Medical marijuana is an insult to our intelligence

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Medical marijuana is an insult to our intelligence

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2009/10/medical_marijuana_is_an_insult.html

By Charles Lane | October 20, 2009; 5:56 PM ET

The Justice Department says it's backing off the prosecution of people who smoke pot or sell it in compliance with state laws that permit "medical marijuana." Attorney General Eric Holder says "it will not be a priority to use federal resources to prosecute patients with serious illnesses or their caregivers." Party hardy! I mean -- let the healing begin!

I don't think the federal government should be spending a whole lot of time on small-time druggies, and I'm undecided about legalizing pot, which enjoys 44 percent support among the general public, according to a recent poll. Recreational use is not the wisest thing -- and if my 12-year-old son is reading this, that means you! -- but it's no more harmful than other drugs (e.g., alcohol) and impossible to eradicate. On the other hand, I worry it's a gateway to harder stuff. So I think we probably should have an open debate about decriminalization.

But it should be a real debate, about real decriminalization, and not clouded -- pardon the expression -- by hokum about "medical marijuana." To the extent it puts the attorney general's imprimatur on the notion that people are getting pot from "caregivers" to deal "with serious illnesses" -- as opposed to growing their own or flocking to "dispensaries" just to get high -- the Justice Department's move is not so constructive.

I do not deny that for some people, including some terminal cancer patients and pain-wracked AIDS sufferers, marijuana is a blessed relief. Let 'em smoke, I say, just as the Justice Department has usually ignored such cases since long before Holder spoke up. But if you believe there is any scientific evidence that smoked marijuana has the multiplicity of therapeutic uses that advocates claim -- well, I've got a bag of oregano I'd like to sell you.

Usually, drugs have to pass exacting testing by the Food and Drug Administration before they go on the market. There's a good reason for this: we don't want people spending money on products that might be ineffective or actually harmful. In California and elsewhere, however, snake oil -- sorry, "medical marijuana" -- got on the market via a different route: popular referendum. The pot for sale in dispensaries is subject to none of the purity controls that actual pharmaceutical drugs must meet. Indeed, the new DOJ policy essentially recognizes a gray market for pot, leaving these supposedly seriously ill people at the mercy of their dealers -- I mean caregivers -- with respect to quality and efficacy.

What other substances should we handle this way? Cocaine? Laetrile? Didn't President Obama just sign a bill authorizing the FDA to regulate the nicotine content of tobacco? And I thought he promised to "restore science to its rightful place."

Under California's law, you don't even need a prescription to get pot (which would admittedly have been a problem, since the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency controls who gets a prescription pad, and not many doctors would use theirs to prescribe an illegal drug). All it takes is a "written or oral recommendation" from a physician.

A few years ago, a California woman called Angel Raich took her defense of medical pot all the way to the Supreme Court. She lost on the legal issue, which had nothing to do with the medical effectiveness of pot. Along the way, though, she claimed that she was suffering from "life-threatening" scoliosis, temporomandibular joint dysfunction, bruxism, endometriosis, headache, rotator cuff syndrome, uterine fibroids, and Schwannoma. The Latin names might have snowed some judges, but physicians recognized each of these conditions as a common, non-life-threatening problem for which conventional treatments were available. Raich listed a cornucopia of potent drugs, from Vicodin to Methadone, that she had tried previously and gotten no satisfaction. I'm not a doctor, but I thought she might consider a consultation for hypochondria, or perhaps marijuana dependency.

This is not an isolated instance. According to a survey by NORML, the pro-"medical marijuana" organization, which can be expected to emphasize the desperate health of users, only 22 percent of California medical marijuana users suffer from AIDS-related disease. Most of the rest have more subjective maladies such as "chronic pain" or "mood disorders."

Raich's physician was Frank Lucido, a well-known Berkeley doctor and pro-pot activist -- he also makes money as an expert witness on "medical marijuana" -- whose Web site boasts that he was "investigated by the Medical Practices Board of California for cannabis evaluation practices in 2003, and fully exonerated." The case involved his recommendation of marijuana to treat attention deficit disorder in a 16-year-old boy, but, as I say, he was fully exonerated.

In a brilliant article (requires subscription) on this subject in the Hastings Center Report, a bioethics journal, lawyer and anesthesiologist Peter J. Cohen noted that "medical marijuana" groups have been notably passive about demanding FDA testing and approval for this purported elixir. Instead, they took their case to the people. As Cohen argued, this is no way to make health policy: "medical marijuana," he wrote, should be "subjected to the same scientific scrutiny as any drug proposed for use in medical therapy, rather than made legal for medical use by popular will." The "medical marijuana" movement may not be a threat to our civilization, but it is an insult to our intelligence.
 
