Re. addiction, I'd say it was considerably less addictive than mephedrone, which I was developing a real issue with earlier in the year but knocked on the head, and mdpv was quite a good substitute, but I didn't cane it like I did with meph, it was nice getting a gram and making it last ages and ages
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MDPV - So how dangerous is it?
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MDPV also makes me extremely paranoid (if i would be in a club i get a constant panic attack becuase i think everyone is going to beat me up), amphetamine has never come close to such extreme paranoia (on amphetamine i may constantly think someone is going to break into my house but thats very mild compared to MDPV)
Maybe this extra stress caused my chest pains?
Maybe this extra stress caused my chest pains?
fastandbulbous
Bluelight Crew
^ If that's the case, I'd say you'd be best off avoiding stimulants altogether as amphetamine usually increases confidence etc. Thinking your house will be burgled seems induicative of a fairly serious underlying anxiety disorder
amanitadine
Bluelighter
well i dunno, i and others notice a distinct paranoid bent with MDPV...and moreso at the higher doses. Me and the missus have found it to shine best at small doses (5 mg) taken i.m., and then spend the day in bed. This is great. But at higher doses and venturing out into society we, and others, get an almost hilarious paranoid bent to things. almost hilarious. 
This becomes more pronounced esp. when re-dosing. shines best small and in bed....heh
This becomes more pronounced esp. when re-dosing. shines best small and in bed....heh
dread
Bluelighter
I never had any paranoia from MDPV. Quite the opposite.
fastandbulbous
Bluelight Crew
Don't get me wrong, I've had some iffy moments with peevee; probably a bit less than I've had with amphetamine and waaay less than what I experienced from methamphetamine
dread
Bluelighter
To elaborate: "quite the opposite" meaning that MDPV makes me immune to fear, or any kind of thinking about the consequences of my actions. This is one of the reasons I choose not to use this substance anymore.
It also does that to me, but the paranoia and increase in confidence seem to be completely differend actions, this stuff makes me look as a fool mdma doesnt come close to it.
nanobrain
Bluelighter
after some years of experimentation with this substance, including intermittent longterm periods (2-4 months) of dosing upwards of 800 mg/d, i consider MDPV to be the most physically benign stimulant - and the same time, as the most psychologically addictive psychopharmacological agent i know. and i know a rather few by the first name.
infact, i am aware of only one surefire way to stop, once severe addiction sets in: cold turkey as she goes, flush the remaining stash. fullstop.
do not play around with this one kids lest you be prepared to go to the very bottom of your soul and then start digging
infact, i am aware of only one surefire way to stop, once severe addiction sets in: cold turkey as she goes, flush the remaining stash. fullstop.
do not play around with this one kids lest you be prepared to go to the very bottom of your soul and then start digging
dread
Bluelighter
Tolerance builds up extremely fast on this substance.
fastandbulbous
Bluelight Crew
Yep agree wholeheartedly, but my max intake topped off at 250mg/day
ebola?
Bluelight Crew
Since we're doing personal reports...I hate this compound. Jitters and anxiety obscure most any possible euphoria, yet there is compulsion to re-dose, getting worse when running from the crash, and then worse still when treating self-induced insomnia from the day before.
Cocaine and methylphenidate do similar things to me. Amphetamines and substituted amphetamines tend to feel fucking great though.
SO...have we decided that the 3,4-methylene-dioxy substitution doesn't present concerns of toxic metabolites in the absence of simultaneous release of DA and 5ht?
ebola
Cocaine and methylphenidate do similar things to me. Amphetamines and substituted amphetamines tend to feel fucking great though.
SO...have we decided that the 3,4-methylene-dioxy substitution doesn't present concerns of toxic metabolites in the absence of simultaneous release of DA and 5ht?
ebola
amanitadine
Bluelighter
yeah same for me ebola.....prob my least favorite stimulant...or "real" one that is. I had a few grams and thought it would last forever until i both started freebasing it and shooting it. then i managed to burn thru 2.5 grams in 4 days. and yeah, there were cops everywhere by the end of it :D and god, by taking GBL to balance, i damn near wore my penis clean away
Same thing for me, cocaine and ritalin make me very paranoid and arent enjoyable because of that, amphetamines work good tough, bit paranoia but it doesnt ruin the high.
Cocaine is many times more enjoyable than d-MPH.
I've never tried MDPV; I was under the impression that it was little more than a more potent MPH. I assumed it had little affinity for the SERT, which in my opinion, makes cocaine far more enjoyable than MPH.
I've never tried MDPV; I was under the impression that it was little more than a more potent MPH. I assumed it had little affinity for the SERT, which in my opinion, makes cocaine far more enjoyable than MPH.
fastandbulbous
Bluelight Crew
ebola?
Bluelight Crew
This I will concede: sex on it is pretty top-notch.
However, I felt like crap right up until penetration and a couple minutes after orgasm.
ebola
However, I felt like crap right up until penetration and a couple minutes after orgasm.
ebola
dread
Bluelighter
Sex on MDPV + GHB is amazing...