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MDMAgic's /roll Preperation / Break Between rolls

ITS GOOD to space out your pills,
I have trouble spacing out my pills, gotta 3 pill a day habbit i feel so lost without ex
 
Wolfy90 said:
Yeah I have no self control becuase when I hear club, I automanically think E, women in sexxy outfits, music and lights and I cant stop feeling that urge like I have no choice but to go becuase I get my dances in make out with a few girls and have a hell of a time. I cant say no. =/

However, Im dwindling down on my supply of e so thats scarring me as well. I cant find a dealer that has it anymore which hinders it but hell it is the summer after all ahaha <3
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The plain and simple truth is if you don't slow down you are going to fuck yourself up for a very very long time and it will take a very very long time for you to recover. I abused E for about 2 years...it took longer than that for all the bad effects to go away after I quit. even after 3 or 4 years I would say I was only 70-80% recovered and I still have a few things that I developed after abusing E that are still around to this day and I am 10 years clean and sober.

I hope you do get you meph and abuse it too just because from what I have heard it does a better and quicker job at killing the magic of MDMA and rasing MDMA tolerance. maybe after the you have done enough meph that MDMA stops working for you you will stop abusing it m (but then you would be abusing the meph all the time and that just as bad if not worse)
 
avcpl said:
I had four rolls prior to using piracitam. My first two were incredible, but the next two were the next day and then 17 days later--way too close and not the same at all. Thought I lost the magic for good. Took a long break, tried piracitam and while the rolls were good, it did not live up to the "like the first time" so I was ultimately disappointed. So like I said, keep your expectations in check and you'll have a better time! :)
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So what you're saying is for us to expect a better experience if we don't expect a better experience? ;)
 
Piracetam is a wonderful drug and has helped me not only get the magic back but i can actually concentrate and my memory went from absolutly none at all (short term) to being able to remember everybodys name that i meet now. Do take it with choline cuz it can give u wicked headaches if u dont.
 
It worked for me! Unfortunately mixed too much alcohol to quantify. (that was dumb). I will definetely preload with piracetam each time I roll from now on
 
This sounds pretty neat if it's true. At the very least it sounds like there are some mild neuroprotective effects. That counts for something by itself, even if it doesn't amplify the feeling.

I've heard other people comparing piracetam to some of the other -tams. Anyone have experience with its' cousins?
 
Glad to see this old thread back-to-back I've since become quite the piracetam cheerleader. I find the optimal dose before mdma is to start taking piracetam ONLY 48 hours prior to rolling, at 800 mgs twice a day. I find taking it for weeks prior to rolling diminishes the effects. It makes mdma more potent, more "clear" feeling mentally, and has elliminated negative comedown effects for me.
 
Today, its 7 days after my roll, preloaded with Piracetam. I had absolutely no down moment during the week. Only the next day, my concentration was just a little off. I rolled as hard as I normally do with half mdma. Can be Placebo, I dont care... My previous roll was 3 months ago.
 
MDMAgic's gone?

I've only taken MDMA three times: 2 months ago, the day after and tonight. The first & second times were absolutely fabulous (although the 2nd one - not as intense), but now - absolutely nothing happened. I pre-loaded with 2000mg of Vitamin C and Green Tea Extract 6 hours before the roll, swallowed a capsule that was supposed to contain 100mg of pure MDMA, aaaaaaand...

Nothing. I did sweat a lot, experienced very minor jaw clenching and my pupils were slightly dilated, but I believe all of this can be attributed to ridiculous amounts of dancing, sweating, and not drinking too much. Oh, and my heart rate never went up like it used to. I would love to say the caps were fake, but I got them from a good friend and I doubt he'd cheat me. So, what is more probable: me fucking everything up by taking MDMA two nights in a row or a friend giving me dud pills? I'm really concerned, because I was looking forward to years upon years of beautiful experiences and can't believe the magic might have disappeared just like that. ='(

Edit: Just had a better look at the mirror, and my puplis really are dilated.
 