Re-legalize cannabis. People have a natural right to decide for themselves what substances they will ingest. Farmers should be free to grow any crop they want. Doctors and government officials should not interfere with sick people treating themselves. It's just a plant. Get over it and leave us alone.
 
Too bad the writer fell for the gateway myth. If you see someone foolishly falling for this myth, please set them straight. The more people who are educated about they myth, and the more who speak up and write letters to newspapers, blogs, etc., and get the information out there, the better off our cause is.
If you don't know much about the gateway myth, please, please educate yourself.
Some information is located here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9-xOTsIhZk
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/media/schaffer1.htm
http://www.drugsense.org/tfy/conv.htm
http://blog.reclaimingfutures.org/?q=marijuana_as_a_gateway_drug

Finally, I will quote one source at length, both because it is a worthy source and because it is a short excerpt from a longer webpage:
(http://www.bccla.org/othercontent/03nonmedicaldrugs.html)

Cannabis is a "gateway" drug that causes users to try other, more dangerous, drugs.

"This myth is perhaps the most widely circulated reason for continued prohibition of cannabis. The gateway myth has been propagated to this committee by law enforcement, and even by some members. In his book "Understanding Marijuana," author Mitch Earleywine summarizes the results of literally hundreds of studies of cannabis. The conclusion is that "[t]here is no evidence that cannabis creates physiological changes that increase the desire for drugs. The idea that marijuana causes subsequent drug use also appears unfounded…only a minority of marijuana smokers try cocaine, crack or heroin." (1) The gateway myth has been refuted over and over again.

But there is a true gateway effect associated with cannabis. People who, as a result of prohibition, are forced to purchase cannabis on the black market are much more likely to come into contact with other drugs. The Netherlands recognized this truth long ago and, in an effort to stem a growing problem with injection drug use, essentially legalized the sale of cannabis in established coffeshops. The result was a break between the cannabis and hard drug markets with a corresponding decline in the number of new hard drug users. Indeed, in 1999 the average age of a heroin addict in the Netherlands was 36 and the total number of addicts, despite ready access to cannabis (the supposed gateway drug), had remained constant for years. (2) The solution to cannabis' gateway effect is not continued prohibition (indeed, that is the problem) but rather legalization and regulation of the industry."

1 Earleywine, M, "Understanding Marijuana" Oxford University Press 2002, p. 63-64.
2 Netherlands Ministry of Justice, Fact Sheet: Dutch Drugs Policy, (Utrecht: Trimbos Institute, Netherlands Institute of Mental Health and Addiction,1999), from the Netherlands Justice Ministry website at http://www.minjust.nl:8080/a_beleid/fact/cfact7.htm.
 
The OP must be ignorant of the credible large scale peer reviewed medical studies that show that marijuana is very effective for treating real medical conditions.

Besides helping cancer patients eat when they are wasting away and reducing pain in conjunction with other meds, did you know that marijuana helps suppress the immune system which is valuable for people suffering from auto-immune conditions?

Marijuana isnt snake oil. Its real medicine in crude form.
 
LSD will be used in future medicine.

Since cannabis is not my doc, I just want decriminalization so all the squares will start lighting up (as they are beginning to). Critical mass.
 
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If they legalized marijuana we could control the quality and purity as this article complains about. Why do you think we don't know what's in each individual plant? oh yeah, because it's illegal to regulate
 
The OP must be ignorant of the credible large scale peer reviewed medical studies that show that marijuana is very effective for treating real medical conditions.

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Marijuana isnt snake oil. Its real medicine in crude form.

There are many types of medicine, and I think there is a place for marijuana-based substances in medicine. I'm not anti-weed at all heh.. But in modern medicine substances that are put into patients' bodies are extracted and/or synthesized and highly refined, not raw or crudely refined organic material. So, for example, we get very strong opiates or opiods rather than raw opium or poppy tea for severe pain. Whether or not this is the best approach may be debatable, but I'd trust my health to modern medicine rather than any alternative if I needed my appendix removed or got in a life threatening auto accident.

Studies on new or controversial medicines are becoming more dubious, with evidence that the placebo effect is getting stronger. I don't doubt the medicinal value of marijuana for many ailments, not just "medical marijuana" but also regular marijuana that people can get arrested for, but it isn't the cure-all some say it is. I know plenty of people who use it regularly and have for many years who are no healthier than average.

