is it anything like having a weird jolt of anxiety when you hear a sharp sound?What does it mean when you've been hearing someone running a chainsaw outside for the past 48 straight hours straight?
Fwiw, I'm about at the "is this doing anything worthwhile? That's a damn good question" stage, but haven't gone beyond it yet. Is it fun walking by an empty bathroom and hearing the "dinnnng" of a bell inside, shit like that? Well, it's kinda interesting, dontcha knowMan, when it gets to the point that I cook freebase or do lines just for the sake of being awake, thats when my brain stats going "Dude, your not getting high off this anymore. Quit wasting drugs and money, go to bed."
I figure everyone reacts to it differently, so this post of course is meant to reflect only my own experience. The shit is just too goddamn powerful and simultaneously moreish when smoked, meaning you're in a state of continual dopamine overload/borderline psychosis from start to finish.
To be honest on reflection there is no real joy in pv, and the old megathreads where people often describe it as not being a recreational drug are right really. You can bully it into being one, but it bites back. Turns you into a complete parahead and it's only ever good at the time. I can't really say any of my insane pv binges were actually worth it.
A couple of lines are good when doing something. The euphoria junkies should skip. Comparing it to crack or meth is a bit misleading.
It's funny how utterly different things look while on stims -- which I'm sure you're aware of while on them, but the strange thing is how completely that perspective slips away when they wear off.Man, when it gets to the point that I cook freebase or do lines just for the sake of being awake, thats when my brain stats going "Dude, your not getting high off this anymore. Quit wasting drugs and money, go to bed."
I offer you the same advice Dedbeet. Yeah, you stay awake. But is that a good high, a good experience? Sleep, start back in the morning.
It's funny how utterly different things look while on stims -- which I'm sure you're aware of while on them, but the strange thing is how completely that perspective slips away when they wear off.
Sure, from the baseline perspective, nothing could be simpler or more obvious. Is it a good high at this point? Christ, just get a little sleep and start over again in the morning... why would you keep doing it? D'oh.
Doesn't look like that from the perspective of being high on stims. At all. That perspective is in fact not available, primarily because nothing could look less attractive than sleep while one is high on stims... or more promising than the vain hope of recapturing the original euphoria.
Peace...
Still awake here & well burned out, but the peevee has worn off and it feels pretty damn good... will probably sleep by bedtime tonight (it's 6:15 PM currently). Probably could sleep now if I laid down & shut my eyes, just have this strange "don't want to right now" thing going, so will probably go make a small cuppee of kratom and enjoy being sleep deprived and exhausted for a couple more hours.
A substantial amount of smoking, and the rest intranasally via a strong PV/water solution. Did surprisingly little though, or so it seems, maybe 150mg over approx. 72 hours. Had 1.1g Monday afternoon, and am amazed how much is left in the bag (just eyeballing, tho... don't have a scale). Smoking it in any amount tends to burn me out right quick, and my dosages drop quite a bit.Aye I'm exactly at the same point but I finished slightly after you (7:00pm). Just out of curiosity how much did you consume over what time scale and what roa?
Thought at first you were referring to weed above... my reading comprehension skills are for utter shit right now. In reference to the earlier thought, I haven't found any substance that mixes well with PV -- except maybe for coke, which it potentiates and greatly improves even crap quality stuff. I tend just not to care for how I feel after mixing anything with PV (except maybe for benzos).I've no idea how much I consumed but I've had to stop today since I've got the job centre tomorrow.
I did enough to have me chatting bare shite till 4am+ in the morning. I've consumed an ungodly amount of valium so I hope my alarm wakes me up.
The tokes earlier were so big that I was nearly sick on quite a few of them - that must've been a shit load of dopamine ontop of the shit load already floating around. It made me light headed which I think's odd. Any explanations?
Sorry completely off-topic but I'm not that happy atm.A substantial amount of smoking, and the rest intranasally via a strong PV/water solution. Did surprisingly little though, or so it seems, maybe 150mg over approx. 72 hours. Had 1.1g Monday afternoon, and am amazed how much is left in the bag (just eyeballing, tho... don't have a scale). Smoking it in any amount tends to burn me out right quick, and my dosages drop quite a bit.
Thought at first you were referring to weed above... my reading comprehension skills are for utter shit right now. In reference to the earlier thought, I haven't found any substance that mixes well with PV -- except maybe for coke, which it potentiates and greatly improves even crap quality stuff. I tend just not to care for how I feel after mixing anything with PV (except maybe for benzos).
P.S. not sure if it's PV or just sleep dep., but I keep hearing a distant big-ben clock (outside?) going "bonnnng, bonnng, bonnng, bonnng". It's been going on and on and on and on for at least the past 8 hours, and it obviously isn't actually there. Driving me bonkers. Vaping quickly brings on bigtime auditory weirdness for me, and I'm honestly not sure I ever want to do it via that ROA again. Seems to just cook off my dopamine receptors & leave 'em for dead.
P.S. not so hot at drugs here either lately... probably just old age catching up. Can't party anymore the way I could even 5 or 6 years ago... sleep dep. does me in a lot sooner than it used to. Or maybe it's the drug. Can't seem to tell the difference anymore at some point.
It's certainly true for me, if the receptors are pushed past a certain point. It could even be what they call dopamine psychosis, although I don't get what I'd call a clinically diagnosable psychosis (no paranoia or blatant hallucinations taken as reality)... just a good deal of weirdness persisting past the point where it's supposed to.Sorry completely off-topic but I'm not that happy atm.
I think i've just realised why I've avoided the fiend. I think I may have completely 'overloaded' my receptors as it's been nearly 10 hours since my last dose and I think I am having a panic attack. I just ate more of my limited supply of valium to calm things down. crazy making... must've smoked best part of 200mg+ over the course of 6 hours possibly more. eugh. As I said I've got the job centre tomorrow.