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MDPV Megathread 7: ektamine, we all approve and miss you

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Has anyone noticed an increase in quality of the white MDPV going around? I'm going to be purchasing some within the week and I'm kind of hoping that it's a new batch that's actually MDPV like in the tan.

Thoughts?
 
MDPV Quality

Hey guys.

First, I've been reading over the many MDPV megathreads in EADD and I've just come out more confused. I've UTFSE too.

I'm going to be receiving some MDPV from a EU vendor, and I've just found out it is going to be white. In the past, I've heard of the white MDPV being either extremely cut MDPV or not MDPV at all. Now, seeing as how those posts were from 2008/2009, I'm curious as to what recent batches have been like. I'm basically asking user's experiences with white, and if the quality has increased at all. Is this stuff worth it at all?

Thanks in advance.
 
Yeah, sending it in for GC/MS testing would be ideal. I'm looking for subjective experiences, really. A few years back, there was tan MDPV and white 'MDPV'. The former was said to be legit, and the latter supposedly took twice to three times as much product for effect, and even when that was taken into account there was dispute as to whether or not it was actually MDPV at all. Does pillreports.com even do tests on powders? I'm under the impression they will only deal with pills.
 
I would not say the white MDPV which i had been getting recently from EU sources seemed extremely cut. It was possibly slightly cut and certainly not as potent as the tan stuff weight for weight. I thought this stuff had been completely outlawed everywhere in the EU now and didnt know that there will still any EU vendors offering this stuff in anything but semi-bulk amounts. An idea which i will not entertain. Are you able to purchase smallish amounts ? (Apologies to the mods if im straying into disallowed territories here)

If so I will have to start searching again. Although i was supposed to have quit this stuff, i wouldnt mind one last gram. My mental health has improved a lot in the last couple of weeks as ive had a fair break from the stuff now, so i reckon i can afford to batter it a bit more again now. 8(

I would say that the white required about 10 % more in weight to equal the effects of the tan. So its not been all that bad atall.
 
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Let's try this in EADD but it's up to their staff's discretion was is done with this ;)




OD>>>EADD
 
Let's try this in EADD but it's up to their staff's discretion was is done with this ;)

OD>>>EADD

What's that us euros are the official Bluelight pv-heads? Brilliant!!

We can't really say anything about quality as vendor discussion is not allowed here, unless we knew the source there's no way we could make an assessment of the purity of the product you bought, nor whether it's actually pv. I know the stuff in the EU is usually very good and uncut as it's still completely legal in most of Europe, at least on the continent except for Scandinavia, Ireland, the UK and some Eastern European countries.

I've had cut pv in the US in the form of bath salts and the European stuff is much much more potent by weight, I've also had some allegedly pure stuff in the US, which had been clearly adulterated

All I can say is start really low and build up the dose gradually it's amazing how little you need when you don't have a tolerance, always wait a few hours before re-dosing. Be careful as it's extremely compulsive, especially if you decide to chase it off foil.

In my guess it's going to be very good, be careful as the euphoria is an acquired taste, there's a good chance you might not enjoy it but still keep on doing for days on end. Keep in mind that less is more with the stuff, I don't if you have scales but be careful not to over do it. You might have read posts from myself and others here in EADD talking about the silly industrial amounts we were doing, but mind that tolerance build a lot with this material, so as a first timer you have to start slowly.

To be honest I never really felt that much difference with different batches from various EU sources, and I've tried quite a few throughout the years, some types felt more edgy and some others were more enjoyable and relaxed, but I'm not a supporter of batch nerdyness and I think that the differences you feel are due more to diet, supplements and other drug consumption, mind state, set and setting, stress levels, sleep deprivation and so on. As I've had different effects even from the same batches.

Some people might have had a shitty week at work, then do some pv on the friday, get paranoid and edgy and then blame it on the batch. I can definately feel that there's some factors that influence my high, Rhodiola Rosea makes it more euphoric and relaxed, some strains of kratom mix really well and make it way more enjoyable, while some others (like Thai) make me a shaky mess and boost the paranoia.

Passiflora Incarnata and valerian root extracts taken before chill me out and make the effect more euphoric and recreational, especially when you preload with them for a few days in a row, they won't be able to calm you down if you take too much pv but can put you in a more relaxed state of mind, which in turn makes you feel better effects and takes away some of the compulsiveness.

Daily Omega 3 for me is a must for blood circulation and heart health, also I convinced myself that they prevent palpitation, I swear I've never felt that much heart palpitations since I've been taking them daily.

Remember to move around once in a while, especially if you're sitting at the computer for long hours while you do it, trust me you will, keep well hydrated, keep a bottle of water next to you to drink as if you get involved into something, watching porn, posting on bluelight, there's a good chance you'll spend a lot of hours sitting in the same position and not moving.

I hope this helps a bit, if you have more questions feel free to ask, I hope other committed pvers(I know we have a few) will post their valuable inputs as well, unfortunately one of the funnier local PV heads(Shambles) has been MIA for quite a while.
 
