MDPV Megathread 6: neko's cum guzzling cock juggling extravaganza!!

[ektamine]

Fuck the police btw, unless they're apart of LEAP.

I agree, 'fuck the police' has been my nightly prayer since I was about 14

And thanks for mentioning LEAP, I'd never heard of them before. I really would love to meet and converse with some of these cops, they sound like interesting/decent/smart people.

1. LEAP does not promote the use of drugs and is deeply concerned about the extent of drug abuse worldwide. LEAP is also deeply concerned with the destructive impact of violent drug gangs and cartels everywhere in the world. Neither problem is remedied by the current policy of drug prohibition. Indeed, drug abuse and gang violence flourish in a drug prohibition environment, just as they did during alcohol prohibition.

 

[SmokeaJoint]

Yeah man, any group of cops who realizes prohibition is a failure is WINNING in my book.

 

[ektamine]

^ It's interesting... at least where I live (liberal-topia), it seems like the cops/LEO's that work with drug-addicts for long periods of time usually come to the conclusion that the system is dysfunctional and harmful to society. It's just that for most of them, there is absolutely nothing they can do about it. There job is simply to arrest people for breaking laws, not for 'doing wrong'.

None-the-less most cops are still douchebags, but thats my 2cents.

 

[Dedbeet]

Starting to look forward to the peevee (should be coming in tomorrow )... that's half the fun, looking forward to getting it. It's never as much "all that" as u think it will be, but oh well...

 

[ektamine]

^ I used to get soooo anxious when I'd have PV in the mail... The hours would drag on for everrrr and I wouldn't be able to sleep at night I'd be so excited.

druqkz

 

[cops4rizzle]

heh, i waited more than a month for my latest delivery, due to easter postal madness & being in the middle of nowhere for a while...the cravings were unreal, was absolutely gagging for it by the time it came!

the extent to which i like this drug is kinda worrying in fact....oh well, make hay while the sun shines i say:D

 

[Dedbeet]

^ I used to get soooo anxious when I'd have PV in the mail... The hours would drag on for everrrr and I wouldn't be able to sleep at night I'd be so excited.

druqkz

Droooooooooogs, dude .

the extent to which i like this drug is kinda worrying in fact....oh well, make hay while the sun shines i say:D

Yah, same here... it's gonna do what it's gonna do to my body. As long as I'm not quite ready to quit, it's pointless to worry about it, I figure. Nothing dumber than worrying about something as you do it, really .

 

[ektamine]

Nothing dumber than worrying about something as you do it, really .

lol, words of truth my friend

 

[SmokeaJoint]

Especially when you have no intention to change.

 

[Dedbeet]

^^ True... and really, you don't need any intent to quit a habit. Although it may not be easy, there's nothing on earth simpler: You just never lift your hand/pipe to your nose, mouth, etc. again. I guess intent is involved in a way, at least as far as remembering that you weren't gonna do it, and not doing it.

In any case, as far as Dedbeet goes, I'm just trying to be honest with myself... don't really want to quit PV completely at the present time. Probably when it's banned/scheduled, I will.

 

[cops4rizzle]

Yah, same here... it's gonna do what it's gonna do to my body. As long as I'm not quite ready to quit, it's pointless to worry about it, I figure. Nothing dumber than worrying about something as you do it, really .

wise words imo - for me, the only way to use this drug is excessively & while abandoning the illusion of control....moderate use would leave me ultimately unsatisfied. Buy the ticket, take the ride, pv does not do things by half. And worrying is dumb in any situation - what happens happens & besides the consequences are rarely as bad as you think they will be.

That said, while I'm hoping this is a passing phase I can see the glimmerings of a long-term addiction here...stims of this nature are just a perfect match for my personality type (ie they give me the extroversion & motivation i naturally lack, without the aggressive ego-boost of cocaine that I can't stand), can anyone relate?

But hey, life's an experience & most all experiences are worth having imo. if i
didn't go overboard on stimulants, i'd spend the rest of my life wondering what it would've been like to go overboard on stimulants...

Btw Dedbeet, you're a fairly long-term user, right? What physical damage has it done to you exactly? Do you think you'd be in a worse state if you'd been using, say, meth or coke all this time instead? I'm worried about weight loss more than anything, I'm all skin & bone even when I eat normally....but physical damage from stimulants is generally reversible right?

Wow, got all philosophical for a minute... Time for another line? Mmmmm yes please :D

 

[Dedbeet]

wise words imo - for me, the only way to use this drug is excessively & while abandoning the illusion of control....moderate use would leave me ultimately unsatisfied. Buy the ticket, take the ride, pv does not do things by half. And worrying is dumb in any situation - what happens happens & besides the consequences are rarely as bad as you think they will be.

That said, while I'm hoping this is a passing phase I can see the glimmerings of a long-term addiction here...stims of this nature are just a perfect match for my personality type (ie they give me the extroversion & motivation i naturally lack, without the aggressive ego-boost of cocaine that I can't stand), can anyone relate?

But hey, life's an experience & most all experiences are worth having imo. if i
didn't go overboard on stimulants, i'd spend the rest of my life wondering what it would've been like to go overboard on stimulants...

Btw Dedbeet, you're a fairly long-term user, right? What physical damage has it done to you exactly?

I'm actually not a long-term, steady user... more like a long-term, very irregular user. I've only been using it semi regularly since January or so. So far I've lost some weight and that's about it. My circulation may be getting worse too, it's hard to say... the PV may be screwing up my circulatory system gradually. Kind of hard to tell, but there are hints it may be true. Seems like every time I use it, I get symptoms that are a little more obvious.

Do you think you'd be in a worse state if you'd been using, say, meth or coke all this time instead?

