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Well, Ive been keeping it down to 81-82, hit 84 earlier today.
As of right now its 84.4 F, 26% humidity.
Plant is looking pretty nice, but all its putting out is three leaves, Im guessing the conditions I have for these genetics aren't all that great, well, I did only have 100 watts on it, put 250 yesterday and its been pushing out sets of leaves much quicker, hopefully we get some 7-9 or even 11 leaves like last time...haha
 
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Plant 2, which is still in the closet, got a bit warm today, 88 in my closet, for a few hours.

As for the plant with the deformity, I've left it out side, after I flushed it, the plant turned a bit yellow, I put so much water in the pot that the plant shifted places, lol. But, I believe it's putting out its first set of regular, healthy foliage. I was thinking of keeping that plant outside, but the temps are very hot, 90-105.
I have the plant in the shade, but I dont know if that would be sufficient enough or not.
Guess we will see.
Ill take some pics of the other plant today or tomorrow (I clipped off most of the deformed leaves.)
 
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Baby is lookin good :D

The other is still outdoor, put out its first set of normal leaves and is working on pushing out the second(probably by tomorrow)
I believe Im going to just cut the rest of the odd looking leaves off of the outdoor plant so it can focus on it's newer, non-deranged leaves.
But, I dont know if it's going to make it outside, I have it in partial shade, and sometimes fullshade through out the day, though it's still too hot for that outdoor plant.
All of its leaves are Stretching upwards towards the sky, due to heat.

Don't know what else to do/try....

But as for the indoor plant, it's doing great.
I currently have 225-250 watts of daylight CFLS on this plant.
Temperature ranges from 77-86(88 if I dont have any proper fan in, fan out[circulation])
With lights on , or off, its still the same temp really, I think it's because it's so damn hot here, and its going to do nothing but get Hotter...BLAHH

Anyways, thanks all for the advice, Anyone still keeping up with these? Should I continue to post pics or just , keep them in a folder on my comp?(lol, I like looking at the pictures from day one to now, with alll the plants I've grown, crazy to see it grow up in 30 slides, haha.)
 
Also, it has been a week since I suggested trying nutrients, I think Im going to wait a bit longer for the indoor plant, would it be alright to start giving my indoor plant nutrients within the next week or so?
Or does it look like it should wait longer?

I tried giving nutes to the plant that is outdoors and looking pretty bad, figured if its gonna die, it might as well die with all of its nutrients in hand...lol...
Guess Ill see how that turns out tomorrow, and then Ill know if my plants need nutes or not.
 
are the leaves starting to yellow?....the stems purple?....those are signs that nutrients are needed..
 
My outdoor plant leaves were starting to yellow yesterday or the day before, not sure if it was due to heat or too much water from the flush, but , I gave some nutes, looks alot better today, but the temp is also cooler out today. so , Its leaves aren't all pointing upward.

As for the indoor plant, well, the leaves arent all yellow, ofcourse theres new vegitation thats bright green, I just figured giving nutes might help speed growth a little, but ,Ill wait.

No purple stems, haven't seen much of that anyway, I know last time it was always when the shade leaves were falling off, that one stem would be a little purple, but thats about it, Hopefully all I see is GREEN and...Maybe some Turqoise and Other pretty bud colors. ha
 
what strain are you growing?....some strains that have been bred indoors won't do very well outdoors.....I tried to grow some jack herrer outdoors....it gets pretty hot here in south texas.....needless to say, it didn't do well at all.
 
Northern Lights, Its not looking too good outdoors, the one indoor is thriving though, the outdoor plant has started produce good leaves though, its on its 3rd node, I believe, but, its working on pushing out 2 more leaves that look normal, only problem Im seeing is that part of the leaves are yellowing a little bit, and it CANT be because of nutes or salt because I flushed that with gallons upon gallons of water, I know that its not over watered as of right now because it gets moist about 3-4 inches down, and I mix it up so it drys.

The plant has yellow spots, in the middle of leaves , well, spreat out all over the leaves, but they are yellow marks on the plant, is that need for nutes, over watering? over heat?
 
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indoor/outdoor.
Dont k now whats wrong with outdoor, putting out good leaves now, but yellow spotting ,

well, anyways, 6 am, off to bed.
 
at the younger stages, plants will display symptoms much quicker than they do when they get older....usually, they clear the problem and go on....I think it is part of the developmental process....a little problem will raise its head, the plant will fight it off...and go on from there....coincidentally, my grow is displaying the same symptoms as yours right now....random yellow spots in the center areas of the leaves....all other factors are in acceptable ranges, so I'm not going to take any action....they are young, I'm getting ready to move them under the 1000 watt HPS anyway. Sometimes, when I move them under the big light, they get a burst of energy and their immune system strengthens and they clear whatever minor problems they are having at the time...

That is usually the case in all my grows.....some little problems will appear and then they clear up. I'm not saying don't be alarmed...because there are some problems that, once the symptoms appear, its too late...those kinds of fatal problems are rare...
 
Well, thankfully, I dont think it will be fatal, as it is starting to branch out at the bottom of the stem, if you can see it in the pic(sorry its not too clear, camera phone, blah)
Anyway, Ive been keeping it in the shade a little more, been doing what I can, I think it should be fine, even though it still is a little bit off.