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Thanks for the move, Cane, I was debating posting it in EADD, but for whatever reason OD won that debate.

And thanks to you as well, Kenny; I'm definitely prone to all the downfalls of tweakerhood thanks to amphetamine and company, and a reminder of them is always welcomed. My stimulant experience includes d/l-amphetamine, methamphetamine, cocaine and methyphenidate; Considering my experiences with stimulant drugs, are there any characteristics unique to MDPV that are likely to catch my attention, eg Vassoconstriction, concentration, muscle spasm,et cetera?

I know, the phrase on the tips of your tongues is ''Take the plunge and find out for yourself'' I blame the mailman. He's holding out on me.
 
shut up, PV head.

Are you referring to my long post? I was trying to be helpful to the other geezer you know.

To Venrak:

Well one difference with amphetamines is that at the mental level, PV provides a different type of stimulation, at least for me, I don't find it that useful for improving productivity or mental work, I mean it's nowhere as useful as small doses of d-amp for work or writing essays.

It doesn't seem to make me sharper intellectually, while on amps I always feel like I have some extra mental abilities, I've done pv at the office while drafting projects and reports and I have to say it didn't really help that much, maybe just made faster but didn't improve the quality of my work at all.

Also PV doesn't make me more confident at all, it actually makes me very socially awkward, even in small doses, not good for chatting people up.
 
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My stimulant experience includes d/l-amphetamine, methamphetamine, cocaine and methyphenidate; Considering my experiences with stimulant drugs, are there any characteristics unique to MDPV that are likely to catch my attention, eg Vassoconstriction, concentration, muscle spasm,et cetera?

Yes, it's much more addictive than all that other stuff, especially when vaped.
 
...To Venrak:

Well one difference with amphetamines is that at the mental level, PV provides a different type of stimulation, at least for me, I don't find it that useful for improving productivity or mental work, I mean it's nowhere as useful as small doses of d-amp for work or writing essays.

It doesn't seem to make me sharper intellectually, while on amps I always feel like I have some extra mental abilities, I've done pv at the office while drafting projects and reports and I have to say it didn't really help that much, maybe just made faster but didn't improve the quality of my work at all.

Also PV doesn't make me more confident at all, it actually makes me very socially awkward, even in small doses, not good for chatting people up.

Considering how you say it doesn't seem to make you feel more mentally sharp and the quality of intellectual tasks doesn't seem to be affected, would you say reaction time, concentration, multitasking to be impacted positively or negatively?

As for how it didn't provide a confidence boost or act as a social lubricant, I'm disappointed as I suffer from social anxiety and the amphetamine class of stimulants always help patch that up.

Yes, it's much more addictive than all that other stuff, especially when vaped.

I'll definitely try to stick to intranasal and rectal dosing then, as I fell into addiction with other stimulants quite strongly. I'll most likely end up experimenting with vaporization at some point anyway.
 
A friend of mine says it cures his social anxiety, for me it was never a help. If you experiment with vaping, you won't ever go back, trust me. Also, I don't see the value in rectal/nasal admin with this one, as sublingual dosing works great and hits just as fast.
 
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Ohhh I don't know I kinda miss the 3-4 day benders full of paranoia and strange voices, noises and outright psychosis.

I always prefered vaping or sublingual but its personal thing as is the experinace :\

But yeah OP MDPV is a very strong stimulant with unless you have really highly levels (and I really mean high) and a good set of Mg scales I'd leave it well alone.

However I've just noticed you already have the stuff on order, how much have you ordered ?, When I used to use a UK vendor sold in 100Mg bags which was handy for me as i have zero self control. If you have ordered a gram which seems likely , I'd start with about 4 mgs and don't redose for at least an hour I'd also have no more than 100Mgs in you possession, post it to yourself if you have to but being in position of a full G of decent MDPV can turn quite ...twisted
 
Well i just recently discovered on here that MDPV is still widely available throughout the EU. I had assumed that since the 2 EU vendors i had been using had effectively dried up then that was the end of it, full stop. Wrong ! It just shows you have to "keep your ears close the ground" in this game.

I was very easily able to find 3 new EU PV vendors last night, one of them was linked to via a drug source discussion forum, and has a solid reputation. I had intended to quit the stuff, but the fiending devil in me is kind of out-manouvering the sensible part of me at the moment and persuading me to get one last gram, so i will probably give in to temptation.

It has been very encouraging to see how quickly my mental health has been restored after just a couple of weeks break from PV though. The nagging worry/anxiety/paranoia/self consciousness has faded. Self-confidence, happiness, peace of mind, humour & laughter has returned. I didnt realise how much they had all suffered, it must have been due to the PV. Anyway its good to see how quickly you can bounce back, provided you dont push things too far. (I made that mistake in my teens, so at least i have learnt from that and now i kind of know when im pushing things too far, and can recognise when my thinking is getting deranged)
 
I'm going to very politely ask you quite with the vendor patter folks. And merge the mdpv quality thread into this one, there not need for another - lets keep the megathreads on topic.

Quality is a subjective thing -so lets not get bogged down on what is quality from whatever vendor.
 
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