MDPV - So how dangerous is it?

[Scientist7]

This thread is a little crazy, because MDPV started as a first dose, replicating all of your complete horror stories perfectly, but now it does not!

First night of experience, guy places plate with 8 ballz line down, maybe 15-25mG?

Within a half hour, I am like, "WOW, this is incredibe this can be purchased legally."

I was having extreme euphoria from 20 up to the 45~ minute point, maybe longer. At about 1.5 hours in, the talking had slowed, and I asked if I could get a glass of ice water. I started getting the MDMA "hot roll" feeling. Pretty soon, I say, "well I better head out to get home". Which was a 1.5hr drive away.

As soon as I start driving home, surely less than 2hrs after the one and only line, I was panicking. Heart racing. I thought I was going to either scrape a construction wall with my new car, or have a heart attack. I drive, drive, drive. Finally I tell mymelf, I need fluid, bad. So I pull in a gas stating, go potty, and grab a Gatoraid. The drink felt relieving. Like Ahhh, it's over. As I'm driving, all the panic comes back. I dealt with it until home, then swallowed 4 10mg-methadones ASAP. When they kicked in I finally felt relief.

I thought my MDPV experience had gone and went. Now I have plenty. And now, I love it. After the tolerance built, I began enjoying it more than cocaine, which required repeated insulflation, unlike MDPV. The best thing you can do for yourself is get yourself a bag of xanax 2mg bars, and do NOT drive. Get to where you want to be, do your MDPV, and when you get a little pressure in the chest, start with a half and take 1mg xanax. It will soften you up. Things will get better. If not 1.0mg, 2.0mg-2.5mg will surely do the trick to end the rush.

Get yourself a bunch of premade energy protein drink meals. You wont want to chew food, but you will love to eat. Grab regular Myoplex from Walmart. Strawberry is great. Drink 2 for every meal you miss. You will stop losing wight if on an MDPV binge. Most importantly, remember when to sleep, and the the xanax (+ alarm clock) to take care of that responsibility.

I am motivated, driven, and have completed and cleaned more projects in 2 weeks than I have in a year. I Love this stuff. But which name brand product is most pure? That's what I'm wondering! I stick to Eight Ballz so far.

 

[mb01]

I am motivated, driven, and have completed and cleaned more projects in 2 weeks than I have in a year. I Love this stuff. But which name brand product is most pure? That's what I'm wondering! I stick to Eight Ballz so far.

Haha, yeah i know the feeling, i've achieved almost impossible things whilst Peeving, sometimes i can't even comprehend how i finished the task, ending up being in an extremely satisfying, happy place!

It is quite manageable as a day to day stimulant, don't get me wrong, there are negatives, but maintaining 'normal aspects' of life eg. eating, sleeping, hygiene, health is quite easy once tolerance builds, as you previously hinted at.

Fuck that bath salt shit though bro, much safer and MUCH more enjoyable with pure product...then you're really doing PV!

Just try to resist vaping it though, it's a bit too much fun!

 

[NationalAcrobat]

Cayenne is the best vasodilator out there. Read on it, it is amazing what it could do!! It is also very cheap, you can get a bag of 1lb for less than $10. You can either make capsules of it or just stir it in water (about a spoon) and drink it. Drinking it sucks at first but it's nothing you wont get used to.

I really can't understand how people go through grams of this stuff in just days/hours. 2grms can last me 3-4 months! and I am a daily user. Might be a quality issue? Will never understand this.

 

[xxsicknessxx]

mdpv to me and I have had a lot of exp 9 years. Tried a lot. the worst drug ever.
Most fun, must addicting, most powerfull, most evil, must safe, most scary, most harefull, safest.
really... all of it. Its everything and nothing at the same time and it destoryed my life and yet it also gave me the best time of my life. I hate mdpv and miss it every day.... it messed me up.

good luck

 

[GR33NH34T]

Be careful man I was up for 5 days the last binge I went on and was fully convinced the DEA was about to kick in my door I mean I was fully fucking dillusional. It it with little warning like I went from spun to dillusional really quick.

