[MEGA]Community Growing advice, tips, tricks, & experiences Part 4

[xxsicknessxx]

Really the most important question is how to know when these plants are ready to cut. Out door. 8 weeks old. Clearly sativa. There coming along they look like they need to fill out more. is 2 weeks more safe? should I stop feeding them plant food (miracle grow bloom) and just give them water? is it a good idea to spray them with neem oil one last time seeing how they have very clear bug damage (its contained to the lower parts of the plants) any thoughts?

 

[papa]

sativas have a longer bloom period than indicas or their hybrids....12 - 14 weeks is not unheard of..

 

[xxsicknessxx]

well ok i remember that when half the hairs turn brown its ready, or when bananas apear its ready... true? or what do I look for. I remember what to look for but I never did out door and don't want to miss something..

Should i feed them for the last 2 weeks out doors plant food like bloom?

spray them with neem oil?

there at 9weeks now filling out good not growing taller.. I figuer 2 weeks cut them? or let them go untill I think there ready.. can I trust my gut i only know hydro.

 

[papa]

look at the resin glands with a magnifier..clear is early, cloudy is mature, amber to brown is late..

 

[xxsicknessxx]

dont got one, cant afford one. im just helping a buddy out...

New question for out door med size plant 1gallon a plant cool.

 

[papa]

no.. 3 gall minimum or you'll be watering it 3 times a day...

 

[EmptyProductions]

Blue Dream crossed with OG kush harvest - My best harvest yet. 200 grams

Total amount harvested was between 6-7 ounces, around 200 grams. All from one plant. Here are some good pictures.

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Ill just give the links for the rest of the pics http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9397/dsci0894z.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7835/dsci0895.jpg - Peanut butter cookie edibles made with cannabutter that was made with 3 ounces of trim.

 

[Prelude2TragedyII]

Hey guys, sorry I haven't been around very often lately , surgery didn't go over too well, Still bleeding in the stomach...
Harvested a few days ago (1 plant, got around an ounce, smoked most of it, I have pictures of it all , just need to upload them.
Nice looking weed btw Empty Productions.
I ended up getting 2 clones, idk if I mentioned this before or not, but both are True O.G. , one is only putting out leafs with 1 blade, not 5 or 7, the other plant seems to be fine, showing 5-7 blades on the leaf.

Was kind of curious , both of these plants are ready to flower (I've been taking them in at night because I didn't want them to flower when they were so small), its mid October, temps are around 65-70 during the day 50-65 at night, And it starts to frost around mid November/December. Was wondering if 45 days would be enough time for them to flower outdoors, or would it not be worth it due to the temperatures?

I have the option to grow indoors if I want, but I was hoping to clean out my grow room to start growing the Northern Lights #5 Femmed seeds.

Any ideas or opinions on what to do with the two mature plants?Should I just plant them in the back yard and see what happens, or put them in a 5 gallon container so I can move them into the garage when it starts to get below freezing outdoors.(I currently have them in 3 gallon containers)...

Im going to germinate my seeds tomorrow (Ill have them in temps around 78-85 degrees constantly, that's not too hot is it? (Ill try to get some more pics)

I was kind of disappointed at my harvest, but, I wasn't really there to care for the plants as often as I would've liked to be due to being hospitalized.

Hope everything is growing well for everyone.
Thanks for the help , I do appreciate it.
Hope everyone is doing alright.
Ill post back with some pictures (I promise) tomorrow afternoon/evening. (4am, time for sleep)

And I've also got one more question that just came to mind, I have a carbon filter which has a cotton type material pre-filter, I was wondering if spider-mites might latch on to that and hang around, seems every time I put a plant in the closet it starts having serious mite problems, and Ive taken everything out, vacuumed, even went so far as to wipe the walls down. I just cant seem to get rid of these damn bugs. I spray them, nothing happens, if anything does, they slow down for a day and are right back where they were to begin (lost an entire plant to spider-mites this season, really pissed me off as it had ALOT of weight, now its just going to be cooked in butter (I don't know if I should even do that)
Anyways , thanks for the opinions and help, it's greatly appreciated.

