MDPV Megathread 11: Still sorting all the porn.

[Nicklazz]

If the brown is a-pvp, that sum weird batch I would say.

And yea maybe a better picture would help. :D

 

[monstanoodle]

Nah sorry: I should have noted =
They are both MDPV - Freebase on the left n Hydrochloride on the right.
a-PVP is a lil less white n the freebase I've made is not yet perfected. But the Peev was golden (effect wise. Tan in colour ofcourse )
We need a Shambles to A. the Q. ! :D

And yes, my phone cam isn't great really. Got a couple other pics I'll put up soon though
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MDPV freebase against white paper, fuckin phone! :

 

[Albion]

So what are the qualitative differences between freebase and HCL? And how do you make one n tother?

 

[monstanoodle]

It feels more empathologically potent to me. And smoother - Bit like alpha but a tad less serotoninee

 

[Albion]

Sooo...weaker? :D

 

[Mental Kenny]

It feels more empathologically potent to me. And smoother - Bit like alpha but a tad less serotoninee

I don't feel a-pvp has any effect on serotonin at all, never felt any empathogenic action from it, to be it's just like normal pv, but with less of that magical hornyness, less compulsive and slighltly more chilled out but not by much.

 

[Ceres]

mdpv freebase is a liquid at room temperature, there's no need to basify it to vape it either, so not sure what the point is of what you are doing to get that off colour powder....

 

[Shambles]

Why would you? MXE is good for one setting, MDPV good for another. You will go manic as all hell.

Maybe save the MXE for the comedown, whenever that may be. If you've been up for a night or more prior to taking the MXE, reduce your dosage - you'll need less than if you were going in sober and well rested.

I rather enjoyed the combo actually. But yes, it is manic as hell. Very much depends on what you're looking for. If you're looking for being outrageously fukked and manic (with perhaps just touch of delirium) it's a winner. Must say I find combining with dissociatives utterly kills the paranoia and psychosis though. Well, certainly the peevish psychosis, not saying it guarantees avoidance of psychosis in all it's variformic glory...

Ketamine + MDPV was perhaos the dodgiest peev/disso combo I've tried oddly enough. In terms of psychological effects certainly. If I hadn't had the kinda level of experience I have had with pretty extreme states I could quite see that ending in sectioning. As it is, I am used to extreme states so I kept at it for a week solid... with most of said week spent burrowing into a pillow in the corner of the room whilst being stretched to infinity through more dimensions than should rightly exist.

3-MeO-PCP is the one that's most physically iffy with peev in my book. That really did get extremely manic (as in pacing back and forth at a gazillion mph for 24h straight). I do believe there was MXE involved too which also gets manic but 3-MeO-PCP is especially stimmy even if you don't push the doses too high (and I most assuredly did push the doses too high) and did get rather sore feet from all the pacing. Wasn't psychologically disturbing at any point but was physically exhausting and really not at all recreational or even vaguely enjoyable... not past a point anyway.

Generally speaking, MDPV/dissociative combos are probably not something to go in for unless you really are looking for an extreme experience and not overly worried about whether it's an enjoyable one or not.

The a-pvp is okay too but it just goes too fast, for me is like half the strenght of pv by weight, seriously.

Got through a gramme of a-PVP meself last week and must say I don't rate it at all. Could never be a peevee replacement for me. The smoke is harsh and nasty-tasting instead of that creamysmooth, jizzy Goodness you get with peev - felt caustic, gave me a really sore throat and cheesegrate lungs as well as a sore on my inner lip. Not pleasant to smoke at all and the effects are vastly inferior to peev. It did provide the peevhorn initially (which is something that peev itself never really does these days) but soon degenerated into pure obsessive stuff that was even more obsessive than peev is. Didn't give me even a hint of psychosis but did seem to fuck with me emotionally (just felt really depressed and pissed off with everything from quite an early stage) which I wasn't expecting. Is definitely more stimulating (in the traditional sense) than peev is but is not an especially nice stimulation - it's obsessive OCD stuff to an even greater extent than peev itself is only without the magical wonderland side-effects so ultimately dull as fuck. Without all that dreaminess you're left fully aware of how pathetic and miserable an experience it is to be sat staring at a screen for days on end whilst in ever-increasing amounts of pain from the (frankly ridiculous) level of vasoconstriction and general stiff acheyness. Vasoconstriction deserves a special mention cos it really is brutal. Far worse than peev is. Also made me excessively hot rather than the unusually cold I get with peev. Won't be buying that again. Peev it ain't

PeeEss: And the comedown from a-PVP is harsh as all fukkery too. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse than the comedown from five times as much MDPV. Definitely not worth it.

 

[QuasiStoned]

What is up with my PV fellowship? I haven't been here in ages. I hope you guys are all doing good, I haven't touched PV in like 7 months and I'm happy to say it rarely crosses my mind anymore. I used to dream about it and think about it a lot but those days are over.