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I'd seriously doubt that the magic would just go away after two heavy days of rollin - me and people I've known have done worse and still would be cool with normal doses 2 weeks later. Not to mention if you waited two months (which should fully recooprate your tolerance) 100 mg of mdma should have been better than your first roll. It seems like a bunk molly, sorry bro.
 
I think personal experience is important Rageius but maybe his chemistry is different from yours.

I'd say wait a month or two then try another 100mg, test it first! If nothing happens, then you've got your answer. :(
 
Sounds like you got some bunk pills. Even though you rolled back to back that was over two months ago, you should be fine. Maybe your friend didn't realise they were bunk pills, maybe he doesn't try his own product. Or maybe he only gets pipes so he doesn't know what good MDMA should feel like. Get a test kit.
 
I would say bunk pills - unless you were doing stupid amounts of MDMA the night before you should still feel something off 100mgs of MDMA.

Take a break, get yourself a test kit.

I would think its impossible to lose the magik after such a small amount of rolling.
 
Since you said "capsule" rather than pill, I assume that it was a capsule with 100 mg of molly. The thing with molly is that it is often laced with inactive powders. When I roll, I like to shoot for 150 mg of MDMA. This sometimes requires up to 250 mg of less than pure molly. Since 100 mg is on the low end dose wise (before it was illegal, a standard therapeutic dose was 125 mg) if the molly was only 60% MDMA, you would have only gotten 60 mg which really isn't enough to roll. This explanation is much more likely than you losing the magic on your 3rd roll.
 
killermunchies said:
Since you said "capsule" rather than pill, I assume that it was a capsule with 100 mg of molly. The thing with molly is that it is often laced with inactive powders. When I roll, I like to shoot for 150 mg of MDMA. This sometimes requires up to 250 mg of less than pure molly. Since 100 mg is on the low end dose wise (before it was illegal, a standard therapeutic dose was 75-125 mg) if the molly was only 60% MDMA, you would have only gotten 60 mg which really isn't enough to roll. This explanation is much more likely than you losing the magic on your 3rd roll.
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Fixed for you. It's an even lower range for smaller and more sensitive people.
 
The strange increase of availability...

There has been a shift in consumer confidence in one product as opposed to the next as time has moved on. In the beginning people had confidence in pressed tablets as they sort of signified an organization and a trust similar to that one might find in other more legitimate consumer industries. If the right name and person appears on the box you assume it'll be a good box of cereal. AS time went on the naive consumer clung to the confidence that one might assume comes in every pressed pill while more in tune distributors knew that the largest doses and most pure product were found in "Molly" (a name customers, not chemists, gave to a product). Soon thereafter the consumer wanted the pure "molecule" as well. Of course, as demand for pure and domestically produced MDMA.HCl or "Molly" increased so did the intentions of people who just wanted to make more money by supplying less drugs for the same price thereby increasing their profit margin. Now the pressed pills are generally garbage but the "Molly" is not any better. Sometimes they don't even have the good tact to learn how to cut it so as if to look like real drugs and it simply looks like brown sugar.

What is the point I am trying to convey? Well the entire World's supply of sassafras oil, the most cost efficient source for producing MDMA, has decreased to a point of being practically non-existent and somehow the supply of "Molly" has increased and the price has decreased with it. It doesn't take an economist to figure that out. Simply stated the people competing for your business treat MDMA like coke dealer treat cocaine. They know you will buy it for pretty much the same price regardless of the quality so they buy the cheapest thing available. Trust me, I used to sell the purest MDMA.HCl on the market, period. The dealer would buy complete dirt from the competition and that was what the consumer got but they would refused to take the stuff they sold to the consumer. That was the only time they bought anything, when they wanted to take something themselves. They wouldn't take any of that stuff they pushed on customers themselves. It was a sorted affair and I decided if I wasn't going to make any money for providing the best product on the market then there was no return on my investment paid in risk and fraught with danger. So now all there is in most local markets is stuff that is 25-50% or not MDMA.HCl at all or some combination of the drugs you wanted and some drug you really didn't and the next day you know why you didn't, for sure. Welcome to the next decade. Sadly, MDMA.HCl is getting to be like LSD. 90-95% of what is available is either cut so low that you can barely feel it or it isn't the drug you want at all. Trust me on this one: Most of the MDMA you buy now days is not MDMA. I fear many young people these day might not even know the difference because there is so little actual MDMA in the underground market these days.