 

[Prelude2TragedyII]

Electricity prices are getting silly nowadays too. In the last few weeks I think it's costing me almost 20% more for my electricity in fact. It's nuts! That's why next year I'm really going to go for it with the guerilla growing. The plan is to buy about 10 of those cheap Fertile Fibre brand coir bales that expand in water and dig it into the soil after the whole area has been sprayed with glyphosate weedkiller. The problem is trying to find a secluded, open west facing area with good soil. I'm sure I'll be able to find something if I can get someone to drive me around for a day (I'm not allowed to drive myself).

Yeah, Our bill went from 530 to 835 this month. and thats with the lights only on 12/12 , not 18/6 or 20/4, really is kind of irritating, at first 18/6 and along with all of the other electricity our bill was 450-500, now its just ridiculous. My doctor owns a house about 300sq ft bigger than the one I'm living in, and his bill was 1200, its really crazy.

Should i feed them for the last 2 weeks out doors plant food like bloom?

Well, I dont know about hydro, but for soil, usually the last week or two you want to flush the plant and give it just straight water to remove the nutrients so your not inhaling that (from what I understand, I could be incorrect but Im pretty sure)

 

[Vader]

Yeah, Our bill went from 530 to 835 this month. and thats with the lights only on 12/12 , not 18/6 or 20/4, really is kind of irritating, at first 18/6 and along with all of the other electricity our bill was 450-500, now its just ridiculous. My doctor owns a house about 300sq ft bigger than the one I'm living in, and his bill was 1200, its really crazy.

Do you have them on in the day or at night?

 

[Prelude2TragedyII]

The two clones. (these pictures are all about 2 weeks old, the clones are about 1 1/2 feet now. The one plant with single blade leafs is really bushing up, I was thinking it looks ready, Not sure on the other, who knows.)

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I currently have them out during the day, and take them in at night to prevent them from flowering.
Should I just put them in the ground and let them flower and tough it out, or should I just grow them in my grow room and put off germinating my seeds.
(Or, what I kind of want to do, just put them in 5 gal containers, and let them flower outdoors anyways , and just put them in the garage during the night so they don't get damaged by the frost around the beginning of December)



- I let this plant go for quite a long time, I love it, it didn't start to show bud rot, and about 60-70% of the trichs are amber,
Ill try to post some pics of the weed from the harvest if any is left by tomorrow, lol.

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Not a whole lot of yield, this was the plant that didn't get attacked by spider mites, just a caterpillar towards the bottom (those bastards) And a grasshopper near the same area, though I didn't see much damage near where it was, I killed it any who, as I know they eat crops, any crop really , so far as Ive heard anyways.

(considering one of my plants was really killed by spider mites. Webbing all in between the leaves and buds to the point I don't think its good for smoking, is it safe to use to cook, should I do anything to it first? Is there anyway of cleaning this crap outta the bud? before cooking it into butter)

Sorry I didn't Hide the pictures to click for viewing, this layout is new to me (haven't been able to use it much yet), I either forgot how or it's a different process. Anywho.
Thanks again for the advice.
Hope all is going well, AE, Chainer, Papasomni. I appreciate all the help and support you've provided me.
Same goes for you Vader, I know we started off on the wrong page buy I really do appreciate the help and work you've put into helping the Forum. Thank you, all of you.


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And does anyone know why electricity is going up so much.?
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Sorry Vader, read the question wrong first time around thought u were asking about my plants.
I have the lights on for 12 hours at night currently, then I place my plants outside when I wake up (so they were getting 20/4 with the added 12 hours of sun. Ive left them outside for 2 days now, I'm assuming there's no going back, lol, so I'm guessing its between 5 gal containers outside or just growing it indoors....Well guess I could just put them in the ground, what happens when weed gets in temps below 31 degrees at night? Im assuming it causes damage.

 

[Artificial Emotion]

The two clones. (these pictures are all about 2 weeks old, the clones are about 1 1/2 feet now. The one plant with single blade leafs is really bushing up, I was thinking it looks ready, Not sure on the other, who knows.)

