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(MDMAI/150mg) First time - Dissapointing but worth trying

Bidybag

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About 3 weeks ago I received 150mg of MDMAI from a good supplier. I had heard of this chemical before and realised that a lot of vendors would claim they had it in stock but not actually sell it. I was told to expect something very similar to 6-APB and even maybe slightly better. I tried looking for a few reports but I only found a few. It seemed like everybody would talk about MDMAI but not actually have had any. Since I was told this was supposed to be a competitor to 6-APB, I am going to my best to compare it to 6-APB.

12.13pm – Last experiment was with B2 a week before. Had 2 apples a few hours before taking the capsule. Put 150mg of MDMAI into an empty capsule and bombed it in one go.

12.37pm – I can feel myself coming up. It’s been around 34 mins and this time scale pretty much matches 6-APB.

12.53pm – Still feel myself coming up like on 6-APB. I keep getting slight head tingles which I don’t usually get on other chemicals.

1.26pm – It’s been just over one hour and this is about when I am usually peaking. For some reason I am not dancing. Usually on 6-APB I would be dancing now. My glowsticks haven’t come out. The only difference so far is that I am talking a lot more than usual and saying things I wouldn’t normally say.

2.09pm – Bee around 2 hours now and still not dancing and there is still no euphoria. I am very disappointed so far because all it has done is make me talk a lot more. I was expecting a lot of euphoria at this point. I don’t even care about music, it’s on quiet and I am not too bothered if it’s on or off.

2.40pm – I am actually very bored and looking for something to do. Time isn’t going anymore faster than usual. I am drinking more than I would usually drink though. I am not feeling speedy and not too bothered about talking to people or socializing.

2.52pm – Some effects I have noticed in the past few hours are that it has been slightly trippy. I am getting tracers in my eyes and things are slow at updating in my eyes. It’s like my eyes are updating the last image slower. It’s hard to focus on one thing at once. I definitely feel different and could not pass myself off as normal.

2.56pm – Sadly the trippyness element of it isn’t enough and I am sitting here very bored. I am physically yawning and feeling much more tired than usual. It’s like it has drained all the life out of it. I couldn’t even dance if I wanted to at this point. It’s done the opposite of what 6-APB has done.

This was the first half of the experiment. From this point on everything changed. I am not sure if it’s a delayed reaction because from this point on it turned into a new chemical. It’s been 3 hours and 15 min since dosing.

3.35pm - I am noticing a change in my head. It feels like a different type of euphoria is approaching. If anything, the effects should be getting lower considering it’s been so long since dosing.

3.54pm – I am still talking a lot of shit and talking way more than usual. I am starting to get a nice feeling now but there is still no dance/rave/love feeling.

4.28pm – Its been 4 hours since dosing and the euphoria has just turned pretty amazing. Its been slowly building up for the last hour. I am thinking, where did all this euphoria suddenly come from and why did it take so long. There are no rushes which is slightly disappointing. Touching things feels amazing and touching my skin is really nice.

5.39pm – The euphoria isn’t going anywhere. It’s exactly the same as it was before. I am feeling really happy, calm and relaxed. Still trying to working out why it took so long to come, considering it takes a maximum of 2 hours on 6-APB.

6pm – Although the euphoria is here, it doesn’t necessarily mean I am having an amazing time. I am still just as bored as before and I am struggling to find things to do. I have no energy and can’t be bothered doing anything. Usually other chemicals make me want to do things and enjoy it. I am sitting here thinking about all my Serotonin going to waste. I am able to eat just fine which is odd because other chemical supress my appetite for around 24 hours.

6.45pm – There is slightly less euphoria than before but it’s still here. It’s been around 2 hours with really strong euphoria. In a way I am relived it’s coming to an end because I feel like it’s going to waste.

8.14pm – I am very tired now. I have never had a chemical that has sucked so much life out of me and made me so bored before. The euphoria was amazing but that’s all it was. It’s like the day went from slightly trippy to all euphoria, it felt like two different chemicals.

12.43am – Just been sitting back on chair past few hours doing nothing like the rest of the day. There is still euphoria here but now I have a headache. I don’t usually get a headache on chemicals, not like this. It isn’t too bad but I do consider taking a headache tablet which would be a first for me. The headache does eventually go though.

1.53am – It’s been 13 hours since I took the capsule and I have no idea what I have done all day. I go to bed at around this time.

Summary
MDMAI wasn’t a total let down. The first half of the experiment was a disaster though. I was bored, nothing to do and just waiting for it to end and wishing I had something else to take. It sucked the life out of me and made me very tired and sleepy. This was probably the first time I have ever yawned on a chemical. The second half of the experiment was much better, a ton of euphoria just came from nowhere. I felt really happy, relaxed and calm. The euphoria was probably equal to what I get from 6-APB but the problem was I had nothing to do with it. I still felt drained and bored. Other chemicals make me want to do things and at least talk to people. But with MDMAI, I wasn’t too bothered about talking to people or socializing. The only reason I was talking more, was just to try and pass the time for something to do. This is a very good chemical for producing euphoria but I wish it did more than just that.

Potential mixes
MDMAI on its own was disappointing but I do think this would be a great chemical mixed with something else. The problem with MDMAI is that you can get really bored on it with nothing to do so adding a chemical in there would give you the push needed.

