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[MEGA]Community Growing advice, tips, tricks, & experiences Part 4

a revert bloom harvest takes at least 16 weeks...that's why nobody does it...it can take 4 - 6 weeks for a mature flowering plant to revert to vegetation....It's really not worth doing unless you're about to loose some genetics that you are really fond of...
 
The only way revegging would be worth it is if you leave it in a greenhouse during springtime. That way you can more or less forget about it for most of the time. If you hookup a rudimentary watering system like a tropf blumat irigation setup then you can just leave it for ages and by the time you come back in early summer it will have turned into a lovely plant in the vegetative stage. Indoors it would be a waste of growing space and electricity IMO.
 
sorry, been busy quite a bit. havent had much time to be at bluelight as I'd like to.
Haven't been able to show up here as often as I'd like.
Had to return the cable I bought for my camera . Ill take pictures with my cell phone tomorrow( hopefully I remember ). I ended up bringing the two plants outdoors indoor after spraying them before they flowered with Permethrin (I believe thats what it was. Ill check tomorrow.
We had our temperatures drop down to 43-45 one night , so I decided to bring them in after that , figuring that if there were insects on it they would be frozen to death. Do spider mites die off in cold temperatures as well? Or do mites would suffer in cold weather too?.

My plants are about 2-3 weeks into flower, they started off flowering,looking pretty odd looking outside. Since it is really cold, and the winter sun doesnt give much light I pretty much figured that they just weren't getting enough light and the temperatures weren't in range for the plants to grow properly,

Now its about 74 degrees in the grow room, and I am getting a new carbon filter to make sure no spider mites are in my closet when I start my Northern Lights grow. Im hoping to be able to clean out the closet very well to get rid of any spider mites/eggs or what ever other junk I have in there. (seems like theres always alot more dust in the grow room than any other room, by a long shot, that's not normal is it?)

Well, Ill try to get back on tomorrow, hope all is going well everyone.
(Ps, I tried revegging once and nothing ended up happening after 2 - 21/2 months, nothing moved, so I just decided to take remove it, Maybe I didnt wait long enough but wow, I was susprised no one leaves or weird leaves grew at all, buds stayed the same size too, odd. )
Going to bed now
 
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Prelude2TragedyII said:
sorry, been busy quite a bit. havent had much time to be at bluelight as I'd like to.
Haven't been able to show up here as often as I'd like.
Had to return the cable I bought for my camera . Ill take pictures with my cell phone tomorrow( hopefully I remember ). I ended up bringing the two plants outdoors indoor after spraying them before they flowered with Permethrin (I believe thats what it was. Ill check tomorrow.
We had our temperatures drop down to 43-45 one night , so I decided to bring them in after that , figuring that if there were insects on it they would be frozen to death. Do spider mites die off in cold temperatures as well? Or do mites would suffer in cold weather too?.

My plants are about 2-3 weeks into flower, they started off flowering,looking pretty odd looking outside. Since it is really cold, and the winter sun doesnt give much light I pretty much figured that they just weren't getting enough light and the temperatures weren't in range for the plants to grow properly,

Now its about 74 degrees in the grow room, and I am getting a new carbon filter to make sure no spider mites are in my closet when I start my Northern Lights grow. Im hoping to be able to clean out the closet very well to get rid of any spider mites/eggs or what ever other junk I have in there. (seems like theres always alot more dust in the grow room than any other room, by a long shot, that's not normal is it?)

Well, Ill try to get back on tomorrow, hope all is going well everyone.
(Ps, I tried revegging once and nothing ended up happening after 2 - 21/2 months, nothing moved, so I just decided to take remove it, Maybe I didnt wait long enough but wow, I was susprised no one leaves or weird leaves grew at all, buds stayed the same size too, odd. )
Going to bed now
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Hey Prelude, permethrin is okay to use on vegging plants but is an absolute no no on flowering plants since it's quite toxic. I really hope you didn't get any on the buds :( I believe the eggs can survive low temps. Dust is usually a good haven for mites so have a good clean out. You want to put a filter on the intake of your grow room rather than relying on the extraction CF. A good thing to use is something like womens stockings/tights - they always give me funny looks when I buy them for my grow.
 