My other plant seems to be okay though, I just dont know when I should start nuting it, the other day it yellowed, but I watered it and its green,lol, I think the plant takes different colors when I have the light on, as , I believe some of the light penetrates the leaves making them a brighter color then when the lights would be off...idk. maybe im crazy lol.

But thanks for that info, Ive gotta find somewhere healthy I can put this plant so It can grow somewhere other than my back yard, as its obvious what it is now, and the people I live with juuussstt might catch on to what that plant is.


Also, thanks for the info pap, appreciate it. along with everyone else who has put input here, its much appreciated, hopefully my second grow will be much better, and much quicker than the last. lol

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lol, temps hit 92 today, the plant didnt show any major signs of heat stress which suprised me. Its leaves weren't praying or pointing to the sky, though they were raised a small ammount, Im wondering if the plant is getting used to these temperatures? Or would that takes a few generations of that plant to get a plant used to heat?
 
Hey man, good thread.. I read it from start to finish a week or so ago, so bummed when you found out that beauty (after all the problems you were having) turned out to be male.. Freakin crying shame.

I also remember you having pH issues, pH was to high, if i remember correctly. I am lazy so I'm not going to reread the whole thing but you used lemon juice mixed with water to correct this? My plants are not quite 2 weeks old and looking terrible (one especially). How did lemon water work for you? I think I remember you having to reapply quite often. Did you just water them with the mix or foliar feed/spray bottle?

Not trying to hyjack your thread man, just figured you could give me some real world experience to go off of. I've read the faq and plant problems sections of like five different growing sites, most of them dont give good methods of fixing the problem and the others just say 'pH down'. I am all organic so pH down doesnt work for me.

Also, if you are interested in a pretty good site devoted entirely to growing pm me. Its smaller than icmag or rollitup and deals exclusively in growing, unlike the others where growing is more of a side forum.

Keep it up, I check this thread daily.
 
a trick you can use if you only grow one or two plants outside in your yard.....go and buy some silk flowers and cut off some of the smaller blooms with a short pirece of their stem and attach them to the branches of your plant.....just a few will do the trick...up near the top so they can be seen at a glance.....as soon as someone sees the flower, they won't pay anymore attention to it.....don't make it look too exotic though. that might re-stir their interests.
 
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a trick you can use if you only grow one or two plants outside in your yard.....go and buy some silk flowers and cut off some of the smaller blooms with a short pirece of their stem and attach them to the branches of your plant.....just a few will do the trick...up near the top so they can be seen at a glance.....as soon as someone sees the flower, they won't pay anymore attention to it.....don't make it look too exotic though. that might re-stir their interests.
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papa, that's brilliant. I appreciate all the knowledge you've dropped in this thread, and your ability to take it on the chin when it wasn't necessarily appreciated. OP is lucky to have someone like you helping him with every step.
 
Sorry I didnt get back to you sooner, but yes, what I would have to do with the lemon juice is just mix it in with my water until I got the ph I wanted (usually 6.0-6.5, because at the time my 7.5-8.0 )

I would usually apply every other feed or every 3rd feed, Id just mix the lemon juice in with the water, and the nutrients, and water . didnt spray it or anything.

And Ill keep posting up pics, PM me if you need some more info on that lemon juice and or what not, I know I wasn't to descriptive. lol


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and ... yeah....
I know Carl. I apologized when i get pissed off, I just , get irritated hearing the same thing , when , Ive been trying to explain that Im saving money to do the things that everyone is suggesting , hps, mh, venting, cooling, etc.
and when I say Im saving the money, and Im going to do that stuff, and someone comes in and says I wont be able to grow well without it?When I had just finished a grow that wasn't all that bad. I found it offensive. I know this is way off topic, but, Im just experiementing, and Im sure when i get hps, it will go buy much faster, and Ill probably get much better results, but until then, Ive got what Ive got. And I appreciate the advice that I've been given, very very much, as ALOT of it has helped. I mean, look at how much better this second grow started compared to the first, alot faster, had my soil mediums right this time, and yeah, thats because everyone, had been helping.

Pap, I appreciate all the info, and do take your advice. Sorry I took that advice at the time as offensive rather than just looking at it as help. Anyways, Off topic, sorry, just wanted to get that out of the way, kinda felt attcked there a little.
Im lucky to have had everyone posting in here who has.
Thank you to ALL of you.
 
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PIIT2, the post had absolutely nothing to do with you, other than the obvious fact that you are the primary benefactor of papa's great experience in this thread.

Now, you're doing your PH wrong... lemon juice or not.

You need to use PH adjusted water every time you water them. It's not enough to do it just once in a while. PH problems will still occur if you feed with 7.5-8.0 on some days, and 6 other days.
Second, when you make a nutrient solution, you want to ph the entire solution, after it's been mixed, not just the water that goes into it. PH'ing the water before adding nutrients doesn't do anything to control the ph, since the nutrients will throw that off.

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awwwwww.........hey don't worry about it.....it was my fault.......sometimes, I word things the wrong way. its tough to express yourself with just text....and its hard to watch someone go through all the agony that I had gone through just because they wanted to try to do things different than I do after I learned the lessons that they are about to learn....I hope that makes sense....anyway,...upwards and onwards.....looking forward to the bloom....and don't be too disapointed if the outdoor doesn't make it.....I think northern lights is an indoor breed. you can find out if you look in a seed catalog. It will tell you if it will grow indoors or out...
 
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