psyrotikon
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For long time i have read in many places positive tales about the combo of MDMA + 2CB on the tail (fade , post peak) ?€?Mr Shulgin itself in Pihkal says that "This combination has several enthusiastic advocates in the psychotherapy world"
I think i know mdma pretty well , although luckily i havent done it enough times to "burn it" for me or as they say "lose the magic" probably an average of once a year?€?.as for the 2cb i have really just began my experiences with it and there's a report of mine about a positive experience of 2cb combined with phenibut here: http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/798326-25-mg-of-2CB-Hbr-No-effect!!! (the report is in the end of the thread)
anyway i think i still haven't grab exacty the nature of 2cb and will need more experiences in the future.
I admit my interest in 2cb were mostly due to the fame of aphrodisiac or erotic drugs (once again Mr SHulgin itself wrote "If there is anything ever found to be an effective aphrodisiac, it will probably be patterned after 2C-B in structure.")
So for years i was really curious about this aphrodisiac cmbo bomb and got very excited when i finally organized the perfect setting.
I went to a tropical lush island green as green can be, palms, gentle breeze, perfect temperature, turquoise water a real postcard beach!! My partner is a stunning asian girl, beautiful and sexy, lovely smile , perfect body?€?.She never had any previous experience with psychedelics , except smoking weed and it was her second experience with MDMA
we booked a small villa right on the beach cozy, with nice furniture even had a small private pool on the back?€?
So on the designated day , around 14 o clock we took both 110 mg of pure clean, MDMA?€?i was quite excited and nervous, we both were. 40 minute after the ingestion though the nervousness was completely gone and the magic had began, simple perfect without any entrance itchyness?€?
As a pure love ecstatic session this was probably the best in my life, really clean substance sure, but also perfect setting and partner, we were literally flowing from each other mouth, from each other skin?€?we spent the first 2 hours rolling (literally) in the villa, or in the patio, in or around the pool, then somewhere after 16.30 we decided to take a stroll on the beach?€?
Th beach was glorious , majestic in her beauty, we felt really a strong unity between ourselves and the nature around us
€?there were only few people around playing in the water or running around a ball on the beach?€?.in other words we welt harmony?€? we walked slowly hugging and kissing til the end of the beach and then eventually reverting our way?€?.Around 18 i watched a group a darker clouds and i felt for the first time this afternoon something different: that cloud was not part of me anymore, not benign anymore, it was a dark cloud ?€?.just a tiny little hidden hint of negativity but since that i knew it?€?i was clearly past the peak of the MDMA trip, time to proceed with the plan! so we went back home and we took 20mg of HBR 2CB each?€? and bam! exactly half an hour later our world changed suddenly and drastically. AT first it was a really stong buzz of energy coming so strong that we had to lay down, the most peculiar thing is that in few seconds it was like the MDMA effect was completely and immediately gone forever?€?no more unity, no more harmony, suddenly we were 2 individuals fighting for each one survival. We split phisycally i started walking around , preparing myself for the psychedelic experience (yes it was definetely a psy feeling kicking in with violence) just trying to settle with the feelings , going with the flow, alone?€?.My partner though had a complete negative experience since the beginning?€?she also felt alone and disconnected but also she felt like she was not able to cope with the burts of energy?€?She kept repeating, i am losing control, I am not OK, i am not OK in a loop?€?Some of her recent problems surfaced violently and obsessively, apparently she borrow some money from a friend and she was not able to give it back and this unsettled her . Even when she explained me the situation in details the day after, it seemed to me like a minor life problem something that a little time and patience will fix anyhow, but in that time it was an obsessive thought for her?€?The night finally settle in and it started raining and the darkness seemed cold and unfriendly?€?.i started seeing tribal faces , tribal mask out of vegetation mask, it was not scary, it was quite interesting in fact but i couldnt properly manage to let the psychedelia flow?€?.I tried to help her as much as i can , put some nice chill tribal psy music in the fashion of "kalya scintilla" speak her softly trying to persuade her to leave the problems for tomorrow , focus on the music , on the body feeling , on the colours (we started to see colored patterns with closed eyes)?€?it didnt really work for her and it was quite difficult for me to stay still on the bed with so much inner energy unexploded?€?
later the rain finished and we went again for a night stroll on the beach?€? in this moment we had a few good funny laughs and i thought the worst was past for her but unfortunately it was just momentary?€?on the beach. she kept complaining , only few hours has past but god how far was the glorious moment of before?€?now i felt disconnected and almost ennoyed by her, she complained and was biting me and pinching , not really in a sexy way though?€?
ARound 22 (4 hours after 2cb injestion) effects were finally fading and we layed in the bed talking softly , like 2 friends, about our experiences it was a nice moment a "real moment"?€?we didnt have the energy or the will for sex anymore though?€?.
In retrospective i think it is possible that i have mistaken the timings and the dosage?€?.i should have probably waited another hour and given 12mg for her and maybe 16mg for me?€?.With my first experiments with 2cb HBR (another batch though) i couldnt feel nothing with 12mg and when i coupled with phenibut i didnt almost feel nothing til 25mg?€?.
The real issue anyway is that with any kind of psychedelic you never really know what is going to happen, you cannot really "plan" the experience just settle for the open adventure!!
As for the fact that 2cb smoothes the usual nastiness of the MDMA fading : well in our case we went from full ecstatic to 0 in 1 minute net!!! and then when 2cb was fading we were only happy and relieved about it!!! so for sure no depression feelings !!!
