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MDPV Megathread 2 - Moderate Dosing Prevents Vitiation

No doubt I would go off the deep end with PV.If I had 100mg and went straight through that it sounds like it would be ok,with benzos/codiene to come off it.But no way would I get 1g or hell would be round the corner.
PS curvy where's your avatar?Lost in the post with your drugs too is it;)
 
curvygal19 said:
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Ceres, just reading your post made me anxious :)
I was contemplating trying this out but I know this one is not for me with my lack of self control and propensity for anxiety.

I would not be able to leave it alone until it had all gone.
Least Meph is over in a couple of doses.

Maybe if I had one of those timelocked safes that I am still searching for :)
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TBH the way I'd got into the habit of happily snorting lines of mephedrone every 15 mins and binging on it frequently with no apparent problems or serious dependance was a big factor in why I was so complacent about MDPV.
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^ bingo!

Easy done with lots of chemicals, something eases you in and you treat another with almost a 'disrespect' for them.

Ceres, I'm sure you feel much better about the whole thing now, almost enlightenend. It's a lesson learnt at the end of the day ?

I've done it more than an armful of times!!
 
^ Yeah I actually got a lot out of it in the end, learned my lesson for sure aswell as having a good useful period of sober introspection afterwards.

I tried MDPV again today and a much more controlled, happier and sensible time with it, since I now have a decent balance to at least weigh doses!
 
Is there any concensus or even much anectodal evidence regarding succesfully using MDPV at low doses as an aid to motivation/focus on intellectually intensive tasks?

I'm really surprised by just how subtle and tightly focused the stimulation is, I found it almost invisible while doing nothing in particular, but as soon as I devoted my attention to one specific task, the effects really began to manifest themselves.

In the lower doses I've tried my attention is easily very tightly focused on a task without wandering or being prone to distraction, but there's still too much stimulation. The thought process is so rapid it seems to easily outpace reason and degenerates into basic stimmed up tangential stream of consciousness bollocks. (yes that made me stop and think actually. I haven't dosed for hours and now feel pretty verbose and stimulated again, perhaps as a result of writing this post...)

It seems to linger in the system for a surprisingly long time, I would like to find out more about this because I felt frequent dosing was having an obvious cumulative effect which eventually seemed to reach a point where nausea and anxiety appeared quite abruptly after the last dose, along with beginnings of choppy vision and impaired coordination. The whole nature of the experience was markedly changed. I don't know anything about pharmacology atall but I felt like there was definately a point where the level of the drug in the system was becoming toxic.

I wanted to pose a couple of other questions in this post but I've ended up spending a ridiculous amount of time writing this now so it's appropriate that I just finish by adding that when youve taken a lot of it or are coming down off it, I find that the positive effects seem to quite easily degenerate into an almost OCD like loss of spontaneity and fluid articulation, and a horrible state where my attention is captured by a sentence and it's nuance for an absurd amount of time to the point where it's completely divorced from it's context, eventually leading me to reread the paragraph which by now seems to make no sense atall and this process repeats.

As someone who otherwise finds it easy to articulate ideas and happily takes pleasure in writing in a swift and confident way, it's actually pretty fucking distressing to spend hours writing something which would usually take 5 mins and then be left feeling unsure wether it actually has anything to do with what I originally wanted to communicate, or is even remotely coherent.

I have found while dosing on MDPV, if I'm not throwing myself fully into something, in abscence of anything to do my mind and my inner dialogue seems to latch onto random trivial things in my head which have a problem solving nature to them and incessantly loop through them with different variations etc, and I kept randomly becoming aware of it, as a kind of background process secondary to my main focus.

All of these effects dissapear completely after the drug has left my system and I've slept etc, but I am quite concerned on the whole now about where continued use could lead to.
 
continued use is not advised :), it will only lead to complete and utter mania.

For the first dose it may seem like there are positive effects but soon you will realise that that is an illusion and that there is no possible "study/motivation/concentration" aid use to this drug. It is only really a recreational drug, that seems to be way too fiendish and would probably only be really effective if combined with something else, as doing it on its own just messes up your mind and makes you crazy.
 
I guess I just find it a bit fiendish, but that's about it. It doesn't feel toxic, I don't stay up for days on it, I don't find myself taking it more often than once a week usually, I don't get really anxious on it, I can write and communicate fine on it -- if anything i'm burbling/typing away too much without really analysing that much. I don't really get "comedowns" off it either, just feel a bit crap the day after for a few hours.

