Medical marijuana patients face transplant hurdles

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SEATTLE - Timothy Garon's face and arms are hauntingly skeletal, but the fluid building up in his abdomen makes the 56-year-old musician look eight months pregnant.

His liver, ravaged by hepatitis C, is failing. Without a new one, his doctors tell him, he will be dead in days.

But Garon's been refused a spot on the transplant list, largely because he has used marijuana, even though it was legally approved for medical reasons.

"I'm not angry, I'm not mad, I'm just confused," said Garon, lying in his hospital bed a few minutes after a doctor told him the hospital transplant committee's decision Thursday.

With the scarcity of donated organs, transplant committees like the one at the University of Washington Medical Center use tough standards, including whether the candidate has other serious health problems or is likely to drink or do drugs.

And with cases like Garon's, they also have to consider — as a dozen states now have medical marijuana laws — if using dope with a doctor's blessing should be held against a dying patient in need of a transplant.

Most transplant centers struggle with the how to deal with people who have used marijuana, said Dr. Robert Sade, director of the Institute of Human Values in Health Care at the Medical University of South Carolina.

"Marijuana, unlike alcohol, has no direct effect on the liver. It is however a concern ... in that it's a potential indicator of an addictive personality," Sade said.

The Virginia-based United Network for Organ Sharing, which oversees the nation's transplant system, leaves it to individual hospitals to develop criteria for transplant candidates.

At some, people who use "illicit substances" — including medical marijuana, even in states that allow it — are automatically rejected. At others, such as the UCLA Medical Center, patients are given a chance to reapply if they stay clean for six months. Marijuana is illegal under federal law.

Garon believes he got hepatitis by sharing needles with "speed freaks" as a teenager. In recent years, he said, pot has been the only drug he's used. In December, he was arrested for growing marijuana.

Garon, who has been hospitalized or in hospice care for two months straight, said he turned to the university hospital after Seattle's Harborview Medical Center told him he needed six months of abstinence.

The university also denied him, but said it would reconsider if he enrolled in a 60-day drug-treatment program. This week, at the urging of Garon's lawyer, the university's transplant team reconsidered anyway, but it stuck to its decision.

Dr. Brad Roter, the Seattle physician who authorized Garon's pot use for nausea, abdominal pain and to stimulate his appetite, said he did not know it would be such a hurdle if Garon were to need a transplant.

That's typically the case, said Peggy Stewart, a clinical social worker on the liver transplant team at UCLA who has researched the issue. "There needs to be some kind of national eligibility criteria," she said.

The patients "are trusting their physician to do the right thing. The physician prescribes marijuana, they take the marijuana, and they are shocked that this is now the end result," she said.

No one tracks how many patients are denied transplants over medical marijuana use.

Pro-marijuana groups have cited a handful of cases, including at least two patient deaths, in Oregon and California, since the mid-to-late 1990s, when states began adopting medical marijuana laws.

Many doctors agree that using marijuana — smoking it, especially — is out of the question post-transplant.

The drugs patients take to help their bodies accept a new organ increase the risk of aspergillosis, a frequently fatal infection caused by a common mold found in marijuana and tobacco.

But there's little information on whether using marijuana is a problem before the transplant, said Dr. Emily Blumberg, an infectious disease specialist who works with transplant patients at the University of Pennsylvania Hospital.

Further complicating matters, Blumberg said, is that some insurers require proof of abstinence, such as drug tests, before they'll agree to pay for transplants.

Dr. Jorge Reyes, a liver transplant surgeon at the UW Medical Center, said that while medical marijuana use isn't in itself a sign of substance abuse, it must be evaluated in the context of each patient.

"The concern is that patients who have been using it will not be able to stop," Reyes said.

Dale Gieringer, state coordinator for the California chapter of NORML, the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, scoffed at that notion.

"Everyone agrees that marijuana is the least habit-forming of all the recreational drugs, including alcohol," Gieringer said. "And unlike a lot of prescription medications, it's nontoxic to the liver."

Reyes and other UW officials declined to discuss Garon's case.

But Reyes said that in addition to medical concerns, transplant committees — which often include surgeons, social workers, and nutritionists — must evaluate whether patients have the support and psychiatric health to cope with a complex post-operative regimen for the rest of their lives.

Garon, the lead singer for Nearly Dan, a Steely Dan cover-band, remains charged with manufacturing weed. He insists he was following the state law, which limits patients to a "60-day supply" but doesn't define that amount.

"He's just a fantastic musician, and he's a great guy," said his girlfriend, Leisa Bueno. "I wish there was something we could do legally. ... I'm going to miss him terribly if he passes."


