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So ive been posting on here on and off now for the last year ... I'm on month 13 of brain zaps and have a few questions:

1) could all this LTC stuff all just be 100% in our minds ? It's just become sort of hard wired into our thought patterns and we just need to somehow change the way we think ?
2) how much does alcohol slow down the healing process ? I now only drink about once a week and no more than like 10 units (4-5 beers). I didn't drink for a month but didn't notice much difference so eased back into it.
3) is walking a good exercise for the brain ? Which is the best form?
4) is this it now for my drug days ? I'm 23 and obviously this is really bad lasting this long, has anyone ever gone back to abusing (maybe not as hard as before) after they recovered from their ltc? What happened ? Cheers
Do the zaps get worse when you drink? Are they causing you to not sleep? I'm very far from an expert but I would lay off anything more than a beer or 2 if alcohol causes them to get worse.

On another note....does anyone get floaters only in one eye? I only have them in my left eye. Also....the remeron doesn't appear to be helping me sleep as much anymore and the zaps have come back at night.....ugh! No sleep last night either.
 
2) how much does alcohol slow down the healing process ? I now only drink about once a week and no more than like 10 units (4-5 beers). I didn't drink for a month but didn't notice much difference so eased back into it.

It certainly did not help me when I was with the LTC. I drank 2 or 3 vodka drinks and I'd get around 10 days of zaps and jumps.
 
It certainly did not help me when I was with the LTC. I drank 2 or 3 vodka drinks and I'd get around 10 days of zaps and jumps.

How long did your LTC last? How long did the zaps last? Did you go on any medication?
 
How's your sleep? Any brain zaps?

Sleep is the hardest part. I get about 6 to 7 hours a night but I wake up a couple times a night. I'm not sure what you guys mean by brain zaps. Sometimes I would get this heavy sensation in the beginning like there were weights being put on my head.
 
Ok, so I am finally (thanks to my own stupidity) going to end up posting here.

For the past two years, I've rolled 19 times and while doing so consumed appr. 30 pills, mostly MDMA, probably a lot of adulterants too. Usually there has been at least a month in between rolls, but I have rolled once back-to-back nights and three times in a week during a festival. During that time I have been an on and off daily cannabis smoker, which has caused a lot of anxiety and depression during the weeks after quitting daily smoking. It obviously has also induced some short term memory problems and cognitive impairment, but I've thought that it's only temporary and should go away after being absent long enough from smoking. Usually these effects have gone away after waiting for a month at max, sometimes faster than that.

Any how, for the past few months I have constantly felt shitty in general, and for the first time of my life, also a bit stupid and slow. I sometimes forget what I was saying, forget what I was doing in just a few seconds, cannot concentrate to even the most simple tasks and might even start doing something totally different than I was over and over again and end up finishing none of those tasks. I also have some extremely paranoid and stupid thoughts from thinking that everyone hates me to fearing I have some sort of serious medical condition. Due to my total ignorance of the long term negative effects of MDMA (because I pretty much am fucking in love with the substance) I really have not considered this to be due to my past MDMA use and only dismissed it as being temporary and caused by my cannabis withdrawal phase (I'm exactly one month off from smoking atm.)

But the more I read the less I can lie to myself and have come into conclusion that this is mainly caused by my MDMA (ab)use. Usually after a month the negative effects of cannabis withdrawal have gone away or drained significantly, but now it seems not to get that much better, if at all. I haven't rolled in little over two months and after the last roll I had major anxiety and even panic attacks that I (foolishly) considered to be results of cannabis. This year in total I've rolled thrice, the first time being new years day and second about two month after that. So it has not been induced by accelerating number of rolls or anything like that, because I've significantly reduced my usage after the magic seemed to diminish last fall.

I did have - during one of my first rolls - a major short term come down after I consumed 2,5 very strong pills in four different doses. After that I've had involuntary muscle spasms mainly in my legs during rest, but also in other parts of my body. This is about 1,5 years ago and it has not hindered in any way. As the most stupid thing I've probably done in my easy life I did not think this as a warning sign and simply thought that it's ok, since I didn't notice any other adverse effects. Now I strongly believe it to be due to brain damage, most likely irreversible one. The only other time I had a real comedown was after the stupid three rolls in a week binge, about a year ago. I also happened to have the weed comedown at the same time, which drove me into extreme depression and paranoia. It went away in about two months, although I did roll (with a mild dose) about two month after it. Other than these instances, I have not felt any adverse effects immediately after any of my rolls.

