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RCs MDPV mixed with water

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jcool3

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MDPV obviously isn't great to mess take without a milligram scale, but I have a gram on the way and I was wondering if this would work. Take the entire gram the vendor gives me and mix it in with 250ml of water to make the solution 4mg/ml. Then use a ml dropper to dose out what I need. I read this substance is hydrophilic so i imagine it would work quite nicely but I am far from a science major. Any help is appreciated:), and sorry if this information already exists. I searched but didn't find anything.
 
^not a good idea.

MDPV is unstable in aqueous solution and will start degrading instantly.

wiki page says there's a noticeable loss in potency after few hours.
 
^^ thanks for the input, I won't be doing that then. Would you happen to have any suggestions for a guy without a milligram scale for dosing this stuff???
 
Buy a scale?

If you can afford a drug active in the milligram range you can afford ~$30 to drop on a scale. You should not be working with these chemicals if you can't dose them properly.
 
villian said:
Buy a scale?

If you can afford a drug active in the milligram range you can afford ~$30 to drop on a scale. You should not be working with these chemicals if you can't dose them properly.
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I most definitely can afford one but I am paranoid that I will get caught with a scale, leading to distribution assumptions by LE. I have never bought a scale and never will. Don't let my post count fool you, I've been roaming around this site for 3 years, I'm just mostly into sourcing boards. So now all i'm looking for is great ideas on how to dose this stuff without a scale properly, given that I have one gram in a bag there has to be a way to do this. Maybe some sort of solution that does not lead to degradation of the chemical that I can dose using the same concept I started with?
 
Hi. My MDVP came yesterday and my scale is coming today. Of course I couldnt wait to try so heres what I did. I sniffed the smallest "piece" I could seperate and waited 20 mins. I noticed a slight stimulation, so I did another equally small amount which got me going pretty good. I'm not sure how many mg it was, but prob 1 or 2. Just do incredibly tiny amounts spaced out over time so u don't overdo it. You shouldnt get in any trouble for ordering a mg scale. You could be a jewler for all anyone knows.:)
 
I do not know of MDPV's stability in water but I thought I would mention that shooting an mdpv solution up one's nose provides an almost instant onset of the drug. Scary stuff, even scarier when referred to as a bath salt....
 
AGH!

Whats with people that can't even spell M-D-P-V buying and worse yet attempting to dose this stuff? MD PV PV PV, not VP. NOT VP. NOT VP. /end rant

Anyways, like mentioned above, MDPV will rapidly degrade in solution. Especially in water. On top of that, there is no way (without a scale) to know if your vendor actually sent you 250mg, they may have sent you more, or they may have sent you less. If this was the case, you would be setting yourself up to continually over or under dose your doses. Which could lead to some very troubling situations, considering the chemical were talking about.
 
oh, glad I didnt make a typo that sent someone on a meth rant.....i had to double check both of my spellings ;) PEEVEEE!
 
I meant any sort of speedy rant....md-PV definitely falls into that category!

P.S......nice profile pic!!!
 
If your scared of owning a scale then why are you tampering with drugs ? If you want to experiment with Research chemicals such as MPDV. You can't get placed on distribution charges just because you have a set of scales you do need a copious amount of drug as well. Its why I never have a stash in my house of a single chemical above a gram.

Get a scale and if your not an idiot you won't get caught anyway. Police have better things to do.
 
Newbierock said:
^ your telling me you've never kept above a gram of weed in your house? :p
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Thats a little different, though. And technically, he probably hasn't ever had over a gram of any of the cannabinoids present in weed.

I often smoke a gram of weed in one joint. Much more than a gram of weed in a blunt. No measurement is required, and at the very most, if I was smoking a bowl, I might have to... rip the nug in half.

Even if I had a pound of weed, picking out a bowls worth would be pretty simple, and at worst I might pack a very large bowl, getting me very comfortably stoned ;)

MDPV's sensible dosage range rests around 3 - 10mg. Meaning 1/100 of a gram is the higher end of the range. Try accurately picking out 10mg from 1000mg of crumbly, flakey powder. Its not easy or safe. And it doesn't help that even slightly under-measured doses of MDPV can send one barreling into psychosis for a day or two.
 
The fact that some compound is hydrophilic means its molecules have a tendency to conjoin with water molecules. It doesn't equal "water soluble". Hydrophilic compounds must have a big dipole moment or must contain some functional groups that have a big dipole moments.

MDPV has a carbonyl group in which oxygen pulls electron density from carbon atom and the bond is more polar, so the carbon atom in this group is electrophilic = is more reactive with nucleophiles. This also explains why e.g. cathinone is not stable in water.
 
I'd suspect LE would be more concerned if you had kilogram scales at your house than milligram scales, but ya never really know until they're gone and have left a bill.

I can't stress it enough - Get An Accurate Milligram Scale. My Sharona didn't listen to anyone or anything she'd read on the 'nets, thought she knew better, could estimate from grains of salt, or from pictures on the 'net...

This was back in the days of 'net easy-available twoceeye...soon found that she'd been measuring out the caps at 55 mg., at the least. And ya only need 24mg or so for full effect, acording to that old ruskie guy who invented it...luckily that wasn't an overt stimulant like this MDPV is which could trigger hypertensive problems or worse - a 24 hr-long jittery experience that might turn one off to the finer points percievable at much smaller doses. Turned out that much twoceeye was a sorta-mistake for ol' Sharona as it left her quite the twitchy mess for 10 hrs or so, a little too much maybe for a first try. But she got over it...and got a scale.
 
wtf^

Can't people construct normal sentences around here?

Makes things a nuisance to read when they put, apparently, their own idiosyncratic spellings/abbreviations expecting everyone to know what they are on about.
 
Harambulus said:
wtf^

Can't people construct normal sentences around here?

Makes things a nuisance to read when they put, apparently, their own idiosyncratic spellings/abbreviations expecting everyone to know what they are on about.
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I'm all for discouraging the use of obscure abbreviations, but the only two he used were LE and MDPV

MDPV = MethyleneDioxyPyroValerone... The documented, excepted chemical abbreviation for the compound.

LE = Law Enforcement (while not official, I would think its wide-spread enough to avoid warranting a shit attitude response)
 
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