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Pets MEGA Cats VS Dogs - POLL!

The Big Question - Cat v's Dog

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what a sad situation this is. I love my dogs and I would be devestated to have to face a decision like you are facing. My old dad used to say that once a dog has tasted human blood, he is ruined. and in those days, that meant that he was going to get a bullet to the head. I don't think such drastic action is the right solution in this case. But, I do agree with those who say that the dog must go. I'm so sorry for you to have to go through this.

........papa
 
The place I adopted him from, had all males (5 in all) in a large cage together. I do not know the exact age of him, but by the size of him and his brothers at the store, they are all smaller in size still, so I am assuming he is young. So because he grew up and is already use to living with other males, would it still be a mistake to get another male? Even if I wait another 2-3 weeks before i brought another in?
 
happyus said:
i'm sorry but your dog punctured your daughter's skull and she needed brain surgery. what part of this sentence makes you think it's okay to keep the dog and child in the same house??

a) you are being selfish and putting your daughter's health and safety at risk by keeping the dog. she needed brain surgery ffs... when i was a baby my brothers dog attacked me and burst my tummy button open, luckily i was mended fine and could come out of hospital relatively quickly, as soon as my mother's back was turned the dog tryed to get out of the kitchen and back at me again. my parents did the safe and sensible thing and gave the dog to a couple with no children.

b) you're being selfish by suggesting that it's okay to take the now house dog and segregate him from the rest of the family. if this is a jealousy issue between the dog and child then this will only further re-inforce that the child has taken his spot..... you can't explain to the dog the reasoning behind what you are doing it will only see that it is being shunned for no good reason whilst the child gets free run of the house.

imo this situation is a no brainer, the dog has to go, i would not even have the dog in the house when the child gets back from hospital....i mean really all this was going on with your child and you come on bl to ask for our opinion with what to do with the DOG??? i just don't get it.
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Agreed, i can't believe your procrastinating about this ali. By the time your child gets out of the hospital the dog must be gone.

If he is moved outside he will resent her more, she will be in more danger, and you cannot effectively keep them apart at all time over the next years.

If the dog attacks her again i seriously think you could be prosecuted for failing to protect her, for not addressing a known risk.
 
^you obviously have never tried to find a home for a dog. it does not happen quickly. it takes time.

i just contacted another rescue and they told me they will not take a dog that has bitten anyone, especially a child. so, that option is out the door.

i am taking him to the vet tomorrow and i will ask her advice. hopefully she has some....
 
Ummm... if a dog has bitten a child, then they shouldn't be rehomed.

Simple as.

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Sorry, I feel for you. I really do.
 
spork said:
I know my parents' first cat was incredibly jealous of me when I came along. He wouldn't allow me to come near him without swiping at me. I almost always had scratch marks from him and I would cry to my mom because Louie didn't like me. He never did come around either...
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^ Weird! I use to have a cat named Louie when I was a little girl. He didn't like me either and I had a ton of scratches all the time because I wanted to play with him.


First of all, you have my sympathies. Secondly, heck yes a vet will euthanize your dog if they have bitten your child. It's a matter of public safety really. I fourth fifth and sixth everyone who has said you HAVE to find a different home for this dog. Whether that home be in the sky, 2 hours away or down the block. There are also no-kill animal shelters. Have you talked to them? I, like everyone else, don't want to sound harsh but for being a self-described analytical person you're not really acting like such. This is a liability that you cannot risk. Good luck. <3
 
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called the vet to ask about euthanizing him and they said they will not put him down for one bite. and that no other vet would.

looks like i'm running into a lot of walls here.

i do not feel comfortable giving him away because if he bit someone else, even an adult, i would be to blame.

his vet it a animal behavioural specialist. maybe she will have some new ideas.
 
i also contacted the ASPCA by email and this was the response i got:


We strongly recommend that you commit to working with your dog's behavior issues rather than give him up. To put it bluntly, in a shelter setting, a large 6-year-old dog with a biting issue is unlikely to be adopted. Please consider saving his life by getting him the help he needs to be a healthy member of your family again.

We urge you to make an appointment with a Certified Applied Animal Behaviorist (CAAB), a veterinary behaviorist (Dip ACVB) or a Certified Pet Dog Trainer (CPDT). Please call The Association of Pet Dog Trainers at (800) PET-DOGS for a referral to someone in your area who can help.

Best of luck to all of you,
-The ASPCA
 
alicat72 said:
called the vet to ask about euthanizing him and they said they will not put him down for one bite. and that no other vet would.

looks like i'm running into a lot of walls here.

i do not feel comfortable giving him away because if he bit someone else, even an adult, i would be to blame.

his vet it a animal behavioural specialist. maybe she will have some new ideas.
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i really don't understand why you are so hellbent on putting the dog down. yes, some of us, including myself, threw that out there as a possible option, but that was more or less if behavior couldn't change or you couldn't find a home for the dog.

if your vet and the SPCA recommended taking him to training, then take him to training. it'll be time that you and your dog get to spend together, and you will both learn more about one another.
 
i'm not hellbent on putting him down. it's the last possibilty. i was stating that because it came up in my conversation with the vet.

i'm starting to think i should have never asked on this forum. we should make a poll and have the options be put him down or keep him in the yard or behavioural training. i'm not serious about that, but it seems that everyone posting here has a very strong opinion about what should happen. thats fine really.

like i said earlier, i'm hitting a wall with every option i explore....hopfully something will eventually work....
 
