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blackmoth said:
are you guys stupid???

any form of amphetamine such as ritalin, adderall and methylphenidate should never be taken during ecstasy use. the amphetamine can cause a rapid onset of high blood pressure and a racing heart along with the use of x, which also causes elevated heart rate and high blood pressure. the use of both could be fatal. ive even used ritalin once, 40 mg, almost 2 weeks after taking a few pills of e, and i ended up in the hospital with attackacardia. its seriously really dangerous to mix the two, and even worse to mix them at the same time. since both are psychoactive stimulants, just taking one drug weeks after taking another could cause flashbacks, paranoia, anxiety attacks, heart problems, etc. trust me, its dangerous. my friend had a seizure at a party once not even an hour after taking 45 mg of adderall and one pill of x. and on top of that, hes a prescribed user. people not prescribed the drug are more susceptible to problems during use since a tolerance has not been built up.

BE CAREFUL. AND BE SMART.
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Something like around 80% of Australia's pills contain MDxx and Methamphetamine. Most of them seem to be fine except when used in excess or with alcohol.
 
Tomer said:
This is common sense, guys, come on. Mixing Adderall and MDMA, both of which, are hard on the heart, is a terrible mix for your body. Just because people don't see any short-term, harmful effects, from the drug, doesn't mean there aren't long-term consequences.

People are living in the moment, too much. We aren't young forever, and yes, we do get old. You don't want to be a cripple when you're 60. Think.
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I dunno about you but I don't think even living to 60 would be that enjoyable. Just my opinion though.
 
Jakeperson said:
Something like around 80% of Australia's pills contain MDxx and Methamphetamine. Most of them seem to be fine except when used in excess or with alcohol.
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The numbers are nowhere near that high, and there's also a question of doseage.
 
Yeah thats true, but with Adderall it would be easier to measure dosage.


Maybe just south aus for that stat then. Also includes pills that contain trace elements of the substances however.
 
Tomer said:
People are living in the moment, too much. We aren't young forever, and yes, we do get old. You don't want to be a cripple when you're 60. Think.
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I'll be dead before im old..... fuck it.....

Pretty good thread this, exactly what i was looking for.......

general concensus seems no Mad Dog and Ritalin.....

I'll stick to a fuck load of speed, then Ket later in the night.....

Bring on MoH!!!!
 
Ritalin and MDMA is my favorite combo ..........so EUPHORIC followed by oxy at a close second oh and Addys with MDMA is ok makes u nice a Euphoric for about an hour and then it just keeps u awake.
 
This is interesting.
Its my understanding that ritalin works by the same mechanism as cocaine.
So would the x blocking effects of cocaine be true for ritalin aswell?
 
I asked a very similar question earlier.
Cocaine has a relatively high binding affinity for SERT, while methylphenidate does not. However, given that MDMA's effects depend also on the release of dopamine and norepinephrine, I'm not sure what the result would be.

ebola
 
I wouldnt recomend combining amphets and mdma, they just dont work all that well together. I tried it once, snorted 3 points then an hour later double dropped some MDxx medium pills. I got a bit of an amphet high happening, but it totally dulled the effect of the mdma, my friends were eye rolling, chewing their faces of and dancing like looneys, and i had a feeling of complete head soberness with some euphoria.
Maybe higher dose of mdma first then smaller dose of amphetamine once your rolling might work better?
 
My brother took a tab and after 2 hrs of rolling and said he lost his roll. then he took a 20mg ritalin and said he started to roll real hard.
 
well the pill he took tested for mdma. He has rolled without taking anyother drugs, and has taken ritalin by itself so I'm sure he would be able to tell the difference
 
delta_9 said:
Ritalin and adderall are two different drugs, although they are used to treat similar conditions. Ritalin is also not an amphetamine.
Ritalin is methylphenidate, and adderall is a mix of amphetamine salts.
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Methylphenidate comes from Amphetamines. Why do you think that if you get even an extensive drug test there is just Amphetamines. Not Methylphenidate even though it is a widely abused CNS stimulant. Because it will show up as an amphetamine because thats what it is! :|
 
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thatisprettyrad said:
Methylphenidate comes from Amphetamines. Why do you think that if you get even an extensive drug test there is just Amphetamines. Not Methylphenidate even though it is a widely abused CNS stimulant. Because it will show up as an amphetamine because thats what it is! :|
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Ritalin = Methylphenidate = alpha-phenyl-2-piperidineacetic acid methyl ester

Adderall = Dextroamphetamine



Ritalin is derived from Amphetamines yes, thats correct

but its very, VERY far from the Amphetamine class at this point. Its remotely based on an Amphetamine backbone but thats it.

It does trigger false positives for drug tests, but hey, what doesnt! Here is a list of substances that can trigger false positives for Amphetamines

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I personally don't mixing a small dose of Adderall (10 mg) to a nice clean dose of MDMA.

I find it adds a nice kick to the roll and helps me avoid getting floored. I think it also makes the euphoria slightly more pronounced. I wouldn't do a significantly higher dose of amp though.

Regarding health issues, if you're being smart about your MDMA use, I don't think adding an extra 10mg of amp to the mix is significantly going to impact your long term health.

I wouldn't fuck with Ritalin.
 
I usually like to add 20-40mg of adderall with my rolls. I feel it doesn't effect MDMA in any negative way, it just gives me more energy to go out and do stuff. If I'm on just MDMA I will melt into a couch, but with a little addie I'm up and dancing for hours.


FM
 
Methylphenidate comes from Amphetamines. Why do you think that if you get even an extensive drug test there is just Amphetamines. Not Methylphenidate even though it is a widely abused CNS stimulant. Because it will show up as an amphetamine because thats what it is!
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Look at an amphetamine molecule. Now look at a molecule of MDA (or if you want MDMA in the example, compare with methamphetamine instead). Now look at a molecule of ritalin, and compare it with amphetamine. Which is the more similar derivative? It is fair to say that they're the same thing?

Less condescendingly, amphetamines work primarily by releasing monoamines (inhibiting reuptake too) while ritalin works mainly by blocking monoaminergic reuptake.

I wouldnt recomend combining amphets and mdma, they just dont work all that well together. I tried it once, snorted 3 points then an hour later double dropped some MDxx medium pills. I got a bit of an amphet high happening, but it totally dulled the effect of the mdma, my friends were eye rolling, chewing their faces of and dancing like looneys, and i had a feeling of complete head soberness with some euphoria.
Maybe higher dose of mdma first then smaller dose of amphetamine once your rolling might work better?
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I think that you would have liked this more if you had taken less amphetamine.

Where are you from? In the US, street amphetamines are d-methamphetamine, while in Western Europe, this is racemic amphetamine. Now, IIRC, the lethal LD50 of d-meth for an average, non-tolerant human is something like 400-500 mg. It will be more for amphetamine.

I'll assume that a "point" is .1 gm, ie 100 mg. 3 points is 300 mg. If your wares were pure, this would be a ridiculous amount of meth or amphetamine.

ebola
 
ebola? said:
Close. Adderall is mixed amphetamine salts, with the dextro and levo isomer in a two to one ratio, with equal quantities of the sulfate and saccharide salts.

ebola
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I know, I could write a book about it, just wanted to point out that it wasnt straight amphetamines but damn lot closer than Ritalin will ever be hehe :)
 
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