I second this!! I have had a fairly long street amphetamine habit that ended a couple years ago ... and then tried PV. At first it seemed weak ... like stronger version of ephedrine. Well after several days I started getting a little paranoid ... and before I even knew what was going on I was speeding around on farm roads like a crazy person thinking I was dodging police who were following me. THEN.... I got to work and spent a whole day (12 hrs!!!) running around thinking somebody was spying on me taking pictures of me!!

I went from a little tweaked to completely insane in a matter of 1 hr ... and didnt even do any PV for about 6 hrs before my 'freak-out'!!

Dangerous stuff .... ONLY DO THIS RECREATIONALLY AND IN SMALL AMOUNTS!!!

 

[Scientist7]

Never had paranoia from MDPV? You probably have barely skimmed the water with the substance. A good thing. Paranoia becomes extreme. I really don't get the drug. On first insulflation I became highly euphoric. An hour later my heart was going to explode, and I was calling anyone for a bnzo. Luckily I found one.

I came to the conclusion that for me to use the stuff, I needed to take together with about 1mg klonopin. Otherwise it was scary.

I like to build and work, so I guess I hung with the stuff simply because it keeps me on my feet.

Smoking is good, but a salt needs to be added to a preheated flask with tubing nipple with the base staying about 105c when product drops in. You plug the flask with rubber stopper that has glass tube through stopper running down near product. The tube exits the stopper enough to get your face away from heat. The the flak fills, you pull hit through tube, and displacement air comes through flask nipple on throat. Since you are smoking on a large glass surface that's pre heated by a hot plate, you can stay at lowest temps and see how to conduct the cleanest vapor yield without smoke from burning.

IV use has me worried. I made up a 50mg/1ml MDPV solution through 0.2um wheel filter in 0.9% saline (that's the batch strength not the amount used!), put into sterile vile. This stuff is weird used that that way. Not much rush, but immediate chest tensity, and the IV arm gets tightened feeling. It's as if euphoria is lost via IV route, which makes me wonder about saline solution stability. It worries me to use the vile again after a few days, because who knows what sort of breakdown occurs in this time. I feel afraid without more info on chemical properties of solutions. Should saline even be used to store? I'm running a risky experiment here and I'm about to back far away. This stuff can conquer the weak, and it can limit the strong.

 

[1q2w3e4r5t6y]

Guys, MDPV is basicaly pure crystal meth... ive known people who got addicted but could never admit to it because its a "research chemical"... whatever; if you use MDPV on a regular basis your a meth head. Any first time users should know this.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

I've been using MDPV on a weekend only/annual leave basis for a few months now. Made the switch to smoking/vaping it a couple of months ago and now cannot snort it as it makes me heave. I think i went at the smoking much to hard to start with, heating the oil until it was all black, and inhaling deep lungful after another for several days. I have been advised to stop before it turns black and have been trying to stick to this advice...

However, after quite a heavy binge my breathing became very wheezy, like some kind of fluidy rattle echoing for a few seconds after i had finished exhaling. Not painful but still alarming. Anyway i have tried to me more careful as this obviously isnt good. Over the last week / ten days i have only had one smallish session of smoking PV, but the wheezy rattle returns, and i now get this even after smoking a few cigarretes with no peeve consumed for about 10 days.. I know the advice would be simple "stop smoking peeve you ******* idiot" (thats what im thinking and telling myself). I WILL NOT be ordering anymore once my remaining small stash has been used, i just cant bring myself to flush it...yet...

I was mainly wondering have any other peeve smokers/vapers experienced anything simillar ? Did they stop smoking peeve immediately or carry on regardless ? Did the symptoms get any worse ? Did they clear up quickly if they stopped ?

