Meant Marquis Reagent, not Maruis Reagent.

[mashewman]

When using EZ Test Xtreme, the first test went purple to black with fizz very quickly. The 2nd test, the Simons Reagent, went to Indigo very quickly, and the third test, the Marquis Reagent, went to dk brown fairly quickly, what does this mean?
That there is definately speed in this pill? What kind? Is it for sure MDMA?
thanks,
catherine

 

[mashewman]

I re-did this test, getting no comments on here, I was still curious. I used the correct amount of 1 drop of reagent instead of two that came out before and it definately was blacker this time. Still with some dk brn though. any ideas? safe to take?

 

[Soma]

Hi there, firstly you can edit your posts and even deleting them (including the topic of the thread) by clicking on the 'edit topic' link when viewing the thread. That way you don't have restart a new if a mistake is made.
Secondly
EZ-Extreme comes with 3 tests. Marquis reagent, Simon's Reagent+fixer, Robadope+fixer.
The first test that you should always conduct, and the test that will give a purple->black reaction with MDMA is the Marquis reagent. Sometimes this is called EZ-Test Classic but I'm not sure what the exact wording is on the Extreme kit. You said the first test you did you recieved a purple->black reaction so I'm assuming that this was done with marquis reagent.
The second test you did was with Simon's reagent. This is conducted using the substance+simon's+fixer and you got an indigo blue.
You then conducted a third test. Well logic would say that you have therefore conducted a Robadope reagent test and not a marquis test. This is the substance+robadope+fixer test. A brownish result is a typical colour that this reagent turns.
I'll now attempt to answer your questions:

what does this mean?
A marquis purple->black reactions means that your substance likely contains MDA or MDMA or MDE or a combination of both
A Simons reagent reaction means that your substance contains a secondary amine. When you have a purple->black reaction with marquis this usually means the substance contains MDMA
A Robadope reaction means that your substance contains a primary amine.
This confuses things a bit, it seems your substance has more than one active chemical in its contents. A pure MDMA pill will not react with Robadope, there is no primary amine present. A pure MDA pill will not react with Simon's, there is no secondary amine present.
It is likely therefore, your substance contains the following combinations:
MDMA/MDA
MDMA/amphetamine
It is also possible your substance contains the following combinations:
MDMA/PMA
PMMA/MDA
Methamphetamine/MDA

That there is definately speed in this pill? What kind?
Nothing is definate. It is possible however that your pill may contain speed, and judging from the combination possibilities it may be amphetamine.

Is it for sure MDMA?
Nothing is 'for sure' There are certain reagent combinations that can mean a variety of things. We can only look at past results and say something is 'likely' to be something rather than 'there is'.
[ 06 April 2002: Message edited by: Soma ]

 

[mashewman]

Soma,
Thanks much for your response. Let me ask you one more question. Would you take this pill? It is a clear capsule with slightly off white powder in it.
I am not sure what to do now. You are correct about the tests. I conducted them in the order instructed in the manual that came with the vials.
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[Soma]

Alas that is something I cannot advise. Overall your chances of something going wrong (ie death, coma, OD etc) are generally fairly low. However they are a lot lot greater because of that robadope reaction. If just got a purple->black with marquis and a blue with Simon's I would be saying 'It is most likely you have a sample of MDMA there. Make sure you understand what it is, the dosage, any contraindications and any other harm reduction information relevent and go for it' However the presense of an unknown adds a level of complexity for which the absolutes become a little less defined.
You may for instance, have an MDMA/PMA mix which is not good. In reality however the chance of that is low - but it does happen. There is lab evidence that it does happen.
Good luck with your decision.

 

[easy e]

Hi Guys,
I just wanted to point out that with robadope only a salmon red color indicates a primary amine. Any other or no reaction means nothing..
I have seen a very clean mdma sample go dark brown with robadope, and have no idea why...
just look for salmon red..