So, now due to my past experiences I'm not that worried about my anxiety and depression/paranoia going away. I'm pretty confident it will, eventually, in a reasonable time. What I AM worried about is the cognitive side of this. I've read a number of studies that suggest the cognitive and memory impairment is permanent, and that I will never be the intelligent and quick thinking guy I used to be. This alone induces a lot of anxiety, and makes me really afraid of thinking I will never achieve all the things I wanted from life. I've always been really good in anything that requires memory and cognitive abilities, and now I feel I've lost it.

Also, since I am a lazy, impulsive person and lack self-discipline, I cannot with serious face say that I'm not going to use drugs anymore. Cannabis is something that clearly is not suitable for me and I've decided to quit it for good, and MDMA with it semi loss of magic is not worth the adverse effects, so no more molly for me at least for a long time. But since I've found that cocaine is pretty good substitute with a lot less neurotoxic effects, I've used it to go to raves and have fun with my drugged friends, since I really do not feel I could just drop out of that scene and all the fun we are having totally.

So, after this incoherent and badly written post (English is not my native tongue as you've probably noticed :D ), I'd like to thank for the patience for reading this long and ask from you fellow bluelighters that might have had similar experiences:

1) Have you noticed significant improvements in your cognitive functioning and memory, and if so, how thorough has the recovery been, how did you (ab)use the drug and how long did the recovery take?

2) On a scale 'stupid' to 'you are an hopeless etard', how stupid using cocaine approx. once every 6-8 weeks while going to raves is, and how much will it diminish the progress of the potential recovery?

3) Have you had muscle twitching long after a binge and if so, has it stopped at some point even if it did go year(s) after it started?

4) Did you change your lifestyle toward a more healthy one from eating totally crap food and not doing virtually any exercise and if so, how did you manage to motivate your self? I'd be so happy to be the same I was before my MDMA use but still it feels like a mountain I can't climb to even think seriously changing my diet and starting to exercise, even when we're talking shit this serious.

I really feel I'd have been able to write a post much much more coherent two years ago and it really felt like crap to see all the errors I made writing in English, thank god there is a text correcter :D But I want to thank everyone here who have shared their experiences and specially those who read all this and even are bothering to answer! Wish all the very best in recovering from this love-to-hate-hate-to-love-drug!
 
1) I went from a 1 out of 10 to a 6 or 7 out 10 in 7 weeks.
2) I would put you toward the 'hopeless etard' side. Your brain is asking you stop. I also had earth shattering anxiety induced form episodes with c. They aren't as bad as the mdma ones but they were rough on the soul. Your symptoms sound different than a typical LTC. But I would let your brain rest and heal. It will pay you back for taking care of it.
3) No serious muscle twitching. Just Irritable leg syndrome for the first two weeks after taking.
4) I had no appetite for the first couple weeks. So i just forced greens down. Now I eat a lot, but a lot of healthy foods. I smash salads, fruits, smoothies, juice on the reg. I used to excercise every couple days before my binge so switching to every day wasn't that big of an adjustment. That all being said, It's a struggle. This is all very difficult to deal with. But what can I do? I have to force myself to work through it. Stick to the plan.
 
How long did your LTC last? How long did the zaps last? Did you go on any medication?

I'd say from Sep-2014 to Sep-2015, with some ups and down 6 months later. So 1 1/2 year in total, more or less?
I had zaps the entire time. I still have them near my period, but they go away very quickly. Seems to be more related to hormones.
Clonazepan, to be able to sleep. 2 drops per day before bedtime (it's less than 0.5mg)
 
3) Have you had muscle twitching long after a binge and if so, has it stopped at some point even if it did go year(s) after it started?

4) Did you change your lifestyle toward a more healthy one from eating totally crap food and not doing virtually any exercise and if so, how did you manage to motivate your self? I'd be so happy to be the same I was before my MDMA use but still it feels like a mountain I can't climb to even think seriously changing my diet and starting to exercise, even when we're talking shit this serious.

3) Yes, that was my main symptom on the LTC that I had (~1 1/2 year). It was annoying. Very VERY annoying. I did not lost my memory, I got anxiety, sleeping troubles, but in general, that was my main thing.

4) Yes. I felt better when I did it, so that was enough. Mostly exercise related (I do not eat lots of junk food)
 
3) Yes, that was my main symptom on the LTC that I had (~1 1/2 year). It was annoying. Very VERY annoying. I did not lost my memory, I got anxiety, sleeping troubles, but in general, that was my main thing.

