RCs MDPV - a little harm minimisation thread? (sorry to start another one!)

[Philistine]

Just wanted to do some research specifically on smoking the stuff. Im aware of the dangers and have read plenty of horror stories so, no offence, but all drugs are bad if mistreated and I was hoping this could be focused a little on the technique side of things - namely smoking.
Ive read plenty of negatives about the combustion vs. vape method, but was hoping anyone could offer a little info on the "logistics" of it.
Regarding combustion/burning, the method Im researching is basically just smoking it through a bong with water, using a bed of ash in the cone to sit the stuff on.
few questions and theories here...
Does the basic/alkaline nature of ash have any sort of "freebasing" type effect when burnt with the powder?

it seems that once melted, certain parts of it go black and seem to bond to the ash.. would it be right to assume that this residue/slag would be *some* of the more harmful elements of the combustion process seperating? ie. once melted - would continued heat or even jet flame be a bad idea to try and get those bits smoking as well?

Would there be any benefit to using fresh ash for each dose?

Latest theory has been to mix it in with the ash a little in such a way so that the flame doesnt directly touch the powder.. does anyone reckon this makes ANY difference?

What about using a non flame heat source - ie. soldering iron, car cig lighter or other such heating element?


Anyway, have not found much info that touches on this side of things.. Basically my main question is, are there *better* ways (less harmfull) ways to smokeMDPV using direct heat as opposed to vaping it "meth style"

Thanks in advance!

PS> like I said, i've read heaps of horror stories and I know a lot of people who have tried this substance have some very strong opinions about it, so Im kinda hoping to keep this post informative rather than reading "STAY THE F**K AWAY FROM IT< ITS THE DEVIL" and such. AS with everything, moderation is the key and different strokes for different folks.. so yeah

 

[Philistine]

PPS. Im new here, so if this is in the wrong section of the forum, feel free to let me know - or if youre a mod/admin type dude, feel free to move to the right place. Also happy to accept PMs if anyone prefers that method. And also, my heart goes out to people who have bad experiences - so just know that I do respect your opinions!

 

[mb01]

I've smoked PV for 4 or so years now, pretty much every day too with the odd day off here and there. I've tried smoking/vaping it in almost every vessel, and in every way you could possibly think of, but smoking it through a bong wins hands down by miles!

I actually pack my cone near full of tobacco emptied from unsmoked cigarettes then put about 30mg or so PV on top and pull the whole thing using a jet lighter held quite far back so as to just use the heat and not the flame itself. You watch all the PV vaporize and melt down into the bed of tobacco and then it all starts glowing as the tobacco sets alight, then pull the whole lot in one go and it's a MAD rush that you just cant get any other way of smoking/vaping it.

And it tastes so much nicer also. Most of the time I smoke with no water in my bong for better hits, depending on how my lungs feel though.

Also, a gas powered soldering iron is awesome to use for a smoother vape, the ones that glow red hot inside the tip. Just point it at your cone and watch it vape perfectly every time!