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MDPV Megathread 11: Still sorting all the porn.

No I have not tried that, but hear it dissapoints people looking for peev like effects but frequent insufflation of pentedrone hasn't given any negative side effects like paranoia etc, love the stuff!
 
Good to see ya doing great MDPV_PSYCHOSIS mate <3 So happy to see. Here it is going fine for me too, not touched the devil in a long time, I started craving it like mad but I am not going that way again.

mydrugbuddy said:
as the subtances are vaguely related, is it possible to vape Penterdrone? Has anyone tried that ROA?
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It is a waste to do MDB, have tried it multiple times, its like vaping Ethylphenidate. Waste.
 
Shambles said:
Always a pleasure to see you around these parts, Mr Psycosis <3

Many congrats on the peevish absence. Obvious warnings about getting too deep in the kratom (opiate + SNRI = w/d from hell like you'd never believe :|) but, that aside, mostly Good News <3
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Was this actually proven? Been reading up a lot on kratom recenty and it would appear that overall people were saying that the wd was a lot less harsh than most. This was from people who had been at it for years as well.

I think with kratom, if you avoid the extracts the wd are quite manageable for most (based on what i read anyway).
 
Not sure that "proof" comes into it given we're both basing our beliefs off anecdotal reports. From all I've seen, krartom is a very "messy" drug (as in it splatters several receptors) which would make severe w/d effects seems likely to me. There's plenty personal experience reports that agree. There's some that disagree. Who's lying?!? Probably neither. Messy drug + anecdotal reports = no clear picture - one I have any interest in exploring too deeply.
 
Sorry i didnt mean it to sound like i was saying "your wrong! Show me the proof!" haha. Would just be interested to see if it was definitely a SSRI, as this would lead to harsher consequences from abusing that stuff and may make people think twice before taking it daily.

IMO kratom is one of the lesser evils to be addicted to. This would not be the case if your one of the unlucky people who get horrible extended withdrawals from it, but that would only be made apparent after stopping a long run. If you avoid extracts and multiple doses during the day, then i think for most people its quite a manageable addiction.

As you say, theres no right or wrong answer as it just comes down to the individual at the end of the day.
 
Spliff Politics said:
IMO kratom is one of the lesser evils to be addicted to. This would not be the case if your one of the unlucky people who get horrible extended withdrawals from it, but that would only be made apparent after stopping a long run. If you avoid extracts and multiple doses during the day, then i think for most people its quite a manageable addiction.
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To be fair, more or less the same applies to any addiction: don't take multiple redoses day in, day out and the w/d are generally quite managebale no matter what ;)

Also, kratom is pricey shit. Manageability depends on finances and not being caught short amongst other things.

I tend to agree with most of what you said but "messy" is messy and "messy drugs" are notoriously brutal to come off of. AFAIK, the chemistry is so messy that there's still very little reliable info on what does what. It feels all but indistuinguishable from Tramadol to me which doesn't bode well from a personal perspective :|

YMMV as ever :)
 
Shambles said:
To be fair, more or less the same applies to any addiction: don't take multiple redoses day in, day out and the w/d are generally quite managebale no matter what ;)

Also, kratom is pricey shit. Manageability depends on finances and not being caught short amongst other things.

I tend to agree with most of what you said but "messy" is messy and "messy drugs" are notoriously brutal to come off of. AFAIK, the chemistry is so messy that there's still very little reliable info on what does what. It feels all but indistuinguishable from Tramadol to me which doesn't bode well from a personal perspective :|

YMMV as ever :)
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Well ya see, i was under the impression that it would be fairly cheap as far as addictions go. Let me just try and work it out... Say when your well and truly physically addicted to it; your taking 7gs every 4-5 hours. So thats 3-4 doses in the day, so roughly 25-30g a day (lets call it 28g). 500g of red vein borneo is £70 and if taking 28g a day, this will last 17.8 days. So thats just under £140 for a month. Obviously this is very rough, but not too bad when compared to a proper opiate addiction.

I dont want it to sound like im saying its fine to get addicted to kratom or anything, but IMO its better than being addicted to a lot of drugs. It can also cover a wide range of different drugs that it can help people get off, due to it having both stimulating and opiate effects.

The comparison to Tramadol is worrying though - that sounds like absolute hell to come off 8o With it being a messy drug, you would imagine that its a cunt to come off, but from what ive read more people than not say its a walk in the park to come off.

Apologies, i dont know if we are actually going anywhere with this discussion haha. I think we are pretty much agreeing and me being a tad sped up thought it was worth writing out that post :D

(And i dont mean to tell ya how to mod, but probably best to whack these in the kratom thread) Felt like such a dick writing that haha.
 
According to Amatadinidine Kratom w/ds get progressively worse the longer you use it for. Nothing especially surpsrising about that, but he had this theory that after one months solid use it seriosuly starts changing your brains regulation and function making w/ds that much worse. Ive had several one month binges, and thanks to Ama's warning ive rarely if ever gone beyond one month runs. After that lenth of time my tolerance will have spiralled, but the physical and mental w/ds are manageble, even for a hypochrical lightweight like me. I wouldnt like to push it beyond one month though. One days use= no w/ds at all, so clealry that is a sensible thing to aim for, but in reality it is hard to stick to. Once usage starts running into several days then the mood dip upon cessation can be fairly brutal.
 
Nicklazz said:
Good to see ya doing great MDPV_PSYCHOSIS mate <3 So happy to see. Here it is going fine for me too, not touched the devil in a long time, I started craving it like mad but I am not going that way again.