Hope you guys are all good. MDPV and A-PVP wrecked my life hardcore. It's nice to be away from it, it's just too good and ya never want to stop.

Take care everyone
Quasi

*edit*
Oh shit Shambles you a moderator now?? Awesome.

 

[monstanoodle]

He is n he is
Good to see yuh about quasi Been caning both for few days with antipsychs to sleep... Not really wise

 

[Albion]

Surely antipsychotics are the perfect remedy for MDPV binges. Right?

 

[monstanoodle]

Exactly, but the general situ ain't! 8(

 

[Shambles]

What is up with my PV fellowship? I haven't been here in ages. I hope you guys are all doing good, I haven't touched PV in like 7 months and I'm happy to say it rarely crosses my mind anymore. I used to dream about it and think about it a lot but those days are over.

Hey, Quasi - long time no see. Great to see you pop your head in and in such positive situation too

Your name crops up fairly often in the "has anybody heard from xxxx recently? any idea how xxxx is getting on?" discussions and is really good to see that you're seven months off the stuff and sounding suitably pleased with and positive about the fact. Nice job

Is a shame reading and posting in this thread may not be overly helpful for those who are making efforts to avoid these substances cos always did enjoy reading your posts, hopefully see you around and about the place in general though and you're always more than welcome to join in any of the other fine, fine selection of threads EADD has to offer

(oh, and yes they did allow me to reclaim me stick - now to see if i can keep hold of it rather than revert to type and fiend it all away again...)

 

[Nicklazz]

Sorry to hear you did not like the a-pvp Shambles, you are the one of an real PV fiend who I have seen have the most "hate-relationship" to it. You know what I mean

How things ells m8? You doing a lot of PV lately, time for a break soon or sum real PV coming ya way? All the best

What is up with my PV fellowship? I haven't been here in ages. I hope you guys are all doing good, I haven't touched PV in like 7 months and I'm happy to say it rarely crosses my mind anymore. I used to dream about it and think about it a lot but those days are over.

Hope you guys are all good. MDPV and A-PVP wrecked my life hardcore. It's nice to be away from it, it's just too good and ya never want to stop.

Take care everyone
Quasi

7 fuckin month. You are king! So great you are out of it friend.

 

[Shambles]

Sorry to hear you did not like the a-pvp Shambles, you are the one of an real PV fiend who I have seen have the most "hate-relationship" to it. You know what I mean

I really didn't get along that well with it at all. Although it definitely feels like a related substance it's inferior in every way in my view, and combined with having considerably nastier side-effects it just doesn't seem worth using at all to me. All the bad bits of peev (only worse and with other bad bits) and none of the (arguably) good bits. Not one for me.

That aside, things not so bad with me, thanks. Have been dabbling a wee bit more than I should and planning to not be dabbling for a while at least. Use does tend to creep rather easily and even if I'm sticking to "safe" order amounts I'm still ordering too often and focussed too much on it in the time between orders. The recent a-PVP experience rather put me off for one reason and another and not had an immediate urge to order more since so makes sense to use the opportunity to extend that not ordering whilst fiend is on holiday. The suggested Chinese ban never did seem to be actually confirmed and still no sign of short supply so the reasons/excuses for using again don't really apply either. Not for now anyway. Can never to completely certain with peev as it really does get under the skin far more so than almost any other drug I can think of. But no plans for the foreseeable.

You've been steering clear for quite some time now yourself, no? Nice work - I remember you saying many times you thought you could never stay away but you can just as much as anybody else can if they really make the effort. Good going

 

[Ben So Furry]

Couldn't agree more about the a-pvp Shambles. That taste! MDPV is nicer to smoke/snort than anything I have ever taken but a-pvp is foul. I don't understand why it has so many fans especially from people who have also used MDPV.

 

[kingme]

sometimes i read this thread's title and thibk "still snorting all the porn". fitting, no?

 

[Shambles]

Ugh. The taste. Nasty stuff to smoke. Burnt fuck out me throat and chest and gave me a nasty lil sore on the lip. Felt pretty caustic to me but whatever it is it's not pleasant to smoke. Taste is one of peev's special features - just thinking about it sets mouth watering. Is one of the very few chemicals I can think of that I'd go for on tastiness grounds alone. Not quite sure how it would work in other forms than smoke though. Peev milkshake anyone?

Also noticed another related chem readily available within the EU (several others too but they seem to be mainly from US vendors - never seen them elsewhere). MeOPP is it? Not quite but maybe and thereabouts. Hadn't really registered before as I'd assumed it was a piperazine going by the nomenclature but is apparently a peev analogue. Only seen it mentioned once around here somewhere and don't recall there being a follow up with any detail. Not that I'm planning any experiments any time soon but as a matter of general interest was just wondering if anybody here had sampled and could report. Only thing I (dimly) recall reading about it was that it was quite a bit less potent than peev which may or may not be a useful feature.