My main contention is with the grey market that is growing around "medical" marijuana. How exactly is it different from illegal marijuana grown from the same starting material in the same way? I fear "medical marijuana" may set back complete decriminalization or legalization of marijuana for many reasons, among them unscrupulous and illegal (at local, state, and federal level) practices of many involved in the "medical marijuana" industry. Many pot shops are like modern day speakeasies where most customers are healthy young adults who hang out, get high and goof off where they buy their "medicine", not terminally ill or seriously debilitated patients.

Legalize it and make more strong medicines from it for some and allow everyone else of a certain age grow or buy and enjoy in peace.
 
I think you mean the article's author, right? It is not by me...

I meant Original Post, not Original Poster. Same abbreviation. I disagree with him calling marijuana snake oil, but agree that we should stop pussy footing around and legalize it, or at least decriminalize it on the national level.


And LSD is used in medicine for cluster headaches. I used to get cluster headaches. They are so intense that they nickname them suicide headaches because people commit suicide just to stop the pain. People will literally pull out a gun and blow their brains out during an attack because they are just that bad and they want them to end. I guess you could consider it a life threatening condition.

They found that LSD in a single dose could prevent cluster headaches in a large number of patients for up to 6 months. Perhaps in the future they will be giving people small doses of acid twice a year for cluster headaches....or you could just self medicate.
 
There are many types of medicine, and I think there is a place for marijuana-based substances in medicine. I'm not anti-weed at all heh.. But in modern medicine substances that are put into patients' bodies are extracted and/or synthesized and highly refined, not raw or crudely refined organic material. So, for example, we get very strong opiates or opiods rather than raw opium or poppy tea for severe pain. Whether or not this is the best approach may be debatable, but I'd trust my health to modern medicine rather than any alternative if I needed my appendix removed or got in a life threatening auto accident.

Actually, you are incorrect.

Did you know that we still use whole plants in modern medicine? Opium tincture is just juice of the poppy in an alcohol extract....no chemical processing, no semi-synthetics, just raw opium poppy and alcohol administered with a dropper. Its still in use in modern medicine. Kind of contradicts the theory that modern medicine means it must be some synthetic extracted byproduct.

Marijuana can be made the same way. We can make oils in standardized dosage. It can be carefully measured out dosses that are checked for quality and potency and standardized and still be a whole plant medicine and there is no reason why that wouldnt qualify as modern medicine if opium tincture still qualifies.

So far, all the isolated cannabinoids have been inferior to the whole plant. Isolating the 'active' chemicals and pressing them into a pill does not necessarily mean that its better medicine. The reason we tend to use single chemical extracts and semi-synthetics is NOT because they are safer or have superior results during clinical trials, its because isolated and semi-synthetic chemicals can be patented and owned and this means lots of money where nobody can own the rights to using a whole plant that grows wild.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laudanum
 
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When was the last time Laudanum was used in the west? Like a 100years ago or something?
 
I am pretty sure its being used right now as we speak. Sometimes the classics are still great. They still make it and sell it if thats what you are asking. Its still prescribed for diarrhea and pain.
 
I agree with the original post. The whole "medical marijuana" label is bullshit, the majority of users just want to get stoned. Arguing otherwise is just pointless.
 
since when does the FDA decide what is and isn't medicine? most naturopathic medicines are careful to even state they are not certified by the FDA to cure illness but they do anyway because people have been depending on herbs for thousands of years to cure their ills and now people pop an FDA-approved pill and the pain goes away until they drop dead from the problem that was inappropriately masked by pharmaceutical medicine.

there's a simpler reason people turn to medical marijuana: its side-effects are a lot more pleasant than those of "conventional" meds.
 
I agree with the original post. The whole "medical marijuana" label is bullshit, the majority of users just want to get stoned. Arguing otherwise is just pointless.

how would you know? sources? if you are not ill and using marijuana for those purposes this claim has no merit.
 
Some people are just brainwashed into thinking that just because its natural and crude then it must not work. Its only "medicine" if you isolate the active compounds and put it into a pill that can be patented and owned....but I already dismissed that claim since opium tincture is just a whole plant extract in alcohol and it is still in use.

Marijuana could be potency controlled, they could make an oil/tincture and give it in dropper form with absolute dosage measured out with some special chemical testers for standardization. The whole plant has so far proven superior to the isolated compounds.


Large scale placebo controled double bliind peer reviewed studies have been done and they have demonstrated that marijuana is the most potent anti-emetic known to modern medicine, and can be used when first line treatments fail for nausea in cancer patients. There is no longer any debate. Marijuana has its place in medicine.

Its also shown to help some people with certain types of pain, especially stomach pain for some reason, less effective for sharp pain.

Marijuana is now being investigated for its ability to slow down the immune system which can be contraindicated for infections but advantageous if you suffer from an auto-immune condition.
 
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