MDPV Megathread 3 - It don't matter if you're tanned or white! or beige...

[biggiro]

I like peevee, but as many have said, it is pretty subtle...

The G I bought has so far lasted me and the girlfriend (mostly myself) just over 2 months or so, will have to get some more soon though.
We never snort it, always take it diluted, I diluted the entire gram as soon as I got it and taken this way (at least for us) we;ve never had a problem with fiending. from all I've read, fiending whether with Peevee or other drugs seems to be mostly linked to snorting.

We have found that if we have upped our normal dosage just a little too high then the effects of peevee are wasted as it just leaves us altogether too edgy, less is definitely more with this stuff I think.
Ingested it takes a good hour for it to be kicked in properly, for us it is just a nice high, not hugely euphoric but that also depends on circumstances.
Helps to control appetite, though strangely enough I can much on sweet things while up on it, but offer me a bite out of a sandwich and I'd not be remotely interested....strange one that....
Another problem with taking a little too much is that when you come down it leaves you very flat and listless for an hour or two, but take just enough and we barely even notice the journey back to baseline.....
I think that if you are expecting some kind of huge euphoic or buzzy high after being used to taking 'party style' stims then you are gonna be disappointed...most definitely a learned high....

Biggiro

 

[OrdeM]

My first experience with PV last week didn't go too well... kept taking small redoses then wham fidgety and panic.

Going to try again this weekend with smaller dosage and with a different mindset of what to expect.
Plus going to do this after plenty of rest the night before and not after a Meph binge like the last week!

 

[nudecricket]

I defo think i was expecting something else. Mindset and surroundings play a role too. I made the cardinal mistake of taking some more and then.. a tiny bit more! I pretty much ended up freaking out. I was well conscious of being up all night which wouldnt have been ideal cos of work today. I couldnt keep my attention on anything. I had the tv on music, tried to read and i just couldnt focus i ended up pacing my room. In the end I decided to have a few Jacks to balance it out and it defo helped me calm down and get it together a bit. GOt to sleep about 3. Its prob not for me..but i have 5 g's of the stuff!

 

[OrdeM]

I defo think i was expecting something else. Mindset and surroundings play a role too. I made the cardinal mistake of taking some more and then.. a tiny bit more! I pretty much ended up freaking out. I was well conscious of being up all night which wouldnt have been ideal cos of work today. I couldnt keep my attention on anything. I had the tv on music, tried to read and i just couldnt focus i ended up pacing my room. In the end I decided to have a few Jacks to balance it out and it defo helped me calm down and get it together a bit. GOt to sleep about 3. Its prob not for me..but i have 5 g's of the stuff!

Have to say was reading your posts last night....and it sounded exactly like my experience at the weekend (I was hoping it was going to turn out differently for you)!

Kept taking a bit more...then a bit more...then pacing....restless....panicky. It seemed so subtle then wham!

 

[Shambles]

PV and coke are very similar in many ways - they both massively increase the amount of dopamine your brain gets to play with and lots of dopamine tends to mean lots of feeling fuckin' fantastic. To a point anyway. Also means you crave like crazy cos it's not so much fun having to go back down to boring ol' normal dopamine levels - tis why they both have that clear-headedness, boost in confidence and generally feeling gooood thang going on, I'd say - doped up to the eyeballs. Ritalin also works in a similar way - hence OCD tendencies and the like,probably. Baseline seems such a long way down that it's not easy to go willingly

Coke has the instant euphoria cos it tickles your serotonin too which PV doesn't. You end up in a similar headplacespace in many ways but you have to take the slow and steady road with PV cos it doesn't hold your hand along the way. Once you get there you can stay there for a long time if you choose to which is a big plus for me. Both send you nuts if you don't traipse back down to basecamp soon enough or go up too fast to acclimatise too.

I find PV works best if you start small and work up in stages to allow your body to adjust to the altitude cos it takes you too far, too soon otherwise and feel as shitty as most who play with it find out. It's best suited for those that are in it for a reasonably long visit, I'd say. Coke's a great night out, MDPV is a more a lengthy exploration of somewhere you normally only get glimpses of - harder work but more rewarding ultimately. For me anyway.

i find the good pv is a good combo with codiene,
does anyone know of any negative effects of this?

I almost always use codeine with it - partly cos they go nicely together but also cos I'm sore enough anyway usually without being all tensed up on stims. Not noticed any problems, myself.

Sure f&b can correct all of that though :D

 

[x89]

How fast are you all building tolerance to the pv?
The same amount that I initially had certainly no longer seems to have the same effect but I'm not sure how much it's changed by, and I haven't been making proper measurements so hmm..