 

[1q2w3e4r5t6y]

I've been using MDPV on a weekend only/annual leave basis for a few months now. Made the switch to smoking/vaping it a couple of months ago and now cannot snort it as it makes me heave. I think i went at the smoking much to hard to start with, heating the oil until it was all black, and inhaling deep lungful after another for several days. I have been advised to stop before it turns black and have been trying to stick to this advice...

However, after quite a heavy binge my breathing became very wheezy, like some kind of fluidy rattle echoing for a few seconds after i had finished exhaling. Not painful but still alarming. Anyway i have tried to me more careful as this obviously isnt good. Over the last week / ten days i have only had one smallish session of smoking PV, but the wheezy rattle returns, and i now get this even after smoking a few cigarretes with no peeve consumed for about 10 days.. I know the advice would be simple "stop smoking peeve you ******* idiot" (thats what im thinking and telling myself). I WILL NOT be ordering anymore once my remaining small stash has been used, i just cant bring myself to flush it...yet...

I was mainly wondering have any other peeve smokers/vapers experienced anything simillar ? Did they stop smoking peeve immediately or carry on regardless ? Did the symptoms get any worse ? Did they clear up quickly if they stopped ? Should i go see a doctor immediately ? What is the likley cause of this ?

dude, if your concerned about your health than just stop smoking meth.

 

[change-jug]

not to start an argument but I wouldn`t compare mdpv to methamphetamine. I wouldn`t even compare it to levo or dextro amphetamine. Yes, it is a stimulant drug,but mdpv has (at least to me) no where near the euphoria or compulsion to re use as amphetamines do. In fact the crappy side effects of mdpv are so overwhelming that it makes it no where near an enjoyable high. The fact that mdpv is now a class one illegal drug in the States pretty much stripped away the only good thing it had going for it.

 

[Scientist7]

Why is there no euphoria when sustained and micron filtered into a 0.9% saline solution and intravenously used?

The extreme vasoconstriction occurs with rapid heart rate increase instantly, but no come-up or euphoria comes, like insulflation brings. That threw off red flags. Don't IV it.

 

[andrew.wiggin]

I got a 500mg free sample the last time I bought MXE. I'm not really interested on stimulants and I would never ordered MDPV but I got it anyway (not quite sure about how ethical this marketing technique of free drug samples is, but that's another issue) so I decided to give it a try. 5mg snorted. Nothing really interesting. It's very stimulant, yes, but I remember using Ritalin a couple of years ago and it was way more useful for concentration and productivity. This was a couple of months ago. Recently, I had to do a lot of work in the computer but I was having trouble concentrating and also I was feeling very sleepy. So I took MDPV for four days in a row, 5mg snorted in the morning, just before starting to work. It helped with the sleepiness, but not with the concentration. I'd spend the first 30-60 minutes chatting at light-speed, talking to whoever was connected on FB. After that initial rush I'd be able to work properly for 5-6hrs. A beer at the end of the day felt neccesary to let go mental/physical tensions. An uncomfortable tachycardia was present all days and ond day I felt a weird cramp in the head. Nothing I like experiencing. Also, in the last two days I started to get a little bit paranoid; nothing I couldn't handle, but I took that as a warning. Be careful with this stuff...

 

[firstness]

I recently got some Rhodiola rosea 3% rosavin powder which I was planning to take 2x250 mg daily. The Wikipedia article indicates that Rhodiola rosea has MAO inhibition effects, and it's categorized as "Nonselective MAO-A/MAO-B Inhibitor" on the MAOI wiki article. This makes me think about the possibility of dangerous interaction with MDPV because I heard that stimulants and MAO inhibitors do not mix well. Do you think this combination could have dangerous effects?

 

[xxsicknessxx]

not to start an argument but I wouldn`t compare mdpv to methamphetamine. I wouldn`t even compare it to levo or dextro amphetamine. Yes, it is a stimulant drug,but mdpv has (at least to me) no where near the euphoria or compulsion to re use as amphetamines do. In fact the crappy side effects of mdpv are so overwhelming that it makes it no where near an enjoyable high. The fact that mdpv is now a class one illegal drug in the States pretty much stripped away the only good thing it had going for it.