 

[Nicklazz]

I really didn't get along that well with it at all. Although it definitely feels like a related substance it's inferior in every way in my view, and combined with having considerably nastier side-effects it just doesn't seem worth using at all to me. All the bad bits of peev (only worse and with other bad bits) and none of the (arguably) good bits. Not one for me.

That aside, things not so bad with me, thanks. Have been dabbling a wee bit more than I should and planning to not be dabbling for a while at least. Use does tend to creep rather easily and even if I'm sticking to "safe" order amounts I'm still ordering too often and focussed too much on it in the time between orders. The recent a-PVP experience rather put me off for one reason and another and not had an immediate urge to order more since so makes sense to use the opportunity to extend that not ordering whilst fiend is on holiday. The suggested Chinese ban never did seem to be actually confirmed and still no sign of short supply so the reasons/excuses for using again don't really apply either. Not for now anyway. Can never to completely certain with peev as it really does get under the skin far more so than almost any other drug I can think of. But no plans for the foreseeable.

You've been steering clear for quite some time now yourself, no? Nice work - I remember you saying many times you thought you could never stay away but you can just as much as anybody else can if they really make the effort. Good going

Crazy enough it was that bad for you. I like a-pvp, not at all like as much I LOVE MDPV, even with it always fuck me up, but a-pvp still got great effects, for me that is, but that allso fuck me up ofc. Damn em PV RC's :D


Great to hear ya good, and maybe a good idea the PV fiend get sum holiday, small orders or not, if the thinkin/all is about that both when doing it (ofc it is there) and when not using, it's easy can go out of control. We regular PV fiends knows that like ya self do.

Yea I have man its sweet, I am not that controlled of it anymore, the dreams pretty much gone, and not thinkin of it everyday. Its still there yea and I crave it sum times like an crazy, but it is getting much better. Thanks

Another thing that is not sweet, is aMT have got my voices back, So shitey, waking up every morning and it attacks me like an insane until I popped a benzo and sum beers or just sum beers. If I did fall in PV, oh boy it would be one of my most heavy psychosis PV times, and I have had sum pretty intens ones as you maybe remember.

MeOPP is it? Not quite but maybe and thereabouts. Hadn't really registered before as I'd assumed it was a piperazine going by the nomenclature but is apparently a peev analogue. Only seen it mentioned once around here somewhere and don't recall there being a follow up with any detail

You mean 4-MePPP?

If so I have tried that 3 times 1g every time, Anatrica allso tried it. She did seems to like it a little. I tho' say and have been said in past PV thread or the one before, that it is pure waste of cash. You need big amount to come up there to feel it feels just a little like PV + the taste is the worst. A-pvp nothing to this taste 4-MePPP. So pukey allmost.

 

[Shambles]

In hindsight, it didn't occur to me at the time but I'd actually have been in bupe w/d the whole time I was on a-PVP which would perhaps explain a number of the issues I had with it. Not all the issues I had with it but certainly wouldn't have helped endear me to it. I kinda presumed it was similar enough to peev that it would share in the way things not only don't matter and get forgotten, but also really don't matter cos you are oblivious to any mattering they'd otherwise be involved with - masking w/d symptoms, removing nicotine cravings and such like. It didn't though. Did distract me but (with hindsight) I was very much in acute w/d throughout. Must've cancelled out some of the symptoms - or at least masked them - but I suspect largely due to be so focussed on the amount of discomfort I was getting from the direct and indirect effects of a-PVP itself (w/d doesn't cause vasoconstriction and that was the primary source of discomfort I had). Was also extremely emotional - frequent bursting into tears whilst watching things on tellybox, amongst other tear-jerking stimuli of greater and lesser deservings.

It is quite possible I'd dislike it far less if I tried it again without the w/d, but I know I'd never really like it. Just doesn't have the magic thing that makes peev worth all the stuff that surrounds it (well, mostly worth all the stuff that surrounds it some of the time). Specifically it doesn't have the otherworldliness that peev does. That thing peev has where you feel you've come around in some other place, some other place where magic things can happen - and do happen frequently. At least they do on some level. Funny stuff is peev - few drugs are messier, look less appealing, pleasant or enjoyable, are quite so inexplicable for all concerned. No drug can do what peev does though. But the price is a bit steep it must be said

Too steep for me currently. And looks like MePPP is also off the menu. I do remember you mentioning it now, Nick. The nastiness of the smoke in particular. Sounds rather like a much shitier version of a-PVP, and given I wasn't overly enamoured of a-PVP i'll give it's inferior cousin a miss methinks.

That's not good about aMT. I can see how it could maybe trigger those symptoms just with the stimminess and duration - I can't smoke synthetic cannabinoids for similar reasons. They serious do not agree with my mental health. At least I hope it was just my mental health being fukked with. Was quite terrifying enough whatever it was. When a drug messes with you to that extent it's really not worth trying to make it fit. Some things are just not suited to some people. It's a shame aMT is that way for you cos is such nice stuff, but it is pretty manic sometimes so can see how it could perhaps cause problems.