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MDPV Megathread 7: ektamine, we all approve and miss you

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Ha! Too true dat, Bulby. I had a conversation lasting a full 72 hours with the fella in the corner. Sneaky sod never showed his face but held up his end of the discussion most effectively. Part of me knew perfectly well that the corner of me room probably hadn't actually become both sentient and malicious but most of me knew it had. I recall it got especially pissed off and rowdy when I said it probably looked like a spotty junior manager in an oversized C&A suit.

Only real visual hallucinations I get are kinda liquid rippling patterns on most surfaces which are rather pleasant and non-threatening. One exception I recall vividly was when stars started turning into giant space invaders and then proceeded to dive bomb me. Was quite fun to be honest :D
 
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Can or are the more sane users of PV more capable of controlling psychotic episodes,like they think odd things but can laugh/shrug them off?

I am a bit mental,not violent,more hurting and worrying people through my own stupidity,some of it due to mentalism.

I had an episode with PV,the usual crap involving spying,cameras,people planting things,or people planting people as plants to spy. I was round mr xxx house and was accusing everyone of being in some sort of plot to bring me down,ruin me,ridicule me. I actually started to wonder if people were real. The guy across the road was the main controller and had cctv for every movement i made. My eyes were slowly scanning every object to find out where the devices were. Someone made a phonecall to a very experienced drug user asking for advice about my deluded state,of course,that was a code for "he's twigged on to the devices". The guy actually said there is nothing you can do,just try to keep me calm,benzos or as a last resort ambulance.

So there i was sat with friends and neighbours trying there best to help me reminiscing about good times. I just sat there tensed up and very frightened by this time i could only answer in grunts.

As the hours passed my delusional state slowly started to diminish and i managed to grab somewhat broken shuteye.

The following day i felt a lot better and very embarrassed. Apologies were made "forget it,don't worry",they all know me. Took about a week to feel myself (not masturbate),mentally. Normal,the word,makes no sence.

I have battered the fuck out of meph,i think 4mec,b2 whatever it is and have never suffered true psychosis,Just the odd twinge.I think it's the lack of sleep that plays with your mind than the drug itself APART FROM MDPV!

Needless to say,there will be no further useage and i only used it a couple of times, though recklessly.Can more long time users learn to control these kinds of episodes. Definitely on my NEVER DO AGAIN LIST.
 
I seriously doubt any peevee binger has anything much in the way of real control over the loonytunes stuff whilst in the midst of it. Not as such anyway. Peev is just nutsopowder for more or less everybody who uses it at all heavily (or lightly for that matter).

However, practice makes perfect so you go in to a run knowing what's gonna happen - and what will happen is precisely as you describe it. I think the difference is that it stops being scary when you know what to expect. It actually becomes a helluva lotta fun seeing just how far out there you can get. You can kinda play with your own sanity (and temporary lack thereof) rather than being overly concerned about it. That's not to say you don't still become totally immersed in wild-eyed madmanland - it's just that it isn't much of a problem anymore cos it's familiar territory.

I can honestly say that some of the most magical "trips" I've had have been on peev runs. Although paranoia is fairly ineveitible there are also times when it's just like living in a world of wonderous weirdness, madcap marvels and ludicrous lunacy. The Night of the Many Cats is an experience I'll never forget - wouldn't have missed for the world and simply could never happen on any other substance.

Peev is a wild beast for sure but can definitely be tamed.
 
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Blimey,never realised PV caused you so much bother. I reckon you are correct,i suppose those who are more familiar with it realise when "there may be troubles ahead",you know that song by some one.

As for pv,i certainly remember feeling hypersexual but completety unable to achieve an erection apart on a couple of early PV sniffs. I think by the time i'd finished my cock resembled an acorn.
 
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Sounds a tad hippyish to me. Norepinephrine when released in high enough amounts stimulates the amygdala by binding to the adrenergic receptors as well as increasing blood flow in that area of the brain which is at least partly responsible for the classic stress response. Anxiety is a cocktail of chemicals triggering mechanisms in the brain and body. There is no body/mind duality. It's all one. There are quite a few emerging scientific experiments which can actually predict decision making in humans using simple tests purely by looking at activation of certain parts of the brain. They can tell you want you're going to choose before it manifests itself as a conscious thought. Thought is a result of brain chemistry, it's physical, although you can to an extent use techniques to control those reactions.
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Well said dude, I'm a science guy too and I can see that you've got some serious knowledge. I have to say that MDPV is only really interesting to me as a scientific phenomenon. I love my drugs for both the experience and the insight into the pharmacology both. MDPV actually scared the shit out of me because i couldn't relate it to any other drug i'd done - and I've near done every drug there is going (obviously exlude the gazillion phenethylamines and tryptamines that only people like shulgin have actually ever tried) , and certainly nearly every stim. This thing screams of norepinephrine to me, much more than dopamine – and in addition, i kinda got the feeling that it might be excitotoxic. Maybe that last bit is bullshit, and there obviously are lots of dudes on this forum who have gone on serious binges with it and don't seem to have burned their brains out. In a funny round about way, it even reminds me of some anticholinergic drugs i've taken before, that are derived from hyoscine or scopolamine. Really creeped me out this stuff did for sure. Maybe, its just a molecule that different people metabolise in different ways and I'm one of those that end up with lots of really nasty metabolites or something. Who knows. Loved your post though man.:)
 
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If it were excitotoxic then there'd be considerably more braindead zombies staggering about EADDland in a hazydaze of mindmelted confusion than there currently are I can assure you ;)

I was always under the impression that peev was notable for many things with one particular example of said things being its shocking lack of toxicity. Shocking incident of sending folks batshit, yes. Shocking level of toxicity, no.
 