And the aphrodisiac , erotic side? no response there AT ALL!! once again when you play with psychedelics i guess you cannot really have expectations cause everything can happen and the opposite.
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I think i know mdma pretty well , although luckily i havent done it enough times to "burn it" for me or as they say "lose the magic" probably an average of once a year?€?.as for the 2cb i have really just began my experiences with it and there's a report of mine about a positive experience of 2cb combined with phenibut here: http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/798326-25-mg-of-2CB-Hbr-No-effect!!! (the report is in the end of the thread)
anyway i think i still haven't grab exacty the nature of 2cb and will need more experiences in the future.
I admit my interest in 2cb were mostly due to the fame of aphrodisiac or erotic drugs (once again Mr SHulgin itself wrote "If there is anything ever found to be an effective aphrodisiac, it will probably be patterned after 2C-B in structure.")
So for years i was really curious about this aphrodisiac cmbo bomb and got very excited when i finally organized the perfect setting.
I went to a tropical lush island green as green can be, palms, gentle breeze, perfect temperature, turquoise water a real postcard beach!! My partner is a stunning asian girl, beautiful and sexy, lovely smile , perfect body?€?.She never had any previous experience with psychedelics , except smoking weed and it was her second experience with MDMA
we booked a small villa right on the beach cozy, with nice furniture even had a small private pool on the back?€?
So on the designated day , around 14 o clock we took both 110 mg of pure clean, MDMA?€?i was quite excited and nervous, we both were. 40 minute after the ingestion though the nervousness was completely gone and the magic had began, simple perfect without any entrance itchyness?€?
As a pure love ecstatic session this was probably the best in my life, really clean substance sure, but also perfect setting and partner, we were literally flowing from each other mouth, from each other skin?€?we spent the first 2 hours rolling (literally) in the villa, or in the patio, in or around the pool, then somewhere after 16.30 we decided to take a stroll on the beach?€?
Th beach was glorious , majestic in her beauty, we felt really a strong unity between ourselves and the nature around us
€?there were only few people around playing in the water or running around a ball on the beach?€?.in other words we welt harmony?€? we walked slowly hugging and kissing til the end of the beach and then eventually reverting our way?€?.Around 18 i watched a group a darker clouds and i felt for the first time this afternoon something different: that cloud was not part of me anymore, not benign anymore, it was a dark cloud ?€?.just a tiny little hidden hint of negativity but since that i knew it?€?i was clearly past the peak of the MDMA trip, time to proceed with the plan! so we went back home and we took 20mg of HBR 2CB each?€? and bam! exactly half an hour later our world changed suddenly and drastically. AT first it was a really stong buzz of energy coming so strong that we had to lay down, the most peculiar thing is that in few seconds it was like the MDMA effect was completely and immediately gone forever?€?no more unity, no more harmony, suddenly we were 2 individuals fighting for each one survival. We split phisycally i started walking around , preparing myself for the psychedelic experience (yes it was definetely a psy feeling kicking in with violence) just trying to settle with the feelings , going with the flow, alone?€?.My partner though had a complete negative experience since the beginning?€?she also felt alone and disconnected but also she felt like she was not able to cope with the burts of energy?€?She kept repeating, i am losing control, I am not OK, i am not OK in a loop?€?Some of her recent problems surfaced violently and obsessively, apparently she borrow some money from a friend and she was not able to give it back and this unsettled her . Even when she explained me the situation in details the day after, it seemed to me like a minor life problem something that a little time and patience will fix anyhow, but in that time it was an obsessive thought for her?€?The night finally settle in and it started raining and the darkness seemed cold and unfriendly?€?.i started seeing tribal faces , tribal mask out of vegetation mask, it was not scary, it was quite interesting in fact but i couldnt properly manage to let the psychedelia flow?€?.I tried to help her as much as i can , put some nice chill tribal psy music in the fashion of "kalya scintilla" speak her softly trying to persuade her to leave the problems for tomorrow , focus on the music , on the body feeling , on the colours (we started to see colored patterns with closed eyes)?€?it didnt really work for her and it was quite difficult for me to stay still on the bed with so much inner energy unexploded?€?later the rain finished and we went again for a night stroll on the beach?€? in this moment we had a few good funny laughs and i thought the worst was past for her but unfortunately it was just momentary?€?on the beach. she kept complaining , only few hours has past but god how far was the glorious moment of before?€?now i felt disconnected and almost ennoyed by her, she complained and was biting me and pinching , not really in a sexy way though?€?
ARound 22 (4 hours after 2cb injestion) effects were finally fading and we layed in the bed talking softly , like 2 friends, about our experiences it was a nice moment a "real moment"?€?we didnt have the energy or the will for sex anymore though?€?.
In retrospective i think it is possible that i have mistaken the timings and the dosage?€?.i should have probably waited another hour and given 12mg for her and maybe 16mg for me?€?.With my first experiments with 2cb HBR (another batch though) i couldnt feel nothing with 12mg and when i coupled with phenibut i didnt almost feel nothing til 25mg?€?.
The real issue anyway is that with any kind of psychedelic you never really know what is going to happen, you cannot really "plan" the experience just settle for the open adventure!!
As for the fact that 2cb smoothes the usual nastiness of the MDMA fading : well in our case we went from full ecstatic to 0 in 1 minute net!!! and then when 2cb was fading we were only happy and relieved about it!!! so for sure no depression feelings !!!
And the aphrodisiac , erotic side? no response there AT ALL!! once again when you play with psychedelics i guess you cannot really have expectations cause everything can happen and the opposite.
Tagged by Xorkoth
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