before.

thanks
 
I was wondering what he meant by 'dro' but I found this definition online:
dro - hydroponically grown marijuana. ever since the term's introduction to the 11-13 year old demographic, every fucktard who's never touched weed feels an insatiable need to talk about how much dro they smoke

Unless he is referring to the name of a strain? Anyway I don't like spoonfeeding info too much so I'll leave it at that.
 
dro - hydroponically grown marijuana. Ever since the term's introduction to the 11-13 year old demographic, every fucktard who's never touched weed feels an insatiable need to talk about how much dro they smoke


^ lol
 
I just set up a very very mini indoor grow. its in some cardboard box at the moment but tomorrow I will migrate into a PC case.

The Strain is lowryder x kc33 from someone local. so i dont know how stable this strain is.
They were under pretty bad conditions the last week because this box has only been finished recently.
Still I am missing some better lightning and a concept for air circulation (the fan comes out of my PC at the moment)
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This is just a small test run really. I haven't put much in it but I am willing to expand ;). If i can handle this one atleast a bit (aka the plant doesnt die) im going to buy some northern ligts auto seeds i think. :'D
 
^ if you want a stealthy setup that will produce enough bud for personal use I'd look into converting a wardrobe since it's a bit hard to produce significant amounts of bud from a PC case. I don't mean to be critical of you but you might want to look into buying some seeds from a seedbank. KC33 is an outdoor strain that stretches like fuck (bad for indoor grows) and lowryder is really the first generation of autoflowering strains that don't compare well to the new ones available now. That hacked strain (I assume it's hacked) will probably not autoflower, just to let you know.

Sorry I don't mean to sound like I'm bashing your efforts but I just wanted to give you some tips. Hope you don't mind. Some people get a bit shirty when you try and help.
 
I'm aware of the possibilty of having phenotypes all over the place. Even if they're non autoflowering I'm satisfied if they don't just die. xD
 
Cuttings are way harder to get since they are not sent via mail unlike seeds and im not high enough in the hierarchy of weed to meet actualy growers :/ but next time its def. auto northern lights or just vegging a bit and then going outdoors
 
If I were in your situation I would get a taller growing space, like a wardrobe from a charity shop like the red cross ones and just grow the seeds in that. Once they've reached sexual maturity then use cuttings from then on like most growers do. Your seeds will probably stretch so much that they're too leggy to manage in such a short space, but you'll find that out eventually. It might very well even be too leggy for a normal grow space such as a tent or wardrobe. Good luck anyway.
 
Today I finally build made a home within the PC Case as it was planned originally. Looking at the plants they seem very much alive but they grow so tall withouth making much vegetative progress.

I credit this to the scarce lightning (25 watt + 40 watt normal household lamps). I already got 2 20watt energysaving lamps with 1200 lumen each but i bought the wrong socket for it :O. On the package there is an arrow to "86 Watts" next to the 20 Watts. Is that ment to be what the wattage must be if the bulb wasn't an energy saving one ?
One bulb is 6700k and the other 2700k but in lack of better lightning im just going to put in both at the same time without thinking about different lightning in different phases. In my situation lightning is lightning ;)

So next things up are: Getting those fucking sockets, do something horrible to a 9V electrical source to connect it to the (still) pc fan.

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I don't know if i am caring too much but thats just maybe the rush

Thanks for the tips artificial emotion. its a rushy job or sure and if i am going to settle down with this hobby bigger equipment is definately following ;)
 
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