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I just hope I did not dammage my brain from the chemicals...

But you are willing to risk it a second time, potentially worsening the damage that you have done already? The most SANE advice I can give you is to stay away from drugs until you are absolutely sure that you've been recovered for a good while. There are many reports of people fucking themselves up severely after rolling again when they think they've recovered. Again, the most sane advice for you is to never use MDMA again. There is a reason why you got this reaction man, this drug is not for you.
 
I just cant wrap my head around people using for years and being ok, and me rolling once and being fucked. It has to be in my head. Chemicaly there shouldnt be any damage... Thanks for the advice tho, I was saying I want to roll again because I felt bad about quitting the edm scene :(
 
I just cant wrap my head around people using for years and being ok, and me rolling once and being fucked. It has to be in my head. Chemicaly there shouldnt be any damage... Thanks for the advice tho, I was saying I want to roll again because I felt bad about quitting the edm scene :(

That's what hurt me the most, too. Not being able to do the clubs, drugs, and wild times whilst all my friends still did. I felt like I was missing out and it hurt so much because that was the best thing in my life.

If I had such bad, long-lasting effects the first time I took it then no way would I do it again. As mentioned above, that is a big, big warning sign. This has the potential to ruin your life.

At least be aware of the risk you are taking. I hope whatever you do turns out well. Good luck
 
For what it is worth, after almost 18 months after my come down I rolled again and had a great time.

Again, this shows me that I triggered a latent temporary mental imbalance that manifested itself in anxiety brain fog and most unfortunately severe derealization.

Keep your heads up, it will pass.
 
For what it is worth, after almost 18 months after my come down I rolled again and had a great time.

Again, this shows me that I triggered a latent temporary mental imbalance that manifested itself in anxiety brain fog and most unfortunately severe derealization.

Keep your heads up, it will pass.

Just wondering, do you / did you smoke weed as well?
 
All you guys who are rightfully so upset over us who are/were able to roll recklessly for years with no major issues vs. you who unfortunately had as little as one (bad) trip which is still affecting you after weeks of trying to live a healthy lifestyle - it's too bad that this issue relates to such a taboo subject in mainstream society, and also too bad that we don't know each other personally because many of us who have "been there" (including myself) would probably try a more personal approach in trying to help you recover (assuming you'd be willing to).

Not all of us want to help others because there's something in it for us. But rather, when you've been through something as horrible as what we are all discussing in this thread, and you manage to recover, and then you read about other cases, you wanna help because you feel that nobody should have to go through such chronic pain, misery, distress. And I mean nobody.

Bless you all.
 
Very encouraging words, since yesterday I started losing my balance problems, the DR is very easy to deal with and the last things I have is headaches, brain fog and concentration issues. Knowing it will all be ok really helps. I think acceptance is 50% problem solved. I am surelly going to help others going throught this absolute nightmare once I am confident I am almost out of the woods, because as you said, nobody deserves to go through this hopelessness phase of their lives.

Enjoy the ride. Life is not about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about dancing in the god damn rain.
 
I did not smoke at all during my come down. I smoke maybe once or twice a month but weed can give me nasty (temporary) anxiety and light derealization.
 
For those who consider they have done brain damage to themselves, I dont want to sound pseudo-scientific but to give some hope, id like to remind you that in adulthood, your brain remains plastic and "The role of neuroplasticity is widely recognized in healthy development, learning, memory, and recovery from brain damage". Source :http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroplasticity

Even after many years, i may be speculating, but have some faith. Neuroplasticity is very interesting and you should read about it!
 
Just wondering, do you / did you smoke weed as well?

I also think smoking is a bad idea. I haven't been smoking at all, but I've been around people smoking weed and therefor been exposed to second-hand smoke. And it sure boosted my anxiety! however that was very early in on my comedown, and I'm not sure how I would react today.

Anyways, I've struggled through this comedown for almost 4 months now, and only through the last 3 weeks I've experienced massive and undeniable improvements. Anxiety is only present 1 or 2 times a day (the last 2 days have been totally anxiety free, except for a little anxious feeling about a potential anxiety attack) and its nowhere as close as being so severe that I can't function - like it was the first 3 months.
Also my concentration has improved and I can do my schoolwork almost as good as before - a little less motivated perhaps, but I guess it's because I started to get quite excited about life again in general, and schoolwork is suddenly less attractive (;

My only remaining issue is ED. It's not to a degree where I can't have sex, but it is an issue! anybody who can share some experiences in this regard?
 
Delfin you will be fine. You are feeling better which is great but you are also dealing with the "afterglow" of triggering traumatic anxiety. Just keep on moving forward and your body will eventually realize it's more fun to get laid.

Comedowns are a drawn out process that all whom suffer wish there was a fast forward button.

I'm guessing the ed causes stress and anxiety on its own, try some mindfulness and maybe some booze to lighten the mood so to say.