NSFW:

I currently have them out during the day, and take them in at night to prevent them from flowering.
Should I just put them in the ground and let them flower and tough it out, or should I just grow them in my grow room and put off germinating my seeds.
(Or, what I kind of want to do, just put them in 5 gal containers, and let them flower outdoors anyways , and just put them in the garage during the night so they don't get damaged by the frost around the beginning of December)



- I let this plant go for quite a long time, I love it, it didn't start to show bud rot, and about 60-70% of the trichs are amber,
Ill try to post some pics of the weed from the harvest if any is left by tomorrow, lol.

NSFW:

Not a whole lot of yield, this was the plant that didn't get attacked by spider mites, just a caterpillar towards the bottom (those bastards) And a grasshopper near the same area, though I didn't see much damage near where it was, I killed it any who, as I know they eat crops, any crop really , so far as Ive heard anyways.

(considering one of my plants was really killed by spider mites. Webbing all in between the leaves and buds to the point I don't think its good for smoking, is it safe to use to cook, should I do anything to it first? Is there anyway of cleaning this crap outta the bud? before cooking it into butter)

Sorry I didn't Hide the pictures to click for viewing, this layout is new to me (haven't been able to use it much yet), I either forgot how or it's a different process. Anywho.
Thanks again for the advice.
Hope all is going well, AE, Chainer, Papasomni. I appreciate all the help and support you've provided me.
Same goes for you Vader, I know we started off on the wrong page buy I really do appreciate the help and work you've put into helping the Forum. Thank you, all of you.


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And does anyone know why electricity is going up so much.?
-Edit again lol-
Sorry Vader, read the question wrong first time around thought u were asking about my plants.
I have the lights on for 12 hours at night currently, then I place my plants outside when I wake up (so they were getting 20/4 with the added 12 hours of sun. Ive left them outside for 2 days now, I'm assuming there's no going back, lol, so I'm guessing its between 5 gal containers outside or just growing it indoors....Well guess I could just put them in the ground, what happens when weed gets in temps below 31 degrees at night? Im assuming it causes damage.

Assuming True OG can take up to 9-10 weeks to flower, putting it outdoors isn't such a good idea at the moment IMO, espcially since it'll get very cold soon (and is already quite cold at night). If you want to try and risk it you'll need a small plastic greenhouse (the cheapo type with a transparent plastic cover that zips open and closed. I thinkk you would benefit from a decent greenhouse at some stage anyway, since as well as being stealthy you would benefit from one greatly in terms of being able to start early and finish later as well as increasing your yield dramatically.

I would also get horticultural fleece (something more growers should take advantage of) and cover it at night. Using either or preferrably both of these techniques will allow you to possibly finish it off safely. What latitude do you live at again?

As for the spidermite infested plant, what I would recommend doing is instead of using it for bud, I would either watercure it or make BHO or isohash from it. If you could post a pic of how extensive the damage is I'd be able to help more.

 

[junkie skumbag]

hey people im in a little bit of a pickle I have my plants on 12/12 at the moment and they are no way near ready. Still infested with these fucking gnats or what ever they are!But there defently dieing off and plants dont look too bad.Small but they got nice buds on em
anyways I have 3 Green-o-matic autoflowering seeds and 3 unknown (apprently very good) seeds germinated and have put them in seed raising mix tonight.Once they sprout should i leave them outdoors (perfect weather for growing weed here atm)until I've ripped the shitty plants i got riight now cleaned out my grow room and changed the lights back up to 20/4.OR since i have a autoflowering strain would it do any harm putting the 3 in with my budding plants that are on 12/12 for a little bit (2-5 weeks) and then gradually turn the light up to 20/4 or even 24 once the other plants are out of there?
Or should i just rip these plants up make oil out of em or what ever and put my new plants in there all at once on the right light cycle?
Also with autoflowering strains ( i have no expirence growing them ) whats the best light cycle for them?Also since they bud when there quite young when should i begin using my veg ferts and when should i begin using my flower ferts? (i have canna A and B for both veg and flower and im buying monsta bud)Also when is it safe to begin them on ferts?