Is this cos G is some sort of vasodiltor? or are you both just lucky men. As i spend most of my time on stims masturbating,i only ever once climaxed on a two or three sniff of peev,then it goes rapidly downhill. The orgasm however took me by surprise and i shot my man goo all over myself,i normally roll to the side at climax on to a rag. G is great for sex though. Didn't get the chance to try the both together.
 
If it were excitotoxic then there'd be considerably more braindead zombies staggering about EADDland in a hazydaze of mindmelted confusion than there currently are I can assure you
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Yeah you gotta be right man. I guess that was just the mad anxiety i got off it made me paranoid that I was burning my brain out. Its funny, after reading the bender you guys got upto it sort of makes me wanna get back in there. I had some seriously fucking good highs off it when i mixed it with enough gbl to stop my jaw from totally reconfiguring itself. I just couldn't get my head around how the paranoia just wouldn't quit, for like 3 fucking days even after small doses. I was mixing it with DXM though too man and that shit is fucking epic as we all know.
 
Mixing with DXM? Eeek! Never gotten around to DXM but it's not a combo that sounds overly pleasant to be honest. I don't find peev is much of a combo thang really. Other than with geebee, obviously. That truly is a match made in heaven. Helps with the anxiety too... just so long as you aren't so zoned out you forget to take your geebee dose regularly enough and get the double-whammy paranoiac freakery 8o

Some also favour benzos as a mixer for similar reasons. I prefer geebee meself but can see the appeal of benzos. Same goes for booze, I suppose. Anything to bash that GABA into order seems to do the trick.
 
Anything to bash that GABA into order seems to do the trick.
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Yeah man its all about the GABA for sure. Valiums helped a bit when i was on the peev and that was all i had in terms of benzo's but if i had my way i'd even out the peev with a bit of gbl and some heavier benzo like a lorazepam or maybe even a zolpidem. Really tho man, i have to admit i just bottled it with that stuff. That said when i was givin it a go, i had a job that just was real fucking hard to hold down on drugs at the best of times and there was lots of other unwelcome calamities happening about that time too so i guess it wasn't the time or the place. ha
 
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Shammy said:
Mixing with DXM? Eeek!.
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Yep, peevee with any dissociative is an express ride to losing the plot, with a side dish of galloping megalomania. Peevee & angel dust... sounds somewhat foolhardy, but the first 12-16 hours is great. I't just the following 48 hours of being a serious fruitloop that tarnishes the whole thing! In fact peevee and any PCP derivative (PCE, 3-MeO PCP etc) will do the job; slight differences to each, but the core crazy experience is remarkably similar.

I did it all in the name of scientific enquiry and a search for the truth (sounds better than I abandoned all common sense and wanted to know how twisted things could get... =D)
 
why are the mdpv megatreats in europe and africa section?
do the US and rest of the world use bathsalt megathreads?
 
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why are the mdpv megatreats in europe and africa section?
do the US and rest of the world use bathsalt megathreads?
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Because over here we tend hit it so damn hard it ends in psychotic breaks, and some of us post essays about it. Not quite as bad as the meph one, that got to over 40 megathreads IIRC.
 
I was wondering the same thing. Are there anybody who still uses MDPV? I've skimmed through the megathreads and reached the following conclusions:

1. The first "tan" batch was the best (and also probably not real MDPV) due to its intense effects on sexual arousal and perversity. Current "white" or "pure" MDPV is regarded as a fairly clean stimulant but without the "magical" perversity of the tan.

2. MDPV is active orally at <5mg in stimulant-naive subjects.

3. The duration of effect is approximately 5-8 hours for a single dose, however any redose will push that into 12-18 hours of insomnia.

4. Possession of more than a single dose of MDPV is nearly guaranteed to end in a weekend of binging and receiving alien radio broadcasts. Thus anyone who has had MDPV has quickly reached "rock bottom" and consequently quit using MDPV altogether.

I'm curious because I've recently found out how much I enjoy the odd stimulant now and then (M1, 4-FA) and I'm cautiously exploring this insanely potent MDPV. Is it really possible to use MDPV functionally like other stimulants (see prescription d-amp) or does it always spiral into abuse and fail time?

EDIT: I guess I should post my first experience with the PeeVee. I weighed out 5mg into a gelcap and consumed orally with a sandwich. Over the next hour I noticed stimulation, but nothing near the euphoria or sexual enhancement that 4-FA at 70mg gives me. So I measured out another 5mg and insufflated that. I intended to experiment with the masturbatory pleasures, but ended up helping someone write an essay instead, and I definitely noticed my thoughts become loquacious and voluminous in the standard mode of most stimulants. But not much euphoria present. Decent appetite suppression, didn't get a chance to check blood pressure or heart rate though. Later in the day (T+8h) I developed a moderate headache centered in the left front of the cranium that cannabis did not alleviate. So I took two Tylenol #1 (total 700mg APAP, 30mg caffeine, 16mg codeine) and slept well.

Does the white MDPV have any potential for sexy times or has that all been lost with the legend of the tan PV?
 
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