Hang in there bud, you'll be back to full functionality before you know.
 
For either of you that recovered, how well do you feel your cognition/memory/attention have restored back to "the old you" since recovering.

That swiss cheese brain is really getting to me, when I need to look for new work at the moment and Im still a little afraid to get into something that might be a little to mentally demanding. Yet, pride come in the way at I dont want to have some regular minimum wage job.
 
For either of you that recovered, how well do you feel your cognition/memory/attention have restored back to "the old you" since recovering.

My cognition and attention are 100% back to normal. It took about 19 months before these symptoms completely resolved.

My long term memory is 100%, however, long term memory has never been an issue for me.

My short term memory has been getting progressively worse, it seems. However, I'm 99% certain that this has to do with nearly upwards of 9 years of GABA-A modulators (benzodiazepine and z-drug) doctor-supervised/therapeutic usage, mainly Xanax (Alprazolam), but also including past use of Lunesta (Ezopiclone), Ativan (Lorazepam), Klonopin (Clonazepam), Valium (Diazepam), Dalmane (Flurazepam), Serax (Oxazepam), and so forth.

It is my hope that my short term memory will improve in time, should I be able to stop using these drugs (which admittedly are very useful under certain circumstances) altogether.

Lots and lots of alcohol consumption may have also played a role. Edit - Thinking back, I'd say my drinking habits are almost certainly to blame for my short term memory issues.
 
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-Delfin i had the ED issues too. The first 3 months I literally could not get hard at all. The thing is I had so much other shit to worry about that it was the least of my worrys. Around 5 months it came back 100% but then I started fluctuating with anxiety. Now I can say on a good day it's 90% bad day's maybe 60-70%. I'm hoping it improves with time.

-PMZ my cognition was absolute 0 the first couple months once again at month 5 it was pretty much 100%. Then one day I remmeber I broke down and cried and was feeling pretty suicidal. The next day it was 100% gone my brain fog was so intense, I couldn't read, visualize anything. Since then it's come back 90-100%, I even managed to score 20 points higher than the average in my computer science class. I still can't really visualize things in my head but it seems to go up and down as well.


to Ro4eva and happy dude,

I'm glad you guys recovered and are doing much beter. I got a lot better but then I thought I could drink heavily again and I went into a period of severe anxiety after that. It went up and down til I was nearly suicidal and my doctor started me on lexapro. It's keeping me stable for now but I feel the ups and downs and occasionaly lose hope. I am trying to keep myself occupied though. Did you guys have any issues being sensitive to sound and light? I know futura did and he got better but it still freaks me out.

I'm trying to be healthier with my diet and exercise but I notice if I exert myself intensely my symptoms increase for a while but taper off. I'm trying to do lighter weights/yoga/walking for now.

The worst part is that my anxiety revolves around "what if it wasn't the MDMA" because after my roll i felt fine until a month later when I felt all the classic long term comedown symptoms. SO my brain thinks "shit it was a while after so what if this isn't even related to MDMA, what if something went wrong with your natural chemistry and your fucked."
 
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I'm glad you guys recovered and are doing much beter. I got a lot better but then I thought I could drink heavily again and I went into a period of severe anxiety after that. It went up and down til I was nearly suicidal and my doctor started me on lexapro. It's keeping me stable for now but I feel the ups and downs and occasionaly lose hope. I am trying to keep myself occupied though. Did you guys have any issues being sensitive to sound and light? I know futura did and he got better but it still freaks me out.

Thank you :)

I definitely had issues with both sound and light.

Re. sound - I had to buy ear plugs to be able to sleep because even the slightest low frequency noises really used to drive me crazy. It wasn't limited to low frequency sounds though, as even mid to high frequency stuff would be very distracting while awake, and annoying as hell while trying to get some shuteye.

For example, I remember being woken up all the time by the sound of birds chirping away, early in the morning at about 4:00 to 5:00am. And, I completely obliterated my alarm clock one morning because it wouldn't snooze. It met the painful end of my baseball bat.

Worst of all, was the fact that after becoming sick, for some reason I no longer could stand to listen to any hard/fast music, such as trance, hard trance, hardstyle, hardcore, etc. Basically, anything 140 beats per minute or faster made me feel like I was gonna lose it. To this day, I'm not sure why my taste in music took such a huge turn towards slow stuff after becoming ill.

Here I was, playing trance tracks which used to make the hair on the back of my neck stand up, and which used to provoke my body into making the skin on my limbs full of goosebumps. And now, there was none of that anymore, only a feeling of irritation, and a desire to turn off the music a.s.a.p. It was a really messed up feeling. Totally didn't feel like myself, but rather, as if everything was inverted, and as if I was now living in some ass-backwards dimension. Thankfully, it's all back to "normal" now. I use quotation marks because for a human being to consider himself/herself "normal" is most likely subjective.