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You're a brave man prelude. I get paranoid walking on or near people's lawns or gardens for fear of what might attach to my clothes. I always try and keep a few hours (and sometimes a change of clothes) between my being outside and going into the grow room.
 
A good way to minimise the transfer of pests into the grow room would be to get one of those long white lab coats that covers the whole body. If you've been out in the woods it would be a good idea to take precautions but I don't bother if I've just been outside in urban areas.

But really the best way to prevent pests from entering the grow area is to put either a makeshift filter (stockings) or a purpose made filter on the intake so that any air that enters the grow room has to pass through this filter. They really work well and should be used on every grow room if possible.

A good way to kill off spores to prevent problems like bud rot (botrytis) and powdery mildew or pythium is to either put a UV germicidal lamp inside the ducting which is very cheap yet very effective or an ozone generator inside which is also cheap if you buy from an online auction site. They work so well they can effectively eliminate any fungal problems whatsoever in many instances. I'm planning on going the ozone route myself. There are some dangers with ozone and UV germicidal lamps, but if the UV lamp device isn't opened you won't be exposed to the light and will be protected. If inside the ducting this gives an extra layer of protection. The ozone generator can also be turned off before entering the grow area and if you have negative pressure in the grow area, which you should have anyway, this prevents any contact with the ozone gas. They should be set up so that the concentration of ozone is never high enough to cause health issues anyway, especially with temporary, short-lived exposure.
 
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Would this setup work for growing a single plant?

I have a plant in a pot. It's been in there for about a week and it's basically sprouted and is growing leaves at the moment. This happened from just letting it sit in my window for about a week. Now, the growth has stopped, and I'd imagine that's because there's not enough sunlight. However this is what I came up with.

I have a 10-gallon glass tank. It's about 16" tall. I put black paper all around it so no light gets out, and I put tin foil inside of it (I don't know if this is even a good idea. Could this get TOO hot?) Anyways, I have a fluorescent light on the top of the tank (the tank was originally a fish tank, so it's attached to the top of it). I think the wattage is like... 40? I'm not too sure - I've never known a lot about lights haha but I can double check just to make sure... And I have a timer that automatically turns the light on/off every 12 hours.


Does this sound like a good idea? Is the tin foil a bad idea? I didn't think the light would be hot enough that's why I used it.
 
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Matte white is better than tin-foil. You need to use an 18/6 cycle to veg the plant, 12/12 is for flowering. If you're talking about a normal fluorescent light, then no, that's not good enough for growing weed. If you're talking about a CFL... then it's still not really good enough to grow weed. You really want a HPS bulb, maybe an MH, CFLs would do in a pinch but not wimpy little ones like that. That glass tank is going to get really hot with a decent light, and still air will lead to "dead zones" around the plant. You need to get some way of circulating air. Have a read through this thread and the past incarnations, maybe buy some books. No offence, it sounds like you have a lot to learn, and we ain't gonna spoonfeed you.
 
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Vader said:
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Matte white is better than tin-foil. You need to use an 18/6 cycle to veg the plant, 12/12 is for flowering. If you're talking about a normal fluorescent light, then no, that's not good enough for growing weed. If you're talking about a CFL... then it's still not really good enough to grow weed. Have a read through this thread and the past incarnations, maybe buy some books. No offence, it sounds like you have a lot to learn, and we ain't gonna spoonfeed you.
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Well I actually got this information from a friend of mine who has grown weed quite often... I actually borrowed his light. But yes, you're right - I do have a lot to learn, and if you read clearly I wasn't asking how to do it, I was asking if it was a good idea or not.

The 12/12 was actually a guesstimation, I was going to adjust it when I found the right amount of time.

And about the air circulation - would small fan be okay for that? In such a small area (a 10 gallon tank really isn't a lot) I'd be worried that the fan might even damage my plant.

But I do have a pretty small fan... It moves back & forth (whatever you call that), and isn't too powerful...
 
