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MDPV Megathread 2 - Moderate Dosing Prevents Vitiation

Wow, this thread is dead.

I'm in a tough spot with this stuff. I have a batch of the white. When I first read this thread I thought that all the white was bunk, but then I checked back and noticed that f&b said that he'd had his hands on a batch of white that passed his test proving the presence of the MD component.

I've never tried the tan, so I can't use past experience as a guide, but I like the stuff I have. Good mood lift and energy boost. Not as incredibly "pervy" as many have said, but I'm still quite enthusiastic in that area ;-). It's worked well as a work/study aid (except insofar as I have the energy and the inclination to do ten thousand things unrelated to the task at hand). Even after a few weeks of use (no binging) it's still quite potent in sub-10mg doses. The one big downside is that I often end up feeling twitchy and tense post-peak, which may be due to taking too much, or it may just be the result of a naturally twitchy guy taking a strong stim.

So, I like what I have. The trouble is that when I first became curious about this sort of thing, I promised myself that I'd always take a safe and sane approach to whatever I'm using. The thought of using a completely unknown substance freaks me way the hell out. I'd like to order more but I won't let myself play roulette with mystery chems from under-regulated Chinese labs. (Haha, I want known chems from those shady Chinese labs!)

I bought this batch from an unnamed vendor [deleted vague reference to general geographical area] (which I hope is not saying too much). What gives me some slight hope is that I think I've noticed the "spermy" smell people have spoken about as characteristic of the real thing. I keep my solution refrigerated and I wasn't paying close attention so it took me a while to get what people were saying, but I think it's there.

So, at long last, my point: can anyone give me any useful advice, based on my description of the subjective experience and my (hopefully permissible) very vague hint as to the source [note: very vague hint was removed by mods, so scratch that]? Good or bad, any information is good information. The worst thing would be for me to rationalize a resupply based solely on the fact that I like the stuff and it smells vaguely of cum.

Edit: sorry mods! I've seen a bunch of people mention "UK vendors" and thought it was a logical extension.
 
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Received my first 500mg of this stuff this morning -- white, not surprisingly. Have taken three approx. 10mg doses over the course of the day (two insufflated, one oral) and haven't noticed anything particularly amazing: just a steady, speedy rush and a bit of jitteriness.

I hadn't heard of the supposed spermy smell, but mine does smell/taste a little bit like some sort of strange mint, which is what I've seen a few others report.
 
I've gone through 100mg of mdpv in doses ranging between about 5 mg and 25mg (25mg over the course of several hours) and not had any problems with it.

I can appreciate the morishness to just take a little bit more so that you 'really feel it' but for some reason after i've had about 10mg or so this levels off and my general tendancy to dislike stimulants (and perhaps the fact i only had 100mg total if i'm being honest) discouraged me taking any more than i did.

I've only tried the stuff from one source (wont give details other than that there was only 1 source) and it was a bright white coloured powder that i obtained. Given the debate about possible different varieties of this stuff i can't be sure other peoples experiences will be the same as mine but i'm surprised to hear people saying they are having such serious problems with this powerful stimulant when I, someone who normally hates stimulants, finds it so benign.

Maybe if i'd ordered a whole gram i'd have taken way too much, gone off the rails with it and know exactly what some of you guys are talking about...
 
Imperial tacohead: I have had the batch you spoke of, and the other batch people speak of, both were definately different. The one you mentioned
smelled spunky just opening the bag (and in the drip :(, the other smelled a bit sweeter, like cloves or cinnamon - but when it was dissolved in water, stored at room temp in an opaque HDPE bottle after a couple of days it smelled quite spunky too.

I have a second sample of the latter and it seems like different material, but I haven't put any into solution yet. It's almost odourless but vaguely sweet. 10mg insufflated has made me post like a madman all evening on here as you've probably noticed. I will not be redosing as I didn't sleep last night.

MrM said:
i'm surprised to hear people saying they are having such serious problems with this powerful stimulant when I, someone who normally hates stimulants, finds it so benign.
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My first experience with mdpv was with the spunky white stuff mentioned above, in the space of a week I consumed iirc about 200mg in total in eyeballed lines starting at 1cm long, kept redosing, didnt sleep or eat and ended up in A&E with a terrific panic attack (which I'd never had before in my life). I was extremely stimulant naive though, nervous about an unknown chemical, and had never had a panic attack before.

Personally, I find MDPV good in the 5-10mg range, but due to circumstances I've only really been doing at night without much to focus on, as you can see from the crazy long posts it makes people produce,you need something to direct it to towards. Redosing, or just often the tail end of an initial dose does start to give me anxiety. I don't really like the drug much to be honest, there are nicer alternatives with less unpleasant peripheral sideeffects. Perhaps my opinion will change though if I can stick to my planned, sensible usage regime.....

Snorting it was just steadily growing lines, shorter time between, I really can't imagine the kind of willpower people who vape or inject the stuff have.
 
tried it for the first time today, 5 mg vaped. fun :)
and there was an urge to take more, but to me that wasnt as bad as it is with amphetamines.
 