Moriarty
 
Moriarty said:
There has been a shift in consumer confidence in one product as opposed to the next as time has moved on. In the beginning people had confidence in pressed tablets as they sort of signified an organization and a trust similar to that one might find in other more legitimate consumer industries. If the right name and person appears on the box you assume it'll be a good box of cereal. AS time went on the naive consumer clung to the confidence that one might assume comes in every pressed pill while more in tune distributors knew that the largest doses and most pure product were found in "Molly" (a name customers, not chemists, gave to a product). Soon thereafter the consumer wanted the pure "molecule" as well. Of course, as demand for pure and domestically produced MDMA.HCl or "Molly" increased so did the intentions of people who just wanted to make more money by supplying less drugs for the same price thereby increasing their profit margin. Now the pressed pills are generally garbage but the "Molly" is not any better. Sometimes they don't even have the good tact to learn how to cut it so as if to look like real drugs and it simply looks like brown sugar.

What is the point I am trying to convey? Well the entire World's supply of sassafras oil, the most cost efficient source for producing MDMA, has decreased to a point of being practically non-existent and somehow the supply of "Molly" has increased and the price has decreased with it. It doesn't take an economist to figure that out. Simply stated the people competing for your business treat MDMA like coke dealer treat cocaine. They know you will buy it for pretty much the same price regardless of the quality so they buy the cheapest thing available. Trust me, I used to sell the purest MDMA.HCl on the market, period. The dealer would buy complete dirt from the competition and that was what the consumer got but they would refused to take the stuff they sold to the consumer. That was the only time they bought anything, when they wanted to take something themselves. They wouldn't take any of that stuff they pushed on customers themselves. It was a sorted affair and I decided if I wasn't going to make any money for providing the best product on the market then there was no return on my investment paid in risk and fraught with danger. So now all there is in most local markets is stuff that is 25-50% or not MDMA.HCl at all or some combination of the drugs you wanted and some drug you really didn't and the next day you know why you didn't, for sure. Welcome to the next decade. Sadly, MDMA.HCl is getting to be like LSD. 90-95% of what is available is either cut so low that you can barely feel it or it isn't the drug you want at all. Trust me on this one: Most of the MDMA you buy now days is not MDMA. I fear many young people these day might not even know the difference because there is so little actual MDMA in the underground market these days.

Moriarty
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It must just depend on the market you live in. I can get both MDMA and LSD on a semi-consistent bases and I am by no means that well connected. The molly I get usually comes through a friend of a friend or something like that. When I buy molly, it's nearly pure about half the time and it's never been worse than around 60% as far as I can tell. While I have no equipment to test for purity, I'm pretty sure that the best stuff I've had was nearly pure because I got an excellent roll off of 120 mg. The most I've had to take was 250 mg and that got me a roll better than the pure 120 mg got me. The molly I get has never been laced with anything active as far as I can tell. If it has, I haven't noticed the difference. I have gotten terrible, speed laced tabs though.

As far as LSD goes, it has been all or nothing for me in my limited experience. The acid I've bought has either worked great or done nothing at all. While both drugs are commonly adulterated, it hasn't gotten to the point for me where they aren't worth my time and money.
 
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Has Anyone Ever rolled but never got that happy feeling?

Ever rolled but never got that happy feeling? Like u feel everything else but you're mood stays the same. As in if u has no feelings at all?
Thats what it was like on my last experience. My friend was in a happy mood but I wasn't.
 
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