Medical marijuana patients face transplant hurdles
GENE JOHNSON
AP
4.26.08


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^^^There are a limited number of organs. He was received the virus from using drugs and he is using an illicit drug (to the Feds) and a medicine that is not approved by all physicians. This isn't a surprise nor is it "HORRIBLE". It's the current medical system. Let's feel lucky we've figured out how to transplant organs in the first place.
 
wow^^^^.

I'm at a loss for words. denying someone a chance at life....why???

I know there is only a limited number of organs to go around but to be so cruel to someone. It's like the system is punishing him for being a drug user. wtf?! It almost makes me sick to my stomach. And if this guy choose narcotics or heavy duty opiates to deal with the pain it'd be no big deal, but since he uses marijuana lets punish him for it??? it's almost beyond punishing him, it's like a death sentence because he isn't taking the most commonly accepted meds. If there is some organs to spare he should qualify regardless if he smokes weed for pain or if he just likes to get blazed for the fun of it.

wow.

then again this guy is a dumbass if he can't lay off the medical marijuana to save his life. I guess you have to play by the medical system's rules....but jeesh wtf.
 
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This is certainly troubling. It's kind of cruel to tell someone who has only days to live that they have to go without their prescribed medicine for 2 months and do drug tests so that they might live.

Seems to me if the doctor prescribed it, and that was why the patient was smoking it in the first place, then the doctor should just stop prescribing it to him, and then he'd be good to go.
 
It's not like the guy couldn't have taken nabilone or dronabinol and made it. nabilone is especially effective.

But even still, it's not like he was using it illegally. That should be all that matters.

The fact that he got hepatitus from speed use has to be a major concern, though.

I think they made the right decision, though perhaps for the wrong reasons.
 
what happened to the hippocratic oath?
|First, do no harm.|

denying someone a transplant outright seems to violate that
 
ok shoot him up with morphine but DONT GIVE HIM WEED
even tho it doesnt affect the organ he wants DONT GIVE IT TO HIM
god fucking morons!
 
Fucking depressing how 'far' we've come :\

Poor guys doomed.. I hope Normal makes him a poster boy for the cause, this is disgusting. Makes it look like if the feds COULD give you a death sentence for smoking weed, they would...and here, they are :(
 
He requires the transplant due to his own mistakes. He smokes weed which does have its benefit for sick people but as well has many negative and harmful side effects that no one can deny. Their is a limited amount of organs therefore the organs should go to those who deserve it most and this man certainly does not fall under this catergory. If there were an unlimited amount of organs and he was denyed then this would be outrageous but he brought this upon himself.
 
very cruel, very wrong.. yes there is a limited number of organs, however use of MEDICAL!!! marijuana should not b the factor that ruled this guy out.. nor should any drug use, but particularly if it is prescribed by a doctor.
 
Garon believes he got hepatitis by sharing needles with "speed freaks" as a teenager. In recent years, he said, pot has been the only drug he's used. In December, he was arrested for growing marijuana.

You cant expect a nation with free needle exchanges to get you a liver when you out shooting up illegal subtances, plan and simple... There people out there that have never done anything to do ill harm to their livers, and should they miss out cause someone was out needle sharing....
 
sylvan Wanderer said:
^^^There are a limited number of organs. He was received the virus from using drugs and he is using an illicit drug (to the Feds) and a medicine that is not approved by all physicians. This isn't a surprise nor is it "HORRIBLE". It's the current medical system. Let's feel lucky we've figured out how to transplant organs in the first place.

you act like what drugs you do or dont should have ANY factor in saving someones life....are u kidding me? there shouldnt be a fucking criteria to deciding if ur the kinda person we feel deserves their life being saved...
 
robd said:
you act like what drugs you do or dont should have ANY factor in saving someones life....are u kidding me? there shouldnt be a fucking criteria to deciding if ur the kinda person we feel deserves their life being saved...

There is when you need to ration the organs. If he gets the transplant, then then there's someone else who doesn't get one. It's tragic, but until we learn a feasible way to manufacture organs, people will inevitably be denied transplants; there simply aren't enough organs for everyone who needs one.

That being said, I agree that marijuana use shouldn't be a disqualifier.
 
This is unacceptable and unforgivable. I understand that the decision was tough but when I saw the picture of that man it makes me wonder how well those doctors sleep at night. I am in shock that a doctor could look at a patient with a few days to live in the eyes and tell them the only way they would even consider letting them on the list for a transplant is if they stay "clean" for six months. Stay "clean" from a drug that has relieved their pain and stimulated their appetite. It's a catch 22 in it's purest form.

I pray for this man and his family
 
If this man got the liver another person would of died. Either way a person would of died. Although i think it is pretty stupid to deny it just because of medical weed.
 
"If you smoke weed you will DIE"

...or at least we'll help you to.

:)




what a pleasant country.. home of the (drug) free.
 
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