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measurement for 2C-I

Arts warrior

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ok so i have 200 mg of 2C-I and i dont have a scale to measure it out in milligrams. anyway i was wondering if taking an eyedropper and adding 200 drops of water to it so it dissolves and then dosing it out as one drop equals one milligram. just wondering if anyone knows if this will work.
 
Of course it will. Though you may want to use vodka or grain alcohol instead of water so no nasties grow on your phens.
 
thanks i will problly will use vodka but was just looking around online and some places say that it degrades if it dissolved and i wanted to make sure that it would dissolve evenly.
 
I have 500mg in 250mL vodka and it dissolved just fine, I've heard about people dissolving much more in much less. And it shouldn't degrade significantly in your life time, I've heard about people storing it this way for very long periods of time. Just make sure you have it properly sealed as alcohol will evaporate slowly at room temperature and that will change your concentration.
 
thanks so much im problly going to dissolve it in vodka in a blue vial with a dropper to protect it from any light and keep it sealed up.
 
not to sound stupid or anything but i have done alot of shit in my time but i never herd of this 2C-I what is it and what does it do??? im very interessted,,probably cant find it around here but would like to hear all about it ...I was quite a cid fan for years and always got very high strength shit,,there was never a need to do more than 2 hits to totaly trip out that would last up to 10 to 15 hours,,,any info would be greatly appreciated...thanx..
 
2C-I is a synthetic phenethylamine created by alexander shulgin it is some what similliar to 2C-B which you might have heard of. it is only fairly recently that it became a some-what known substance however it is not illegal unless marketed as intended for human use as it would be considered an illegal analog of 2C-B. most people purchase it off research chemical sites a quick google search bring up several good websites with a varity of both phenethylamines such as 2C-I, 2C-C, 2C-C, and several different tryptamines like DPT, 5-MeO-DALT these are just the ones on the website i use.
 
I recommend being a bit more methodical about prepping your solution. It really isn't that much work. Buy a oral syringe (or take a needle of a syringe), get yourself a nice dark jar, and a little bit of high proof alcohol. Calculate a concentration of around 5mg pr mL and create your solution with atleast 20% alcohol by volume using distilled water). An syringe should have marks representing 1mL/1cc. This allows you to dose safely by allowing you to be more accurate in your volume measurement. A few mgs can make a big difference in effects. Also with out a scale, it is nice to have the concentration theorized to be small, like 5mg per mL so you can titrate your dose (start out by consuming 1mg [1mL]). Even if you were given double the amount, if you start off only consuming 1/5mL (the syringe I used has a hash mark for every 5th of mL), you would only have increase your dose by 1mg. From there you slowly can increase your dose up till you reach the desired effects. 1/5mL didn't give what you desires (obviously), try 1mL. Even with the doubled amount given and put in the solution, 1mg would only equal 10mg. Next time try 1 1/5. Basically slowly work your way up to be as safe as possible.

In the sake of being as harm reduction like as possible, even just spend 30-60 on a ebay mg scale. It may not be the best, and it shouldn't be used for measurements under 15mg imo, but it will be perfect for accurately measuring your substances before putting some into solution. (weight out 50mg, create a solution, and dose appropriately)
 
Of course it will. Though you may want to use vodka or grain alcohol instead of water so no nasties grow on your phens.

Eh, I'm not sure the drop size after dissolving the 2CI will be the same as for pure water/vodka. But if you don't know the starting amount I guess it doesn't matter so much. You should work up to an active dosage carefully because of this, and don't assume you know what dose (in mg, based on this batch) is good for you if you get a new batch, because you're not going to know the dose accurately.
 
thanks guys im honestly not sure which method i will use. i problly will just by a scale as it will be more usefull in the long run, heres the one im looking at "American Weigh Gemini-20 Portable Milligram Scale, 20 by 0.001 G" its on amazon could you guys take a look and see if it will be sufficent for what i need
 
It looks pretty cheap for a .001 mg scale, though it's been a while since I bought one. For 200mg it's probably fine but I wouldn't count on it for weighing anything much smaller.
 
