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Medication and not being able to trip

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I'm sick of not being able to trip ....well I have somewhat of a plan but if I'm on depakote mood stabilizer risperdal and hydroxyzine 5ht2a antagonist what is the best way is going off my meds to trip because I'm way stable enough to trip just need advice or someplace other than bluelight to help me out in this situation to trip on lsd that is I've done it before like 10 times just when I wasn't on meds got 3 good hits of blotter and am ready to do this......anyone can help?
 
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Do not go off your meds, seriously. It's not safe to stop taking them without psychiatric supervision. And indeed, they are the reason you can trip. You say you are stable enough? Well then your therapist will recognize it and help you wane off the medication safely. We are not a substitute for mental health care professionals!

This is not just an unpractical situation. You need to realize that the reasons for having to take all those medications are the exact same reason why psychedelics can be quite dangerous to your mental health.

Sorry it has to be like this, I don't want to be harsh but the reality just is I'm afraid. My reality is that I will soon be weaning off benzo's and go through hell with them and review my entire drug use and abuse. It will suck ass but it has to be done. There's things I will have to give up.

Oh and just something I wanna ask of you for future reference on the forum, and others as well: people please don't start a thread title with half a sentence, then completing the sentence in the opening post. It's annoying to keep a proper overview of thread topics that way.
 
Your meds are most likely the reason why you feel good enough to trip. Stopping them will bring back whatever caused you to get on them in the first place full force, or worse due to effects of the withdrawal. If this is not the case, and you have legitimately reached a state of psychological health that doing so would be possible, your psychiatrist/physician will be more than happy to help you taper off your medicines safely (under no circumstances should you suddenly stop your medication without professional supervision).

Secondly, even if you did stop, tripping would not be advisable, as psychedelic use is contraindicated with the kinds of conditions that would require you to use stuff like valproic acid and risperidone.

The only advice we can give you is to not do it. It's just not worth the risks man.
 
I second what others have said. If you stop the medication your neurochemistry will have to adjust to that sharp absence, even causing some withdrawl effects. Then you want to trip in the middle of that? Sounds like a recipe for some brain scrambling, right there.

Don't do it... but if you have your heart set on it, then at least wean yourself off the medication slowly and see how you feel. Doing it all at once is going to cause you big problems.
 
I must say that, that is great advice right there........it might not be what you want to hear, but that's life sometimes. It can't always be fun, it's also got to suck sometimes, right?

Listen, you sound like your in a hurry "aw, man, I just gotta trip now, maaaan, I said NOW etc etc." I mean, that's how I read your post anyway. I see this sometimes here in bluelight. Some people ( I think often young people) are just so much in a hurry like they think they are missing out on something. "Hurry up, I need advice NOW, I HAVE to trip rigt NAO1111 heeeelp" But hey, you've got your whole life in front you. Chill out, relax, get over what ever problems you are having (maybe you don't have problems anymore? well, being on the medication that you are, I would call a problem)

Get off the meds when it feels right, Find some stability in your life. Then someday.....maybe......trip. And I promise you, It'll be great.
 
By the way hydroxyzine is not the 5-HT2A antagonist if that's what you thought... you phrased that to follow each other, maybe it's not what you meant. You are probably getting the hydroxyzine to counteract some side-effects of the other medication, but I might be wrong.
Risperidone / risperdal is the 5-HT2A antagonist and I suppose it's prescribed to suppress some form of thought instability while the depakote is more of a mood stabilizer. Even with the depakote alone, all these stabilizers will either negate psychedelic effects or be thrown out of whack.

By "they are indeed the reason you cannot trip" I meant that 5-HT2A antagonism stops 5-HT2A agonism which is what psychedelics action is mostly about.

There isn't an 'alternative route' to go here... you'd be risking everything, and what is it exactly you think you'd be gaining? For some, psychedelics are a way to re-ground themselves by reintegrating after the 'rebooting' effect... if you get a clean bill of health, I cannot be 100% sure this would be a bad approach for you. You said you used LSD before but not if it was during the time you were having the symptoms that have resulted in this medication.