Thanks in advanced

and prelude i hope you get better fast mate :D internal bleeding fuuuuuun

 

[Artificial Emotion]

hey people im in a little bit of a pickle I have my plants on 12/12 at the moment and they are no way near ready. Still infested with these fucking gnats or what ever they are!But there defently dieing off and plants dont look too bad.Small but they got nice buds on em
anyways I have 3 Green-o-matic autoflowering seeds and 3 unknown (apprently very good) seeds germinated and have put them in seed raising mix tonight.Once they sprout should i leave them outdoors (perfect weather for growing weed here atm)until I've ripped the shitty plants i got riight now cleaned out my grow room and changed the lights back up to 20/4.OR since i have a autoflowering strain would it do any harm putting the 3 in with my budding plants that are on 12/12 for a little bit (2-5 weeks) and then gradually turn the light up to 20/4 or even 24 once the other plants are out of there?
Or should i just rip these plants up make oil out of em or what ever and put my new plants in there all at once on the right light cycle?
Also with autoflowering strains ( i have no expirence growing them ) whats the best light cycle for them?Also since they bud when there quite young when should i begin using my veg ferts and when should i begin using my flower ferts? (i have canna A and B for both veg and flower and im buying monsta bud)Also when is it safe to begin them on ferts?

Thanks in advanced

and prelude i hope you get better fast mate :D internal bleeding fuuuuuun

Isn't that canna a & b not organic or for soil? Ideally you should be using a fert made for soil, unless I'm mistaken about the nutrient you're using.

Autoflowering plants can flower under any light cycle, so having them under 12/12 shouldn't be a problem. I would recommend using 18/6 from start to finish for maximum yield whilst minimising electricity bills though. I wouldn't use the veg fertilizer unless you're using a lightmix or sowing and cutting compost as it should contain enough nutrients for a good part of the growing period. Use the bloom fertilizer as soon as the buds start to form and increase as they pack on weight gradually. If before this period the leaves show a nutrient deficiency of sorts, use small amounts of the grow fertilizer, but be sure to use it sparingly since less is more and more is less.

 

[junkie skumbag]

Isn't that canna a & b not organic or for soil? Ideally you should be using a fert made for soil, unless I'm mistaken about the nutrient you're using.

Autoflowering plants can flower under any light cycle, so having them under 12/12 shouldn't be a problem. I would recommend using 18/6 from start to finish for maximum yield whilst minimising electricity bills though. I wouldn't use the veg fertilizer unless you're using a lightmix or sowing and cutting compost as it should contain enough nutrients for a good part of the growing period. Use the bloom fertilizer as soon as the buds start to form and increase as they pack on weight gradually. If before this period the leaves show a nutrient deficiency of sorts, use small amounts of the grow fertilizer, but be sure to use it sparingly since less is more and more is less.

Nah im pretty sure it can be used in soil the bloke in the store said it could.Hey man quick question.I want to dilute some of the canna flora A and B with water into a spray is that a a good idea?or will it burn my plants?Also at what raito? thanks heaps mate your a ledgend!!

EDIT: what about my non auto flowering strain?????????? need a rply asap as im doing it now

 

[Prelude2TragedyII]

Latitude 36.3

Uh oh..lol, well, since the plants are outdoors and I have my lights set to be on at night 8pm-8am, wouldn't that stress out the plants? Or would I be able to just bring them in on a night cycle and give them 24 hours of dark then start 12/12.
I'd rather try to get something out of these plants rather than just leave them outside if they won't do to well, its a little late in the season to even be harvesting here anyways.

Going to take some pics of the weed I did keep from the Northern Lights plant I harvested.
I'll try to put them up tomorrow or Tuesday.

I'll also try to get pics of the bud with spidermite webbing all over it, Im pretty sure the bud rot or what looks to be bud rot will be find for cooking, its still partly and mostly green, just dry and brown in some places, doesn't fall apart like bud rot does though, who knows, its going to get cooked anyways.
I just hope that bud isn't too far destroyed ( just left it in 2 paper bags in the garage and let it dry and aired it out a few times)
The webbing is just, wow...Didn't know there could be so many mites in one area. Anyway, Ive made ISO has before, seems to usually be pretty low quality hash wise though. Ive never made butane hash though, heard its pretty good, but you also need quite a bit of weight (I've prob got a little less than 1/2-3/4 ounce for Hash (the webbing weed), and about 3/4 ounce for cooking. When cooking cannabutter, can rinsing the weed(or is it soaking the weed in water) release some of the Chlorophyll from the leafs so that the butter doesn't have such a plant like taste.

