MDxx Sleep Disturbances

[tribesman]

After a night on some good MDxx pills, I often go to sleep and wake up after only an hour or so to use the bathroom or something. After this short amount of post trip sleep, I often find myself having strange anxious thoughts that in retrospect make no real sense. For instance, I may have this strange thought that my body has to lie in a certain postion when I go back to sleep, or something more abstract and bizarre that I can't give a logical explanation. It really gives me some anxiety, on a couple of occassions it's almost felt like a mild panic attack coming on with these strange thoughts.

This is not something that can be put down to benders, large doses or frequent use.

Does anyone else experienced this kind of thing?

 

[headdah]

get some 5htp into ya post load it. makes the sleep a lot easier and deeper yo .

And i am jealous of you having this sorta problem as that means u have access to some mdxx. Which is rarer than fucken blood diamonds in this shithole we call the land downunder

 

[L3inad]

Well firstly, are you sure what you've been taking is MDxx?

Due to the current climate, I doubt it but I personally have been enjoying a bit of artifically induced love of late so its definately possible but unlikely.

Waking up to go to the bathroom is perfectly normal due to vasoconstrictive properties of MDxx type substances as well as the water retension effects it has.
I piss an ocean after getting home from a night of eye wobbles and gurning.

Sleeping on MD is normally easy for most, after its worn off ofc.

Sometimes I find it quite hard to sleep especially when combined with other stimulants and often find myself in a twitchy tweaky state of just trying to get the right/most comfortable position to sleep in and never succeed. Tossing and turning for hours until I eventually doze off. I get restless legs something chronic after MD which plays a large part.

Getting anxious is something I've never experienced when trying to sleep. Maybe regret from embarassing moments during the night possibly?

Could be something within yourself and not a direct result of the drugs, but who's to say?

As mentioned above, I think the most likely cause is that what your taking is not the real deal. Do you test your gear?

 

[Inorganic]

At a festival last year, I spent a night doing and passing around a gram of molly and a few pink stars (the only really quality pills I've ever had, btw) and my tentmates said that once I did get to sleep, I was doing a lot of talking and sitting up and doing things. Amphetamines in general make my sleep weird, though.

 

[drug_mentor]

I can't say I recall ever experiencing anything like this in my pill poppin' days, but then again as others have said there is a good likelihood you may not be consuming MDxx.

Do you use anything to assist your sleep on the comedown? In my experience a whole lot of pill poppers (including myself) enjoy killing a fat mix after a night out on the beans just before crashing. Cannabis can make a lot of people prone to anxiety, especially if combined with stimulants, I think if you are smoking a lot of weed to crash out and/or while you are on the "MDxx" then there is a very strong chance this is a factor contributing to your anxiety.

I would suggest that you do your best to ascertain exactly what is in the pills you are taking to cause this effect, as there is a good chance you are taking some weird RC, do you test your pills?

I think benzodiazepines would be helpful in assissting you sleep on comedowns and should relieve most, if not all, anxiety symptoms. You may not have access to benzo's and if you haven't started using them yet I will warn you addiction is entirely possible, and withdrawals are horrific.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=481238 This thread details some plant extracts that have anxiolytic and sedative properties and these may be a better first port of call than benzo's, as they probably have less potential for addiction.

 

[phase_dancer]

MDMA can definitely cause sleep disturbances following use, even for days after. I'd suggest it's possibly due to 5HT depletion and dihydroxy metabolites. It doesn't seem to affect everyone, but some people seem to experience it often, perhaps indicating a possible genetic link in metabolism i.e. some people may produce more of the depression causing alpha methyldopamine (dihydroxy) metabolites.

 

[tribesman]

Thanks for the replies.

The pills I consume with this issue are almost definently MDxx, it's not just a recent phenomonen but something I have been getting for years with occassional use.

I tend to use L-Tryptophan rather than 5-HTP for post loading as it is arguably the better option as I think PD will attest. The problem with this however is that the conversion to Serotonin from L-Tryptophan is much longer than for 5-HTP, so taking it directly after a trip is unlikely to have much effect if you sleep that night. It does however make a noticable difference in the days following with daily dosing.

 

[bne00]

I can't sleep after decent pills unless I have been working that day or was really tired before going out. I find myself just rolling around and getting up to piss every 30min on the dot pretty much, i think I because I can't piss for hours while im peaking it all has to come out

It freaking sucks because all you want to do is get some sleep, the next day is sweet though when you have the best sleep I only ever had weird dreams the first couple times I rolled, and once after having some speedbombs and I couldn't sleep for like 36 hours haha.