The drugs you get now work opposite to psychedelics in a way, so there is a big chance they would undo all the good they'd have been doing you and land you right back where you started. You don't know where you would end up mentally, it would be an act of desperation.
I am only assuming you think the LSD will actually act to help you or contribute in a positive way - if the intentions are any less than that it's not even worth thinking about in the first place.

Some people may get medication by overreacting psychiatrists, mood instability and problems I have been having that can be attributed mostly to my drug use - if I weren't so lucid about what I know and think goes on in my mind, standing up for myself and having plenty of knowledge of psychiatric medications... who knows, they might have put me on depakote at some point. Not risperidone though.
In my case, LSD does help me. Many other drugs fuck me up.

Do not misunderstand me, I think all the evidence points to you being sick and needing help until you get better. You cannot decide that on your own as a part of the sickness itself. Your mental state has to be monitored for a while and your stability must be confirmed, and perhaps the option of waning you off slowly is on the table then.
What I just said is about different things that may be going on and us not knowing how sick you really are. And what that might mean for you to be wise never to trip ever again for your own safety... or if it might ever be an option again.

You can tell us a bit more about how it all happened if you want to, it could bring nuance to the story.
 
Yea bro I appreciate the sound advice. I mostly agree with what you are saying about the lsd and stopping meds. Well it started basically around when I was 20 I took about 4 triple stacked speed baased x tabs and after that is when I basically began to get sick. But it wasn't because of the mdma because I got sick about 2 months later. I stayed on a couch for about a year having all types of emotions overly like jealousy sadness happiness and others. Also I was hearing voices during that time...after a year I eventually went to a doctor that psychiatrist that diagnoseed me with schizophreenia...I've been on meds for 7 years and am very stable except when I went to a ward for abusing amphetamines and going nuts....hospitilization lasted a week other than that been fine and stable on meds and I totally feel I would be fine off of them if my psych doc would actually wean me off theem
 
been fine and stable on meds and I totally feel I would be fine off of them if my psych doc would actually wean me off theem
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Most people feel fine on their meds, that's what the medication is supposed to do.

If you wean off your meds or start doing psychoactive drugs with any regularity you are liable to go right back into psychosis. Hallucinogens and schizophrenia are not compatible in many people's books.

Were you taking your medication during the period of time you wre abusing amphetamines?
 
If the diagnosis of schizophrenia is in fact accurate, IMO screwing around with your meds and dropping acid of all things is a surefire way to do possibly irreversible damage to your mental health, or at least precipitate something negative. Ask yourself if a few hours in hyperspace is worth the risk of a lifetime of damage. I'm NOT saying that you cannot trip, but with the meds and the psychiatric history you've descrbed, now just may be the wrong time to do it. Acid isn't going away; it'll always be around, so don't rush at the risk of your future. Remember, if this will only be your 11th acid trip, you may not quite understand the gravity of what you are dealing with. Sounds like playing with fire, a fire that could be put out before you trip next. Think....because once those tabs hit your tounge, all bets are off man.
 
my anti-psychs pose no threat

I dropped 3 hits of good blotter last night although I am on anti-psychotics and it worked great.....I'm on Depakote Risperdal Hydroxyzine and it still made me trip.....
 
You sure you're ok? I understand you had a positive trip, and that you are happy about it. However, you do suffer from bipolar/Schizoaffective disorder (according to your posts), and you seem to be compulsively posting about this event even though your first post was politely closed. Attempting to encourage others taking similar meds to take psychedelics is not harm reduction. Please take care of yourself.
 
i've tripped on similar meds (risperdal neurontin wellbutrin) fine. they dull it to an extent, i guess in most cases they kill a trip entirely but i think full-time use rather than as a trip killer is different.
 
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