Those AWG scales are GARBAGE. +/- like 8mg, and they intentionally "stabilize" the reading to camoflage their unacceptable drift. By stabilize, i mean, hide the effect on the displayed weight of adding small amounts of material, as well as hiding the noise and drift of their sub-par sensor.

Any scale that isn't meant for lab use isn't suitable for anything that requires doses of less than 25 or 50mg. It's better than eyeballing, but only barely.

You can get used lab-grade scales for incredibly cheap on ebay though - i got a 0.1mg scale, that's reasonably (it reads maybe 0.3% high, and drifts an mg or two per hr) accurate for only $75 because the display is burned in and a bit hard to read. There are similar deals around for milligram scales too.

Avoid anything that's selling new for under $50, or anything that's selling new for more than $50 but looks just like all those cheapo scales.

Regarding liquid dosing: It works great, and I did it extensively before I had my good scale....

200mg 2C-I in 200 drops would be pushing it though - 30 drops = ~1ml (depends on your dropper, i have some that produce drops half that size), so that'd be ~6.67 ml - so by my numbers, that wouldn't dissolve the 2C-I. Presence of a 2C did not change the size of a drop noticeably in my experiments. Your enemy is evaporation, because that'll throw off all your measurements. Ensure that the containers are stored right-end-up, tightly sealed.
I'd do something more like 200mg 2C-I in 200ml of 20% EtOH (half vodka half water). Measure with an oral syringe, turkey injector* (take the pointy thing out and replace it with a short length of tubing, the most common aquarium tube size can be wedged in it's place and make a good seal), graduated cylinder, etc.

Always re-seal tightly, and if you are going to leave for long periods of time (like months or something), mark the level that it was at when you left, so when you come back, if the liquid level is lower, you can refill to that level and maintain the original concentration.

A few numbers. These are not _super accurate_ and were determined empirically for a saturated solution... but this should be useful as a general guide. You can't use these concentrations in practice (because you don't want it to crystalize out on a cool day), but this is a starting point.


Temp was 75 F

2C-C ~100mg/ml (!!!)

2C-B ~45mg/ml

2C-I ~25mg/ml

2C-T-2 85~90mg/ml

2C-D ~100mg/ml (!!!)

2C-E ~70mg/ml


In dH2O, 2C-I slightly under 20mg/ml

In 40% EtOH, 2C-I ~50 mg/ml

2C-I takes goddamned forever to dissolve, no matter what you're dissolving it in. Others go into solution much faster.

The point of those high concentrations was to be able to make a solution that could be dosed based on a dropper marked at 0.2ml, with one to two dropperfulls being a full dose. I eventually canned the idea because of evaporation, and the fact that I very rarely dose away from my milligram scale. I'd do it if i was going to be dosing something among a lot of people though - with 2C-C/T-2 you can get the concentration high enough that it's possible to put them under your tongue and not have trouble not-swallowing.

*Yes, they make turkey injectors. You use them to get your turkey high on seasoning+gravy while you're cooking it. They're in the cooking section of many stores and avail online. Make sure you get one marked in ml, not tablespoons. Sometimes called flavor injectors. No, i'm not kidding: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_15?keywords=turkey+injector
 
thanks so much Azo that alot of really usefull info. seeing as the scale i was looking at is a piece of shit. ill problly end up dissolving the 2C-I in 10 ml of half vodka half steralized water which would work out perfectly for 10 20 mg doses
 
*Yes, they make turkey injectors. You use them to get your turkey high on seasoning+gravy while you're cooking it. They're in the cooking section of many stores and avail online. Make sure you get one marked in ml, not tablespoons. Sometimes called flavor injectors. No, i'm not kidding: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_15?keywords=turkey+injector

Hehe, learn something new, etc! Arts, that sounds fine, just don't count on 1mL=20mg, depending on who you got it from, it could be anywhere from maybe 10-30mg. Best bet is to start small and work your way up.
 
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yeah i would problly start at around 1/2 ml and see what thats like. anyway some of the things ive read about this method make it seem that 2C-I doesnt dissolve verry well at room temperature has anyone found this to be the case?
 
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