It is a waste to do MDB, have tried it multiple times, its like vaping Ethylphenidate. Waste.
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ok cheers for the personal experience shareing tip Nicklazz, i will save my lungs and bomb it then, that is once my nose starts to run so much and become so congested it wont take anymore. 8)
 
Stuff's gotten cheaper since I last checked (which was ages ago - quick google suggests you are correct). Without trawling through the entire history of kratom posts, I've still seen far more horror stories than "got off easy that time 8o" ones - more relevantly, they are from people whose knowledge and experience in general is impeccable so tend to trust them personally in the same way you'd probably trust the word of a friend you knew knew their stuff over a collection of internet strangers you know not from Adam.

Thanks for the modtips but frankly more trouble than it's worth and would also spoil the flow of two threads. It's undoubtedly correct that we are but talking in circles so probably best to leave it there for now though.

Peev anyone? I haz hankeringz :sus:
 
mydrugbuddy said:
According to Amatadinidine Kratom w/ds get progressively worse the longer you use it for. Nothing especially surpsrising about that, but he had this theory that after one months solid use it seriosuly starts changing your brains regulation and function making w/ds that much worse. Ive had several one month binges, and thanks to Ama's warning ive rarely if ever gone beyond one month runs. After that lenth of time my tolerance will have spiralled, but the physical and mental w/ds are manageble, even for a hypochrical lightweight like me. I wouldnt like to push it beyond one month though. One days use= no w/ds at all, so clealry that is a sensible thing to aim for, but in reality it is hard to stick to. Once usage starts running into several days then the mood dip upon cessation can be fairly brutal.
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I would love to continue this conversation MDB, but as Shambles is being a lazy toe-rag (a two bit toe rag at that 8o) i dont wanna derail this thread any further.

Okay i'll stop being a sarcastic wang a try and give a quick reply.

Yeah i remember reading about Amatadinidines experience, but after some more searching it seems like hes one of the few unlucky fellows who gets extremely bad withdrawals (and his sounded fucking awful). Having read peoples accounts of being on kratom for years, they say that the withdrawals are still manageable. I dont know if this is a case of them being in denial how bad their addiction is, but even after years of use (strictly leaf and no extracts) eating it multiple times a day, the withdrawals were still none too bad compare to other drugs.

Most recent and largest run i did was 100g in 6-7 days or so. I know this is nothing in the grand scheme of thing, but i havnt experienced any sort of withdrawals or mood-dip after stopping.

Edit - Just read your post Shambles about reading more people having a hard time getting off it than not. Obviously your not telling porkies, but from what ive read its been the exact opposite.

As you said at the very start of this -YMMV haha. Thats all there is to it.
 
LOL @ thread title, I don't have much experience with MDPV at all, but the bit I do have is exactly condensed in that one liner.
 
So I got a 'freepass' to order sum drugs, and yes I needed that to do it, or to make it easier to get all in all.

I was around etizolam pellets, mxe & ofc MDPV.

The etiz I fast got over, but the choice of mxe or MDPV was pretty hard.

These 3 drugs are my favorites. But luckily I ended & have ordered 1g MXE.

In sum way I regret I didn't order PV, but come on. You guys & me know how it would have ended. That's right, bad.

I should be proud to not go that road again. MDPV u was an beautiful angel ended an insane devil, goodbye forever <3.
 
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wish i hadnt started talking about this stuff last night now i want some well was thinking 10 grams before the ban and stashing it but who the fuck am i kidding 10 grams stashed lol more like 10g vaped and me in a straighter jacket
 
Reacquainted myself with the good ol perv powder last month, had two binges in August, one week long, managed the psychosis doing dabs of pure diclazepam powder.

I still love the stuff even after all these years, did alpha-pvp too, found it to be better than I remembered, more euphoric.

Anyway won't touch it again for sure, it reminded me of how easily it can make me its bitch. Nothing else compares in that.

It was a farewell since it's going to be banned EU-wide, sort of like a binge for old time's sake.

Pv will always have a special place in my drug heart. Chasing it on foil in the bathtub with porn playing on the tablet, class, had a few very decent days on it.
 
Since the talk of the ban, I Finally caved in and ordered a 1g of MDPV. I dunno what it is, but there is no other drug that makes me fiend/crave for it long after its gone and its been 5 months since my last endeavor with peev.

I'm a severe heroin addict, among other things, and I really don't seem to enjoy stimulants at all, but there is something unique about this one. I find it to be quite euphoric, tranquil and even mildly possess some entactogen qualities as well, though it can make verbalizing or conversing with people a bit difficult, due to the manner I use it (constant redosing), so it can leave me scatter brained and a tad spaced out, which can be quite frustrating, but nonetheless I prefer using it alone or with a small group of friends.

So.... I just got it in the mail earlier today and have been going at it like a mad man. I literally redose every 15-20 min at dosages ranging from 5-15mg vaped/IV. I just don't get how people can wait an hour or two between doses. I really wish I could and I envy that control, but once i get that first hit in me I'm a slave, as I'm sure others can sympathize with me in those regards. Thankfully, I always have benzos on hand.

I'm usually sensitive to the negative effects of stims, but MDPV actually seems relatively benign on the body, and If proper measures are taken such as rest, food, hydration, It's the only stim where I won't suffer a soul crushing crash, even after a long binge. Well off to take another rip. Much love <3
 
Higher - Do you find your cravings for Heroin lessen a bit while using PV?

Infact that Q's for everyone on any other habitual substance use and addiction... It's an intriguing thought I have had for a while :)
 
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