Allaround said:
Imperial Tacohead, have you tried vaporizing the stuff you have?
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No, I dissolved it in distilled water and administer it sub-lingually.

I was actually coming to ask a question about just that. In principle, is there any reason that rectal administration should work more effectively than my chosen method? Either way the chemical is getting absorbed through the membranes and bypassing the stomach, right? As chemicals go it really doesn't taste so bad, and all things being equal a bad taste in my mouth is easily preferable to the discomfort of plugging.
 
^ I wouldn't have thought there would be an enormous difference between sublingual and rectal dosing for MDPV as the doses are already so small, kick in quickly and don't cause a nasty bodyload. Sublingual should be just fine for peevee :)

Allaround said:
Imperial Tacohead, have you tried vaporizing the stuff you have?
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Very compulsive is vapourising MDPV. I can easily get through 100mg+ in a night if I vape it - becomes somewhat moreish and also feels very nasty on the lungs. Worth being a bit cautious with, methinks. Can't be good for you :|
 
Shambles said:
^ I wouldn't have thought there would be an enormous difference between sublingual and rectal dosing for MDPV as the doses are already so small, kick in quickly and don't cause a nasty bodyload. Sublingual should be just fine for peevee :)
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How about in general, as applied to other substances? It's more out of curiosity than anything else, as most stuff I've tried tastes far too awful to leave sitting in my mouth -- I'm thinking of methylone in particular. I'm just wondering if rectal and sub-lingual shouldn't have pretty much the same effect with most drugs for the reasons I mentioned earlier.
 
For most other substances I go for plugging myself. Not a big fan of holding vile-tasting chemicals in my mouth so have rarely tried it though. Some of the RC psyches can cause burns sublingually but are no problem plugged as they can be made more dillute. I've plugged Methylone and it was as close to being good as M1 has ever got for me so can recommend that. Broadly speaking doses are around half of the oral equivalent when plugged so economical too :)
 
Imperial Tacohead said:
As chemicals go it really doesn't taste so bad, and all things being equal a bad taste in my mouth is easily preferable to the discomfort of plugging.
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maybe it ´d make a difference if you had to take more material (absorption times and so on), but i think thats not really the case with mdpv. and i really found the taste/feeling of 5mgs, rubbed into the gums, to be "pleasant and fresh", the taste fitted very well to the first effects of the stuff.
hmmm maybe im talking shit.
but i dont think so.... sorry, its late ;)
 
FFS

I

Want

Real

MDPV!

Been stictched up by a previous vendor of the tanned, £90 down the drain :(
 
I only have about 25mg of MDPV, so no chance of binging but was just wondering if anyone has tried it with pills that supposedly contain MDMA, or if anyone has tried it with MDMA at all. Would it mix weland be good for a clubbing situation??
 
It mixes okay with MDMA, Mugabe. Doesn't add a great deal though - will just keep you awake longer mostly. A dash of MDMA helps a bit if you've been binging on peevee for a few days though (warning: dodgy "chemistry" ahead) a sprinkle of serotonin to cut through that fog of dopamine works wonders :)
 
Over the last few days I've been mixing the white stuff with small doses of Soma with the idea of calming down my CNS a little bit and balancing out the general twitchiness I get post-peak. On the upside, it works as intended, but on the downside by eliminating a major drawback of the not-PV it increases compulsiveness. I'm still not binging like a lot of people seem to, but I've done more than I would have liked. In truth I think I'll be happy to reach the end of my stash, as I'm certain I won't be ordering more.
 
Today I made a bloody stupid mistake. I had 20mg 4-mmc in a line which I decided not to use, and put back in the bag. Unfortunately it was a bag containing nearly a gram of MDPV.:\

It is not a significant contamination in terms of being dangerous to dose now, but I'm worried that the two could react with unknown consequences - anyone chemists care to share their thoughts?
 
I've combined 4mmc and PV together many times, form a user standpoint there is no problem, from a chemical standpoint i would think as long as there is no moisture then the two won't chemically mix.
 
As chemicals go it really doesn't taste so bad, and all things being equal a bad taste in my mouth is easily preferable to the discomfort of plugging
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What discomfort? Unless you're making up half a litre of soln for plugging, or using boiling water and not allowing it to cool first, there shouldn't be any discomfort (5ml of solution at room temp is ideal) - only discomfort I could imagine is if there's some sort of gay connection in your mind that you're uneasy about
 
fastandbulbous said:
What discomfort? Unless you're making up half a litre of soln for plugging, or using boiling water and not allowing it to cool first, there shouldn't be any discomfort (5ml of solution at room temp is ideal) - only discomfort I could imagine is if there's some sort of gay connection in your mind that you're uneasy about
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Haha, no, no gay panic. My experience with plugging is just very limited and I'm not used to any sort of rectal insertion, so the discomfort probably arises out of ignorance more than anything else.
 
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