AMT + MDMAI – I think this one has the most potential. Some people claim they only get a trippyness element from AMT and no euphoria. For these people, adding some MDMAI with AMT would give you all the euphoria you need and the whole trippyness of AMT. Personally I get a lot of euphoria from AMT on its own but this is one I would definitely like to try.
B2 + MDMAI – This one sounds like it can be fun although it’s hard to say because we don’t know for sure what is in B2. I don’t get a ton of euphoria from B2 so adding MDMAI with B2 would probably make the B2 high last a lot longer. Since B2 only lasts around 2 hours per line, the MDMAI could possibly extend this adding a whole new element to the B2.
6-APB + MDMAI – This one could potentially be dangerous and I would not recommend it. Mixing two SSRI drugs increases the risk of serotonin syndrome. The only way I would do this mix is if both of the dosages were very low. Still not worth trying though because 6-APB has more than enough euphoria on its own.
MXE + MDMAI – I am not a huge fan of MXE but I have had a few enjoyable trips with it. The problem with MXE is that it produces no euphoria but is very fun. Adding MDMAI with MXE would take the boringness out of MDMAI and add a whole new level to the trip.

All these potential mixes are just guess work. I am sure a few people on the forums have already tried a few and I am interested in hearing how they got on. Please do your own research before trying them and do so at your own risk, mixing chemicals can be dangerous.

Is this the next big thing?
Unfortunately on its own, MDMAI is not the next big thing. MDMAI is a chemical that shouldn’t be compared to 6-APB or any others. It is a chemical unique in its own way. This is not a competitor for 6-APB and should not be treated like one. I can see this chemical satisfying a lot of people but unfortunately it is not for me. I am looking for something more in a chemical than just producing euphoria. I also wonder why so many companies claim they have it in stock, but when you check the website they don’t actually sell it. I emailed a few of them asking why they have “MDMAI” in their website description but don’t sell it. The answers were basically the same, claiming it’s a chemical that just never took off. Luckily this chemical hasn’t been hyped up like many others so it is in a good place at the moment.

MDMAI vs 6-APB
The are some big differences in these chemicals but there is one thing which is very similar, that is the amount of euphoria it produces. Both MDMAI and 6-APB produce around the same amount of euphoria, both making you very happy and relaxed. I usually get rushes from 6-APB but there were no rushes from MDMAI. The reason I take 6-APB is for the whole dancing, raving and loved up feeling. I did not get any of this on MDMAI. It did the total opposite. It drained me and made me very tired and lazy. I could never take MDMAI out in a clubbing/social environment on its own because I would simply just not want to do anything. 6-APB still remains my favourite clubbing chemical. I was really hoping that MDMAI would be a competitor but sadly it isn’t.

Is it worth buying?
Although I found it disappointing, I still think it’s worth buying and trying it out for yourself. For people that love a constant strong supply of euphoria, then this is a great chemical for you. Just don’t be expecting much more than that. Not sure on the prices yet so I can’t say if its value for money or not. If MDMAI is the same price as 6-APB then I would say it’s not worth getting and you may as well buy 6-APB instead. But my guess is that MDMAI will be much cheaper. So overall, it’s worth trying on its own and then look into potential mixes in the future, which is what I will be doing.
 
Great report with good overview!

Though I don't know why you thought MDMAI should be similar to 6-APB, even its structure suggests that it should(and it is) close to MDAI. Have you tried MDAI to make a comparison?
 
Great report with good overview!

Though I don't know why you thought MDMAI should be similar to 6-APB, even its structure suggests that it should(and it is) close to MDAI. Have you tried MDAI to make a comparison?

I was told by the company that supplied it to me that this would be the 6-APB competitor and from their personal experience and reports, that it may even be slightly better.

I have not tried MDAI on its own so I cant compare it to MDMAI. I have tried an MDAI+MPA mix. There is a lot more euphoria with MDMAI compared to that mix but with with my MDAI+MPA mix I wasn't as bored.
 
Very nice trip report. it gives a very good idea of what MDMAI is.

But please, do your self a favor, and don´t take stuff like that B2. No body knows what´s in it. It´s most definitely a mix of different compounds. And to make it worse, you never know if they suddenly change the formula.
 
The reason only entactogenic effects were released rather than energy and euphoria is because since the core structure of the compound is no longer of a phenethylamine but an aminoindane structure making it non-neurotoxic because when the core structure was changed to an aminoindane it gains different properties such as causing a total opposite effect on your serotonin allowing re-uptake rather than depletion meaning you won't get depressed of have a hangover. All phenethylamines and amphetamines will cause you to have a hangover because most of them generally tend to block the transporter which will cause disintegration of your neurotransmitters. If I were you since you are being smart enough to use this rather than MDMA and not risking brain damage let alone body damage you might as well find a supplement or vitamin or something that will give you the extra boost of energy than you are looking for.
 
Sorry mate but that's a load of bullshit. MDAI and MDMA both release Serotonin from the pre-synaptic vesicles as well as reverse the re-uptake channels to fire out Serotonin. The difference is MDAI is highly selective for Serotonin but also a weaker releaser (1/3rd as potent I believe) and MDMA also has this effect on dopamine and Norepinephrine neurones. The simultaneous release of Dopamine and Serotonin allows Dopamine to enter Serotonin synapses and be metabolized, yielding oxygen radicals which damage the neurone. When damage occurs your brain downregulates Serotonin neurones to prevent further damage and hence you feel as if you have less Serotonin.

To OP: MDMAI should still function as a selective Serotonin release assay. Therefore you need a dopamine releaser combined to create the energy and euphoria you associate with triple releasers like 6-APB. I'm surprised you got any euphoria at all.
 
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