^ You might at least be able to get advice if you write him or his specialists (Im assuming he has people working for him who know how to answer tough questions). They also might have recommendations for rehabilitation for the dog if something is wrong with him, or where you can get a good home for him if you want to give him away.
 
Gaian Planes said:
totally agree. I could shoot even my most loved dog if it hurt my (hypothetical) child. I only imagine that this would be stronger once I actually have a child.

There's no comparison between a dog and a child. None.

That said. I don't think its necessary to put this dog down. Try to find a good home for it (childless obviously).
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Same here.
 
alicat72 said:
i'm not hellbent on putting him down. it's the last possibilty. i was stating that because it came up in my conversation with the vet.

i'm starting to think i should have never asked on this forum. we should make a poll and have the options be put him down or keep him in the yard or behavioural training. i'm not serious about that, but it seems that everyone posting here has a very strong opinion about what should happen. thats fine really.

like i said earlier, i'm hitting a wall with every option i explore....hopfully something will eventually work....
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alicat, BL really is a great resource for advice. I for one appreciate your candor and the fact that you brought this up in a mature and dignified way. I've noticed that parenting and child safety is just one of those facets of humanity that no one is lukewarm or neutral about.

I'm really shocked that the ASPCA didn't have better suggestions for you than that, but I guess it's because their mission is to keep animals out of shelters.

Although Fausty isn't around too much these days, I think if you were to drop him a PM he may have some suggestions for you. The dog whisperer guy seems worth looking into as well.

I know this is not an easy decision for you. Is your daughter home yet?
 
getreal said:
I wouldn't have to think twice, (as painful as it would be) to the decision I'd make.
Your daughters safety comes first.

Sorry if it sounds harsh but I would NOT be willing to take another chance.
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Same here. My dog bit my child when she was a baby... nothing as severe as your kid though, and I kept my dog separated. They never saw each other again, and I knew the reason my dog bit her was because she was deaf and blind and my kiddo spooked her.

But if my dog, or any dog, caused injuries like what happened to your kid, I would put the dog down. It might hurt like crazy but that is NOT okay. Your kid could have died. I know its a shitty situation, but who's life is more important? I am not saying your dog is a bad dog and deserves to die... because its not. Sometimes dogs do really stupid and horrible things and don't mean to hurt others, but, you can beat a dog off of you. A baby can't. Imagine if this happened again..... ya know? :(
 
Alicat, something else occurred to me. There is the potential, if the dog bites again but this time it is another parent's child, or an adult visitor, you have the potential for a lawsuit on your hands. Do you have homeowner's or renter's insurance coverage? I sure do hope so.
 
Rogue Robot said:
i really don't understand why you are so hellbent on putting the dog down. yes, some of us, including myself, threw that out there as a possible option, but that was more or less if behavior couldn't change or you couldn't find a home for the dog.

if your vet and the SPCA recommended taking him to training, then take him to training. it'll be time that you and your dog get to spend together, and you will both learn more about one another.
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The real question is why is anyone - other than alicat72 - so hellbent on saving this dog when it was a vicious attack that could have killed a kid, there are a million dogs out there looking for homes who haven't attacked anyone before, and there is no way to ensure that this dog won't attack a child again??

This dog is precious to his owner. He's not precious to anyone else! People, stop trying to save this dog for the dog's sake. Only think of alicat72, and more importantly, her child, and just as importantly, other children who will come into contact with this dog.

People here are probably worrying about this dog while munching on a hamburger.
 
Johnny1 said:
The real question is why is anyone - other than alicat72 - so hellbent on saving this dog when it was a vicious attack that could have killed a kid, there are a million dogs out there looking for homes who haven't attacked anyone before, and there is no way to ensure that this dog won't attack a child again??

This dog is precious to his owner. He's not precious to anyone else! People, stop trying to save this dog for the dog's sake. Only think of alicat72, and more importantly, her child, and just as importantly, other children who will come into contact with this dog.

People here are probably worrying about this dog while munching on a hamburger.
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don't get me wrong, i'm taking this situation very seriously as becoming a breeder myself and having a mentor in a "bully" breed. there is obviously a behavior issue here with the dog. dogs don't just bite a person or a child for no good reason unless there IS an underlying issue with the dog. dogs aren't as disposable as some people are making them out to be. as someone who intends on never having children, my dogs and cats are my children. so to hear someone say to euthanize the dog, it's a bit irritating. there are solutions to this situation and problem, and euthanizing the animal should be a last resort.
 
People are concerned about protecting the dog because there is no reason to kill it. Yes, I eat meat, but it was necessary to kill the cow in order to serve a purpose. Were it possible to eat meat without killing the cow, I would advocate preserving the cow's life as well. Since it's entirely possible to keep the child safe without killing the dog, there isn't any reason to kill the dog.

If your only justification for killing the dog is that it makes the child a little safer, why not advocate killing all the dogs in the neighborhood? Or for that matter, all the dogs in the state, the country, the world? It would certainly make children safe from dog attacks.

It's possible to think of both the dog and the child. I think that's a better alternative to thinking about only the child.
 
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