With respect to light sensitivity - I recall being extremely sensitive to light while on any SSRIs. But, later on I found out that it's a common side effect of SSRI use in general.

To be honest though, I'm not quite sure that I understand what it feels like to be sensitive to light - at least in the context of light sensitivity due to an illness. If someone could give me an example, I'd appreciate it. Yes, it's true, I'm quite stupid when it comes to certain things - sorry :(

I'm trying to be healthier with my diet and exercise but I notice if I exert myself intensely my symptoms increase for a while but taper off. I'm trying to do lighter weights/yoga/walking for now.

I believe that's due to a "runner's high." Basically what happens after you work out is that your body produces large amounts of natural painkillers, which then bind themselves to opioid receptors in the brain and CNS, which typically results in an opioid-type feeling, which lasts for about 2-4 hours and varies in intensity depending on the intensity and length of your workout routine.

For myself, I've noticed that the best "runner's high" I achieve is always when my workout is cardio-based (jogging, running), rather than weightlifting. And it really does feel like I'm high on a potent opioid afterwards. I would also say that, out of all the usual opioids used therapeutically and/or recreationally, a runner's high resembles a cross between IV morphine and PO (orally administered) oxycodone, only, it feels like a cleaner high, if that makes sense (obviously it would feel cleaner, as it's manifested from painkillers made by my body instead of a flower. Too bad it only lasts up to 3 hours in my case, but at least there doesn't seem to be any issues with tolerance or withdrawal.

The worst part is that my anxiety revolves around "what if it wasn't the MDMA" because after my roll i felt fine until a month later when I felt all the classic long term comedown symptoms. SO my brain thinks "shit it was a while after so what if this isn't even related to MDMA, what if something went wrong with your natural chemistry and your fucked."

I obviously have no way to prove this, but I strongly believe that I fucked up my brain chemistry big time due to my reckless use of pretty much every recreational drug in existence. Anyways, I recall doing some research on the long term effects of SSRI use, and I remember reading about how at least 2 months of SSRI (more specifically, Zoloft) use may promote the brain's serotonin system to regulate itself back to normal.

At the start of 2006, I began taking Zoloft (Sertraline) - at first, 50mg OD (once daily), then, after a month, 100mg OD. I don't remember exactly anymore how long I used it, but it was for at least a few months (definitely longer than 2).

To this day, I credit the use of Zoloft with partly aiding me in my recovery. I'm not saying it's a wonder-drug that's free of adverse side effects, as it definitely carries certain risks associated with its usage. Also, I'm not recommending anyone should use it. All I'm saying is that, some of my most severe symptoms (such as brain fog, depersonalization, derealization, dizziness, and numbness and tingling in my extremities) began to improve only after I started using Zoloft, and, once I successfully got off of Zoloft, the symptoms did not return.

Zoloft didn't help with every symptom. I had to also use Wellbutrin XL (Bupropion) and Xanax (Alprazolam) in order to rid myself of all but one symptom, which continues to affect me to this day, but, its severity has decreased ten-fold. So, out of about 20 symptoms, 19 of them were completely gone within about 19 months. And the last one, "uncomfortable awareness of heartbeat," which used to torture me constantly, now only manifests itself when I'm severely stressed out, when experiencing a panic attack, or when I over-do my workouts. All in all, it's very rare now - thank God.

Sorry for babbling on and on... =D
 
Thanks I feel better now. The light sensitivity thing makes a lot of sense because I started the lexapro around a month ago and noticed it then.

At least I know it's the drugs. I saw a naturopath a while ago and she told me it was all from having low magenisum levels and inflammation in the gut. So I had a weird sort of hypochondria about that haha.
 
For either of you that recovered, how well do you feel your cognition/memory/attention have restored back to "the old you" since recovering.

That swiss cheese brain is really getting to me, when I need to look for new work at the moment and Im still a little afraid to get into something that might be a little to mentally demanding. Yet, pride come in the way at I dont want to have some regular minimum wage job.

Taught myself programming and have been a software developer for the last 4 years. I feel as good as I ever did.

I seemed to have picked up some food intolerances during my bad comedown which can affect my short-term memory a little. But when I avoid those foods I feel like superman.

Some people go through life not realising what a gift it can be to be normal and healthy. After my long-term comedown I enjoy life more most of the time.
 
Taught myself programming and have been a software developer for the last 4 years. I feel as good as I ever did.

I seemed to have picked up some food intolerances during my bad comedown which can affect my short-term memory a little. But when I avoid those foods I feel like superman.

Some people go through life not realising what a gift it can be to be normal and healthy. After my long-term comedown I enjoy life more most of the time.

Thats interesting you mention that about food. I just got a blood allergy test and im allergic to more things than I ever realized
 
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