4) Yes. I felt better when I did it, so that was enough. Mostly exercise related (I do not eat lots of junk food)

Hello - glad you're LTC got better I'm still having long term brain zaps and I HATE it just wanna get back to normal .... Feel like they start getting better then flare up again and get worse and just goes round in circles. Is there anything you would recommend to help these ? Do they sort of have to get worse before they get better? Thank you :-)
 
Hi everyone.
I'm suffering from HPPD (hallucinogen persisting perception disorder) that I think I got from taking MDMA too frequently for a long time. I've taken MDMA monthly for about a year, for some months I've taken it almost weekly. I've also done a lot of cannabis. The last time I've taken it was January, and in February I started to notice problems with my vision and a head/ sinus pressure. It started with minor symptoms only, such as visual snow and shimmering surface, but it became worse and worse with new symptoms popping up till this point. It had been 7 months after taking MDMA, and I've basically abstained from all other drugs including alcohol and caffeine, yet the problems still remain and haven't really seen any improvement.






Palinopsia - I get after-images from everything I look at. As I'm looking at my monitor typing this and look away on a wall, I see a a copy of everything that is on the monitor and the frame of monitor itself appearing on the wall. It's there for a few seconds and goes away. Images from bright or very dark objects remain longer. I get this from reading books, window frames, a person, and basically anything I look at.




Visual Snow- Flashing dots in my vision, makes everything shimmer and slightly moving. Makes straight lines wobble and floor to be wavy.


Ghosting image- I see a faint double image, for example if I look at a stop sign I see a faint image of it directly over it.


Head Pressure - I feel constant pressure in my head, it me dizzy and feel like the night after heavy drinking. It is physically making me feel ill and drugged.




I also see patterning on the wall, closed eye visuals, and many other symptoms but they are very minor compared to above symptoms.






These symptoms do not just come and go, I've had these and the head pressure every second with me since February. To be honest although it is very stressful and physically debilitating, I can still go through my day, but not knowing if it will stop getting worse and eventually better or maybe go away is causing me a lot of anxiety and feel nearly suicidal. I've done a lot of tests and been to several different doctors, and they could not find anything wrong with my health. I've tried ibuprofen, tylenol, vitamin and mineral supplements, but none of it helped with my head pressure and visual problems.




I've searched about HPPD and asked a lot of people about this but I get conflicting informations.


Some people have recovered within weeks to months, some with years, and some had been suffering for 20 years. Most of them did not have severe and worsening symptoms like mine, and most of the people with HPPD did not get it from MDMA so I can't really compare my situation with other's cases. I'm planning to visit another neurologist for a second opinion and MRI, and a psychiatrist however I doubt they can help resolving this problem.




Had anyone been through this and could provide me some insight? I'm doing my best to live healthy and ignore my symptoms however constantly feeling like I'm on a comedown and seeing all these visuals is driving me to the edge. Please I've been suffering all these months without a moment of relief and I beg for your help.
 
Hello - glad you're LTC got better I'm still having long term brain zaps and I HATE it just wanna get back to normal .... Feel like they start getting better then flare up again and get worse and just goes round in circles. Is there anything you would recommend to help these ? Do they sort of have to get worse before they get better? Thank you :-)

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This image really helped me back in the day :)
 
nightelf, At what point were you able to work and do normal things?

I was always functional: never stopped working, or doing things. I keep my work, my boyfriend and my general life. Just had trouble sleeping and involuntary movements. Those were my 2 symptoms.
 
I was always functional: never stopped working, or doing things. I keep my work, my boyfriend and my general life. Just had trouble sleeping and involuntary movements. Those were my 2 symptoms.

Do you have any symptoms nowadays like memory problems or are they all gone?
 
My zaps don't seem to be subsiding at all, last night every time I was falling asleep I'd get one and my leg or arm would jolt. Had about 6 of them. Feels like I'm having a seizure. This was even with the Remeron. The night before I maybe had one, but the remeron seemed to kick in and I only had 1. I think my body is learning how to enter a sort of "half asleep" state where it's resting just before I enter real sleep so I don't get zaps. Of course the muscle/face twitching and tension headache is still around, worst at night. The zaps are the worst, they hurt and my extremities start to tingle. Anyone have any luck with seroquel? Looks relatively non-addicting and works as a sleep aid for people suffering from stimulant damage.
 
I was always functional: never stopped working, or doing things. I keep my work, my boyfriend and my general life. Just had trouble sleeping and involuntary movements. Those were my 2 symptoms.

Do you think you could currently sleep without the klonopin? In the research I've done it seems people think benzos help or hurt.
 
Any musicians here? I have the feeling that my music playing has got much worse than before, like I've lost the feeling for the right beat. Are these kind of problems, like the motoric ones, fade away too?
 
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