MDMA the night before Mushrooms- would piracetam help?

[exm]

So... my friend wants to roll this Saturday night and then trip on mushrooms Sunday morning. I'm uneasy about this because of the lack of serotonin one has after taking MDMA.

Would piracetam have any positive effects on the trips if I were to take it on the come down from the MDMA?

Or am I just asking for a bad trip?

 

[iamstone]

what does mdma have to do with it... i heard ppl take it together

u prob wont wanna do it after u dropped since ur already down... and u might have a real bad trip!!

 

[Swedish Penguin]

piracetam could get ur brain back to normal faster, but i wouldnt ever mix it with shrooms or another psychedelic.
you could sorta play it by ear: if you have an afterglow and arent totally burned out from rolling, shrooms could be ok, but if you are burned out i would say no go. you will have less serotonin and other monoamines and be pretty tired. if it was me i wouldnt, but who knows how your friend will react.

shrooms day before rolling should work without problem though. (obviously)

 

[cryptix420]

I find it's more fun to do the opposite. Kinda like with dinner & a movie...I'd much rather do movie & a dinner. You watch the movie and then will have tons to talk about during dinner.

In this situation, you could take the shrooms and have an awesome journey, then the next day roll and be super open to talk about everything you experienced.


Anyway, about the piracetam, it's generally recommended to take the piracetam for several days leading up to the roll, or perhaps an hour or two before. Taking it after you come down is also good, just don't take it during the roll. I've heard of people killing their rolls this way.

Watch your dosage, piracetam allows you to take less MDMA; if you take your normal amount there's a good change of barfing.

 

[JBrandon]

The important question is actually:

WHY AREN'T YOU TAKING THEM TOGETHER?

Forget doing drugs two days in a row... that's one of the greatest combinations there is. Combine! Hippyflip!

 

[timps]

If you need to drugs both days then mushrooms first day, mdma the second would be better.
Or a hippyflip and a sober day- that's just my preference though

 

[exm]

I candyflipped a month or two ago and the experience was a little overwhelming. I enjoyed myself, but I get so emotional while tripping on mushrooms that I wonder just how overwhelming hippieflipping would be.

This was all my friends idea doing it in this order and while I'd rather trip and then roll, I want to have a day trip and she can't get here until night time so if we wanted to do both this weekend and not at the same time, this is how it would have to be done.

I have no intention of taking the piracetam during anything. I would only take it once I was completely sure I was coming off of the MDMA (not just, oh, this isn't as intense as 10 minutes ago- but- I don't really feel the effects of the MDMA anymore).

I'm really new to piracetam use so I didn't know if it would help me with the mushrooms as I don't want to have a bad trip from the lack of seratonin that using MDMA causes the day after.

I'm most likely going to ask my friend to rethink doing both this weekend and just save the MDMA for another time as we have been wanting to trip together for a very long time.

But I figured I'd ask here about doing them on separate occasions in that order as neither of us have done so.

Sorry, for the novel....

 

[Solipsis]

Piracetam will probably not help the amount of serotonin or something like that, it just doesn't work that way. It enhances trips though, for better or worse.

I'd say don't do them both in the same weekend and make it a single special experience each time instead. The order is no good IMO like the other said. You could reconsider doing an evening/night trip and rolling during the day, maybe it is not what is usually done but both are quite fun and can be special in their own right. See the MDMA as an empathogenic psychedelic instead of a night-time party drug and you might have an emotionally opening therapeutic beautiful experience. It's a little different than at a party for instance but I might even like MDMA more when done at home during the day. A great party is one thing, but a magical special experience in all the peace and mellowness of the day... wow

I've used piracetam only with LSD, not mushrooms. It was different, definitely enhanced, stronger in a way but mostly in a qualitative way not quantitative if that makes any sense. I would still say be careful with piracetam + psychedelics and when doing two intense drugs in a weekend that may be all the more reason not to use piracetam. By the way piracetam may be a better idea for the MDMA than the mushrooms. Not sure though but I think it is an amazing combo. I forgot what thing I combined piracetam with, if MDMA was also ever in there.

Oh I see you were planning to do the piracetam in between the two drugs not during.. hm but still, it's not like a magical cure like that.

Remember that a lot of the nastiness of MDMA comedowns is the lack of sleep and food. So if you want to do the MDMA at night time the sleep deprivation could very well add to a bigger chance of feeling spent or empty on sunday. So: change your plans for night and day time and do them the other way around, or choose one of them for this weekend and save the other. I'd say.