 

[Hector]

I was a bit disappointed with the pv when I first got it. I assumed I would feel at least some euphoria but I didn't so I kept trying to chase it which ended up with me feeling on edge and paranoid as hell. It's definitely a stimulant you have to learn to enjoy. Downers are also a neccessity for when you take it too far.

 

[sunsetter]

PV and coke are very similar in many ways - they both massively increase the amount of dopamine your brain gets to play with and lots of dopamine tends to mean lots of feeling fuckin' fantastic. To a point anyway. Also means you crave like crazy cos it's not so much fun having to go back down to boring ol' normal dopamine levels - tis why they both have that clear-headedness, boost in confidence and generally feeling gooood thang going on, I'd say - doped up to the eyeballs. Ritalin also works in a similar way - hence OCD tendencies and the like,probably. Baseline seems such a long way down that it's not easy to go willingly

Coke has the instant euphoria cos it tickles your serotonin too which PV doesn't. You end up in a similar headplacespace in many ways but you have to take the slow and steady road with PV cos it doesn't hold your hand along the way. Once you get there you can stay there for a long time if you choose to which is a big plus for me. Both send you nuts if you don't traipse back down to basecamp soon enough or go up too fast to acclimatise too.

I find PV works best if you start small and work up in stages to allow your body to adjust to the altitude cos it takes you too far, too soon otherwise and feel as shitty as most who play with it find out. It's best suited for those that are in it for a reasonably long visit, I'd say. Coke's a great night out, MDPV is a more a lengthy exploration of somewhere you normally only get glimpses of - harder work but more rewarding ultimately. For me anyway.



I almost always use codeine with it - partly cos they go nicely together but also cos I'm sore enough anyway usually without being all tensed up on stims. Not noticed any problems, myself.

Sure f&b can correct all of that though :D

yeah,same goes for me with the pain thing

by the way,that pv which is not to be mentioned,i suspect there is no pv in it,-4days=2g,that should have either put me in hospital / morgue or lasted months,plus i slept.... go figure,so back to the original point of my post that was nuked,dont waste your time ,that shit aint shit,its shit

 

[rnd.id.]

Downers are also a neccessity for when you take it too far.

Hmm, I think riding the anxiety out while attentively observing myself helped me to become more resistant to MDPV anxiety; I get much less of it nowadays (OTOH, distractions or music *don't* help, in my experience. They just add to the overstimulation. Sensory deprivation seems best). After a few times one seems to learn that this-and-that sensation in the chest probably isn't a heart attack

An alternative explanation is that I merely became more accurate at dosing

PS: The latest peevee looks just like the good white stuff ("good" as in active in expectedly tiny doses), but it doesn't have the spermy smell Any ideas what this is? Will probably sample it after the next good sleep.

 

[naginnudej]

bleh i hope i don't get shite peevee with my next order.

...time will tell i suppose.

 

[Allaround]

Peevee is def a learned high

I was just going to say the same thing, Bulby. It can be stupidly euphoric but takes some practice and patience. ... Have to work with it. That work is richly rewarded, in my opinion

Most definately. Once you learn to work with it & learn to control it, its one of the best stims ever!

most definitely a learned high

It's definitely a stimulant you have to learn to enjoy.

Can you guys please elaborate on this and give some specific tips on how to "learn" the high to those unfortunate souls who've not been able to do so and have only managed to experience existential moments of terror after taking too much when trying to somehow get some euphoria out of this drug?

 

[Bella Figura]

Keep your doses low so that you get used to it if you always end up taking too much and experiencing the moments of terror?

 

[fastandbulbous]

Can you guys please elaborate on this and give some specific tips on how to "learn" the high to those unfortunate souls who've not been able to do so and have only managed to experience existential moments of terror after taking too much when trying to somehow get some euphoria out of this drug?

Don't expect the first dose to be euphoric (well not very much). Persevere and by the third dose you'll be grinning like a pig in shit as long as you keep the doses low

 

[Allaround]

Don't expect the first dose to be euphoric (well not very much). Persevere and by the third dose you'll be grinning like a pig in shit as long as you keep the doses low

About how much time would you recommend between doses? And what ROA (or does it matter)? Thanks.

 

[bresker]

Correction, the stuff I bought is SHITE

And I accidentally bought another gram while balloogered on other stuff. I haven't opened it, and the vendor says they'll refund unopened packages. Problem is, they don't provide a return address, and they won't respond to my emails.

Not happy.