Real pure mdpv is more addicting then coke or meth, with way more euphoria and way more compulsion to re dose. The come down on the pure mdpv is not like the crap mdpv. I know from exp. I had a reliable source for 3 years and It was great, once I lost it I tried other places but I never found mdpv to compare the bad side effects far out weighed the good so I just gave up and quit using it. You can tell from the smell, drip, look, color if your mdpv is good or not.
Real mdpv (pure) the brown thick earthy kind. Is of a class all its own, and if you think its not addicting. Well after 9 year of abusing drugs im 7months sober and mdpv is the one drug I still think about or dream about.
Im telling ya you have not done the pure mdpv if you think its a light weight drug trust me
Anyways Once again if you think mdpv is not ten times as good as other stims then I wager your not getting good mdpv.
Anyone agree or disagree?

 

[alexvolume2]

MDPV remains the darkest stim ever for me. The potency and peripheral side-effects combined with other factors were enough to get me to stop using it. The tan powder was some serious shit. As a former crack, powder cocaine, amphetamine/adderall, methamphetamine user it sent me into a twisted, paranoid, not entirely unenjoyable state for days on end. Compulsive is a lackluster description for it. It beats the hell out of methamphetamie as a sex drug though. Even talking about it makes me all jickey.

 

[negrogesic]

There is no way to really agree or disagree with this degree of subjectively......

Personally, I prefer 'pure' reuptake inhibitors to amphetamines (as a class, including D-METH), with only few exceptions. Cocaine is perhaps my favorite, but it must be over 5 years ago since I toyed with cocaine. I should mention however, that stimulants are far from my 'choice' drug of abuse.

MDPV is, however, to this day, one of the most psychotomimetic stimulants I have used. I am still puzzled as to why the drug elicits such a unique compulsion to re-dose. A primate reward study would be interesting, however based on such reports (and a relative abundance of documented clinical cases), it appears as though a primate 'reward/self-administration' study (albeit, without structure or control) has apparently taken place (primarily in the US).

While somewhat of a tangent; I have noticed some sort of trend after being involved with this site for what is now a decade:

Those who primarily abuse stimulants seem to.....well.....'fade away'..........

Has anyone here seen an individual who has abused methamphetamine for 5-20 years? While rare, I have encountered these individuals, and their medical records are........as disturbing as they are extensive......

 

[Doc Horny]

Whole life is dangerous

-Why must people still wondering that "it is so dangerous,",etc..?I have noticed that it´s not in our
hands how long or short we´re living.I know countless cases about persons who lived so called healthy
life but they have still deceased for cancer or something else illness.
I love that feeling what MDPV causes;no paranoia,or else negativity,just feeling great! No day after´s
bad feelings-maybe little tired only,but that´s only normal if you have stay up for days... "Doc"

 

[Doc Horny]

-Why must people still wondering that "it is so dangerous,",etc..?I have noticed that it´s not in our
hands how long or short we´re living.I know countless cases about persons who lived so called healthy
life but they have still deceased for cancer or something else illness.
I love that feeling what MDPV causes;no paranoia,or else negativity,just feeling great! No day after´s
bad feelings-maybe little tired only,but that´s only normal if you have stay up for days...

My opinion is that it should ordered legally for those persons who are thinking about to kill themselves.

What bad it could be in that if somebody´s get reason to wake up at mornings and get mood to do
something what they´ll really wan´t as long as they´ll not hurt any others ?Is it really wrong
or so bad and dangerous ??? " Doc "

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

We don't do reviews of branded products and the like here.

 

[mister]

So Ive read through this thread and I cant fathom if MDPV is physically dangerous or not. Ive read news reports of people dying from heart attacks and kidney failure but this could be a media beat up.

Can someone here post some conclusive evidence either way please?

PS how does MDPV and GBL mix together? is it a nice combo?