No... although that's kind of irrelevant, to be honest. But no, I think I'd be worse off if it were meth or coke.

P.S. everyone's different, but for me the only way I can be cool with using MDPV is to be as honest about it as possible. That way if something happens I can say "Well, I was honest with myself about it the whole time... I had a good idea of the risks, and I used it anyway".

Peace...

 

[cops4rizzle]

Ah I see...when you were an irregular user, did you crave it much when it wasn't around? Cos during my month's hiatus in April I sure as hell did and at that point 2g over the prior 2 months was my entire history of use...how much am I gonna crave it after 10, 20g? (that's a rhetorical qn btw, I don't actually want to know the answer!)

Fuck it, I'm just gonna sit back and obverse what happens from a dispassionate academic perspective (or try anyway) - doubt it'll be boring at any rate :D

 

[Up And DOWN]

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That said, while I'm hoping this is a passing phase I can see the glimmerings of a long-term addiction here...stims of this nature are just a perfect match for my personality type (ie they give me the extroversion & motivation i naturally lack, without the aggressive ego-boost of cocaine that I can't stand), can anyone relate?

i completely agree with you man, i stay up for days and days. just dosed up for the first time in a few... ready to go for the ride.

 

[Dedbeet]

Fuck it, I'm just gonna sit back and obverse what happens from a dispassionate academic perspective (or try anyway) - doubt it'll be boring at any rate :D

Dispassion and unattachment are definitely not as bad as they sound... ask a buddhist . Life is too short to be attached to it, IMO.

 

[Rusted Chains]

Starting to look forward to the peevee (should be coming in tomorrow )... that's half the fun, looking forward to getting it. It's never as much "all that" as u think it will be, but oh well...

Sometimes doing it is as much fun as looking forward to getting it. You never know if it's gonna be the same "stuff", even from the same supplier. Sometimes the quality is better than you expected and that's what makes it fun...at least at first.

Well, ended up re-ordering and am pleasantly surprised. Found a new source thanks in part to Dedbeet, and couldn't be happier. (Gotta give credit where it's due) Thanks Mr. Dedbeet!

 

[cops4rizzle]

Dispassion and unattachment are definitely not as bad as they sound... ask a buddhist . Life is too short to be attached to it, IMO.

Yep I am very much a fan of the Buddha's teachings myself, and though i don't think he'd recommend mdpv as a path to enlightenment (personally i would advocate the lysergic route) I think it there is value in the experience (otherwise I wouldn't do it - would I?)

This is starting to sound like a P&S thread :D8)

 

[cops4rizzle]

No... although that's kind of irrelevant, to be honest. But no, I think I'd be worse off if it were meth or coke.

P.S. everyone's different, but for me the only way I can be cool with using MDPV is to be as honest about it as possible. That way if something happens I can say "Well, I was honest with myself about it the whole time... I had a good idea of the risks, and I used it anyway".

Missed this somehow - why do you say it's irrelevant? Surely the less physical damage the better, under any circumstances, no? Then again meth doesn't exist where I live, thank god...in these parts when i hear 'meth' it's usually someone mispronouncing meph 8)

Agreed with the honesty - you need to go in with two eyes open, that's for sure. I'm gonna try and set a limit, something like one 'run' a week, and 48hrs per run max and see if i can make that work. I'll stop beating myself up now, the reason I do pv is to have a good time!

Found a new source thanks in part to Dedbeet, and couldn't be happier. (Gotta give credit where it's due) Thanks Mr. Dedbeet!

I think we're all bad influences on each other in this thread

 

[Dedbeet]

Yep I am very much a fan of the Buddha's teachings myself, and though i don't think he'd recommend mdpv as a path to enlightenment (personally i would advocate the lysergic route) I think it there is value in the experience (otherwise I wouldn't do it - would I?)

This is starting to sound like a P&S thread :D8)

He might recommend it, who knows! If anything, a substance that makes you contemplate life, death, desire and fear, harm and safety, control and lack of control, is touching on the biggest and most sensitive issues that affect the human being.

Acid touches on other issues, which are valid within their own sphere... but fwiw, I think MDPV's are just as valid. *Anything can be a path to enlightenment*, because what we're speaking of is nearer than one's own skin.

I think we're all bad influences on each other in this thread

Naah . No one is influence by anything they don't want to be influenced by on some level.

Peace...

 

[cops4rizzle]

He might recommend it, who knows! If anything, a substance that makes you contemplate life, death, desire and fear, harm and safety, control and lack of control, is touching on the biggest and most sensitive issues that affect the human being.

Acid touches on other issues, which are valid within their own sphere... but fwiw, I think MDPV's are just as valid. *Anything can be a path to enlightenment*, because what we're speaking of is nearer than one's own skin.

Peace...

I agree with you actually, for the most part - I was just pointing out the obvious, that stimulants aren't generally associated with spiritual development (probably the opposite in most people's minds), not that that matters at all of course. And I think every experience ever experienced is valid, if it is perceived as real by the observer/participant (hell, i expect most people here would think i was a nut if I told them half of what I had to say about dissociatives...)

btw we're conveniently overlooking the fact that buddhism prohibited intoxicants (though i don't think buddha was familiar with psychedelics - have always wondered what he would have made of acid or mdma), but i think it's a mistake to subscribe to any one spiritual doctrine anyway - finding wisdom in the words of buddha doesn't make one a buddhist...

Anyway I think spiritual use of stimulants is a fascinating, much underlooked (& controversial!) topic & agree with much (not all) of what you say. I could go on for days (literally) but don't want to clutter this thread with my ramblings! I might wander over to P&S...

Naah . No one is influence by anything they don't want to be influenced by on some level.

Touche.