 

[Riklet]

I generally dab/gum or snort PV, the fiending stuff is definitely more linked to the person than the ROA, i find them both fairly similar. Sublingual PV hits hard and fast as does snorting, for me.

PV is definitely learned, I know i'm a stim weirdo wuss but even tiny tiny doses get me a bit "there", I can just then keep building upwards. Having done PV loads and loads of times, I doubt I could do as much as I did my first time without being absolutely wired off my tree and rushing and cock-blistered haha. It's one to respect, tbh I don't find it that complicated a drug though... and whether you choose to stay up for days says quite a lot about personality haha :D

 

[knock]

About how much time would you recommend between doses? And what ROA (or does it matter)? Thanks.

I haven't indulged yet (the supplier says my scales will arrive on Friday! at last...) but I can digest what I've read for you, you lazy swine. If only because it lets me gather my thoughts about my own dosing plan.

Dosage depends. It depends on exactly what batch you've got, whether you have tolerance, what you want to achieve and presumably your personal physiology. Shambles has said 2-3mg of the old "tan" batch would keep him going for three or four hours but a newer batch required 5 times that amount (so 10-15mg). I suspect this was smoked.

While the chances are that you have one of the lower quality batches, it would make sense to assume you have the best quality stuff for a first try-out in case you overdo it. Personally I'm going to try 2-3mg, see where it gets me and maybe top up with another 2-3mg after a couple of hours if it needs it. If this doesn't work I'll call it a night and try again another day with a higher initial dose. Well, that's my plan. I'll probably end up doing more...

To avoid the unpleasant effects of overdose I think it's important to keep the 24hr cumulative dose fairly low, somewhere between 30-50mg.

ROA - I think I'll be trying it out sublingually until I know where I am with it. Smoking is supposed to be quite powerful. I've read there are nasties (pyrollidine was it?) which may be left behind from the manufacturing process, which are not good for your lungs, although probably in insignificant quantities. I won't be smoking it, at least not until I know where I am with it. F&B likes it up the arse , but I'm not getting my knickers in a twist if I don't have to... Snorting just seems too hit or miss to me for such a low active dose, it might all get absorbed, or half of it might get stuck in a dry bit of your nasal cavity only to surprise you in the middle of the night...

Just my thoughts. Would appreciate any corrections from someone who knows what they're taking about! Could do with a FAQ really....

Edit: a FAQ, yes, well sort of.

 

[Scire]

My first experience with PV last week didn't go too well... kept taking small redoses then wham fidgety and panic.

Going to try again this weekend with smaller dosage and with a different mindset of what to expect.
Plus going to do this after plenty of rest the night before and not after a Meph binge like the last week!

MDPV takes about an hour to kick in properly, so if you do too many little top ups too quickly they'll all catch up with you and.. well you know what happens.

 

[OrdeM]

Can you guys please elaborate on this and give some specific tips on how to "learn" the high to those unfortunate souls who've not been able to do so and have only managed to experience existential moments of terror after taking too much when trying to somehow get some euphoria out of this drug?

Thats actually a great question. Especially as I'm going for second experiment this weekend.

One question do a lot of the fans do it solo? No, alcohol, G, or downers? Seems like a few posts I have read seem to mention mixed with a downer or G to take the edge of it....even read about MDAI mix making it smoother.

What surprised me (although it shouldn't have after reading up on the stuff) was what 15mg (maybe up to 20mg, scale accuracy) over several hours did to me! Actually made me think a lot about where I stored it and where I cut it....you don't want to be ingesting a small spill by mistake! This was UK sourced, first time trial so I have nothing to compare it with, but it was defo very active in mg dosage!

Think I will take one 5mg dosage and just wait and see...no redose. See how that feels and maybe up dosage another day.
I am actually one of the lucky (unlucky?) who always seems to require low dosage of all drugs so will keep that in mind this week.

Thanks for all of the info so far.

 

[Allaround]

Having done PV loads and loads of times, I doubt I could do as much as I did my first time without being absolutely wired off my tree and rushing and cock-blistered haha.

It's funny you say that. Bill has also seen a "reverse tolerance" effect. The first few times he used it, he actually did manage to have some extended sessions of euphoric porn-watching. And as F&B said, the euphoria came after a few hours as a result of building up successive tiny doses. But after those initial trials, he cannot seem to repeat his success - it seems that the same approach he was using before just gets him over-stimulated and paranoid now. (He's still using the same batch as before.)

It's a difficult one to learn, that's for sure. Bill has put it away for now and may try it again after 6 months. For now, he's had one too many panic attacks.