It does linger for a while, and physical tiredness does definitely come; I did my first dose almost 12 hours ago and I never quite got 'round to working on it for long, however it definitely focuses my mind at times. Even something as simple as underlining something becomes noticeably easier and improved; I can draw a straighter line. I definitely find it more useful in terms of "doing stuff" than recreation; washing up, tidying, going shopping, reading, improving my porn collection, I seem to get a fuck lot done in an afternoon... :D

The jaw tension kinda sucks. The horniness is kinda great, but I don't find it as overpowering as it is with G, then again I don't do huge doses. Maybe it sounds a bit condescending saying it, but some things are worth treating with caution/respect, especially stims which have the potential to keep you up for days, gota not push it too much.
 
Mugabe, I know exactly where you're coming from with the sketchy late night wierdness wondering if everyone has really gone to bed or not and hearing the odd noise that makes you think maybe someones got up to see what you're up to, to the point where you end up feeling like youve spent the whole night with the feeling that someones checking up on you.

I'm worried all the time anyway that someone will suss what I'm up to staying up all night and acting out of character etc, so it blatently stems from that. It has got me every time though without fail so far.

Already in less than a week MDPV has given me a totally unexpected and shockingly convincing glimpse into what is quickly becoming a breathtakingly comprehensive portfolio of very unpleasant mental states.
 
mugabe said:
continued use is not advised :), it will only lead to complete and utter mania.

For the first dose it may seem like there are positive effects but soon you will realise that that is an illusion and that there is no possible "study/motivation/concentration" aid use to this drug. It is only really a recreational drug, that seems to be way too fiendish and would probably only be really effective if combined with something else, as doing it on its own just messes up your mind and makes you crazy.
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Yeah I have noticed reading my posts on it etc and the way i was chatting with people during / after doing it there is this blatent undercurrent of mania which was already bothering me, but after today when I realised what it was doing to my basic ability to think and write, and the way it was making my background thoughts cyclical and obsessive, topped off with the totally irrational and baseless but still always convincing paranoia about wether my mums sneaked through the house at 4 in the morning to see if im still awake, not forgetting it's top of the range stim binge audio hallucinations and stunningly intricate particle modelled almost touchable OEVs...regular unintended multi day wakefulness, starving yourself, it's pretty fucking obvious where that leads.
 
Sorry to hear about the shittiness mate, all the best eh, hope you get some quality shut eye and grub, n feel better the new few days. :)

Tired as fuck, pv wore off a while ago i've just been staying awake through boredom/stupidity. Eyyy well :D
 
Yeah it's not done any damage or sent me loopy yet, but what I've observed of it so far now just completely puts me off ;)

I've never seen another drug in my life which has given a taste of so many distinctly unpleasant mental states, everything about it looks bad to me.
 
I was having a few kidney aches last night, but then the past few weeks i've been drinking and doing ketamine more, both of which always seem to make me sore inside. No idea if there's a link to the 'PV, although possibly at higher doses? I've never pissed blood in my life though, so i'm no expert on that aside from knowing it aint good at all!! :o

Ah i've felt fine today; bit tired, and fed up with the endless grey (it's just started raining again)
 
Remember; your subjective experiences are not objective facts. Especially considering people in this thread seem to be consuming two rather different chemicals, at times.

I can eat fine on MDPV, it does suppress my appetite sometimes, but i've still managed a bowl of cereal at my very worst (before going out on the pish; had a spoonful of olive oil too, haha, harm reduction!), and yesterday I managed to nom down chicken thighs and baked sweet potato n salad, plus chocolate. Then again, I have also fallen asleep whilst buzzing on MDPV, so maybe I am just a freak... =D
 
^ Nah, I do beleive that you can teach yourself to eat on stimulants. It just takes some practice, even if it is just something tiny like cereal simply for bodily functioning and harm reduction purposes.

I have a friend who finds it very easy to fall alseep after an evening snorting what the rest of us had decided was quite strong speed.

Everyone's brain is different, especially when it comes to drugs. As you said,
subjective experiences are not objective facts
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:)
 
yeah she is on stim mania.

however. its not this evil poison drug so many seem to make it out. its a fairly strong DARI like ritalin or cocaine. its just 4-6x stronger then ritalin and maybe 15x cocaine, with a really long halflife.

its the same kinda deal guys. play safe, watch your dosage.
 
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