Also

And as for the spider mite raped weed, when I get a pic in, let me know if It would be save to pick out the webbing and rinse then cannabutter it, or if I should just ISO/Butane it.
Thanks for the help, I appreciate it Vader .

Hope everything is going well for you all.

 

[Artificial Emotion]

Nah im pretty sure it can be used in soil the bloke in the store said it could.Hey man quick question.I want to dilute some of the canna flora A and B with water into a spray is that a a good idea?or will it burn my plants?Also at what raito? thanks heaps mate your a ledgend!!

EDIT: what about my non auto flowering strain?????????? need a rply asap as im doing it now

Just to add to the reply I sent to the PM, yes it could burn the plant if it's not extremely diluted, but again, the plant should really be fed through it's roots. If you've got a specific nutrient deficiency, like a calcium deficiency, then feeding it foliarly with an epsoms salt spray under the leaves can quickly sort out the problem, but I wouldn't recommend feeding it regularly that way, since salts can build up on the leaves and block the stomata and cause other problems.

Latitude 36.3

Uh oh..lol, well, since the plants are outdoors and I have my lights set to be on at night 8pm-8am, wouldn't that stress out the plants? Or would I be able to just bring them in on a night cycle and give them 24 hours of dark then start 12/12.
I'd rather try to get something out of these plants rather than just leave them outside if they won't do to well, its a little late in the season to even be harvesting here anyways.

Going to take some pics of the weed I did keep from the Northern Lights plant I harvested.
I'll try to put them up tomorrow or Tuesday.

I'll also try to get pics of the bud with spidermite webbing all over it, Im pretty sure the bud rot or what looks to be bud rot will be find for cooking, its still partly and mostly green, just dry and brown in some places, doesn't fall apart like bud rot does though, who knows, its going to get cooked anyways.
I just hope that bud isn't too far destroyed ( just left it in 2 paper bags in the garage and let it dry and aired it out a few times)
The webbing is just, wow...Didn't know there could be so many mites in one area. Anyway, Ive made ISO has before, seems to usually be pretty low quality hash wise though. Ive never made butane hash though, heard its pretty good, but you also need quite a bit of weight (I've prob got a little less than 1/2-3/4 ounce for Hash (the webbing weed), and about 3/4 ounce for cooking. When cooking cannabutter, can rinsing the weed(or is it soaking the weed in water) release some of the Chlorophyll from the leafs so that the butter doesn't have such a plant like taste.

Also

And as for the spider mite raped weed, when I get a pic in, let me know if It would be save to pick out the webbing and rinse then cannabutter it, or if I should just ISO/Butane it.
Thanks for the help, I appreciate it Vader .

Hope everything is going well for you all.

Sure you could take them outside during the day if you wanted to whilst the weather is still good outdoors, but the risk of brining in pests and diseases where they would multiply rapidly would be high and if there are other plants they would get infected. That's why whenever you bring in a plant from the outdoors you should quarantine it for 2-3 weeks before moving to your main growing area. I would be really careful about eating bud that's been infected with disease or pests since they can be vectors for other more harmful diseases. I wouldn't do it.

The only way to get rid of chlorophyll is by curing the bud, so rinsing it wouldn't do anything to it afaik.
Also, I've just been looking at the soil in your photo and it looks a bit rough, with those big chunks. Do you not sieve your soil at all? If not I would suggest doing so as it can really help root growth.

 

[Prelude2TragedyII]

Eh, the top soil looks pretty bad because alot of dirt rocks/sand got in the soil because when I would put them outside, I'd usually put the pots under dirt because they are black and would bake the roots if they sat in the sun. I've never sieved the soil though, I usually make sure it's as loose as I can get it before putting any plants in it.

So I shouldn't make butter out of it...Just hash?
That sucks...Never really have been a fan of hash. Never did much for me. All 10 times Ive tried it, all from different people (not including the 2 times I made it)

 

[Vader]

Maybe you could make oil then use that to make butter?

 

[Damien]

I'd just make butter with it. You probably won't get any webs after you strain everything. Even if you didn't though I doubt eating webs or mites will be harmful especially after being baked or cooked. People eat chocolate covered bugs you know? I mean, they pay for them. Don't worry about it man, just a little extra protein (that's if they make it through the straining).