Your friend grows weed with a 40w fluorescent bulb? And gets good results? I'd love to hear his method. Don't get shirty, I want to help, but we aren't going to teach you everything from the ground up. As you described it, no, that's not a good idea for a grow. For a start, a plant grown from seed is going to get a lot taller than 16".
 
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Your friend grows weed with a 40w fluorescent bulb? And gets good results? I'd love to hear his method. Don't get shirty, I want to help, but we aren't going to teach you everything from the ground up. As you described it, no, that's not a good idea for a grow. For a start, a plant grown from seed is going to get a lot taller than 16".
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Sorry if I sounded like I was getting short with you, I didn't mean anything by that - I really appreciate your help. And I'm not too sure of his results as we live a fair distance apart so I don't see him often. He just said "it worked for me so it should work for you"

I'm thinking I might actually just ditch the tank idea and read up on other ways to do it.

So, this is actually the first time I've heard of HPS lights (I'm really new to this stuff, and I really don't wanna fuck it up :P)
And I did a few minutes of research and I found this: *snip* would something like that be worth while? Or is 150w going to toast my plants? What's a good wattage to look for?
 
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I'd ditch that tank. If you have a cupboard or wardrobe, you can set up a little grow in that. You need a fan that's going to pull out the hot air from inside the grow, not just move it around inside. You also need to get a decent light. Those are the most important things.
 
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I'd ditch that tank. If you have a cupboard or wardrobe, you can set up a little grow in that. You need a fan that's going to pull out the hot air from inside the grow, not just move it around inside. You also need to get a decent light. Those are the most important things.
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Okay great, thanks for the information I appreciate it. I think I have a pretty good understanding now... I have a decent amount of seeds so if I don't get it right the first time, I'll hopefully know what I did wrong and try again.
 
That setup is completely inadequate, but I think you understand that now. I would either buy a wardrobe or use a cupboard, as said, but if you want a pre-made grow area buy a grow tent. Are you aware of how much a whole setup will cost you? I'm not being funny or anything, but are you really serious about putting down a significant amount of money towards your grow? Do you live with your parents or roommates? Or do you live alone?

Have you considered doing an outdoor guerilla grow? What part of the world do you live in?
 
WR, I edited your link out, we don't allow sources for paraphenalia of any kind in CD. AE speaks the truth, if the job's worth doing, it's worth doing right.
 
Goodwill (stores) are your best bet for a wardrobe closet/entertainment cabinet w/ front doors...If you can fit this into your setup safely & privately you'll get tons of help on a small bountifull grow unit.
 
Warped, do you need to be stealth about your operation? If not I would research what is called vertical growing. You can get a lamp cord, with a socket for your bulb at the end which is cheaper than a reflective hood. This will need to be plugged into a ballast to power HID lighting. Basically you just hang the bulb down into the grow area. The light will be thrown differently than if it were hung horizontally but since it's your first time you won't have to worry about any adaptation from horizontal growing.

If I were ever going to try and do a setup I would do it this way as it seems to be the most cheap, simple, and if your plant is trained correctly, effecient way of growing. Most people just have a small honeywell fan sitting under the bulb, gently blowing up at the bulb to create a slow moving column of heated air (which rises naturally as well) to be extracted via ducting and an inline fan to help control temps in the environment.

If you don't have to be stealth your environment could be something as simple as plastic framed around some 2x4s to create a light tight grow space. There are also grow tents you can buy as well but if you're just trying your hand at it there are much cheaper ways.

Just remember, there are many, many, many ways to do this and most of it depends on what you have to work with. From watching my friends do their thing it seems that the best way to learn is to fail. :D
 
You need to be extracting outdoors. My grow for example swallows up about 10L/day and that's just the start. That water has to go somewhere, and it is through the plants' transpiration stream and into the air in your house. After a couple of months of no ventilation with a grow indoors you'll first start to notice mould and then eventually you could start getting sick and your property could suffer more serious damage. Of course it depends on how many plants you have and what size they are etc. but you need good ventilation from the start. The intake can be from the nice warm air from the indoors.
 
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