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Thanks for the info buddy , appreciate it !
Exactly , what got me into tears was related to someone's face , thats really weird though ... I dont think the drug unearthed some kind of discontent like you're saying , i would have felt it . I was basically very happy every time i took it , felt a little more confident that the usual , but really nothing bad or psychologically disturbing . I think it all just hit me at once , being sick , the comedown , first day of work , etc ...

Im going to order some 5-HTP but dont even know how much to take .. They come in different milligrams like 40 - 60 - 100mg pills .

I just wanted to know if taking what ive took during those 3 days is considered dangerous ? Specially that i read most people only take 120mg and wait about 4 weeks between every time . I took almost 8 times that quantity in an interval of 3 days . Lol the things we get ourself into ...
I took L-tryptophan, 400 mg a pill, one is enough. Two pills gave me fucked up dreams. It helps with insomnia, which is pretty much the only symptom I've had after MDMA use thus far. Also, tryptophan is more like a natural substance that the body uses as it sees fit, e.g. to get serotonin, whereas with 5-HTP you're more like artificially pumping serotonin levels. Like the upper-downer situation. Where do you stop, you know? At least that's what I gathered. Research on the subject is scant of course.

Yeah, you took a lot. But it's definitely more an issue of taking M on (near-)consecutive days. I think the dosage for each day you took is high, but manageable for a healthy person. It's the lack of recovery in between that's gotten to you. If you really need to keep going, perhaps take a different substance, i.e., non-serotonergic. But that's hardly "good" advice to give to you.
 
Hello guys. Can somebody explain why mdma damaged my vision? I mean my vision is good I can read,but I have visual disturbances. If I look at white walls it's awfull walls is shimmering or flickering it's from white walls looks like black. Also I have litlle visual snow,but this flickering blinking annoying is it from visual cortex? And is it permament? I have it more than 2years and I'm sober for 2years,alsp I have dizziness ground moving sensations and tiredness all the time. I'm destroyed myself. But now I want to know is it posiblle to do something with vision or it's permament? Sorry for grammar.
 
I took L-tryptophan, 400 mg a pill, one is enough. Two pills gave me fucked up dreams. It helps with insomnia, which is pretty much the only symptom I've had after MDMA use thus far. Also, tryptophan is more like a natural substance that the body uses as it sees fit, e.g. to get serotonin, whereas with 5-HTP you're more like artificially pumping serotonin levels. Like the upper-downer situation. Where do you stop, you know? At least that's what I gathered. Research on the subject is scant of course.

Yeah, you took a lot. But it's definitely more an issue of taking M on (near-)consecutive days. I think the dosage for each day you took is high, but manageable for a healthy person. It's the lack of recovery in between that's gotten to you. If you really need to keep going, perhaps take a different substance, i.e., non-serotonergic. But that's hardly "good" advice to give to you.

You really seem to know alot of things related to the subject , specially about the psychological part i noticed (read your other replies to other people aswell) . Anyways , i thank you for all the help buddy .

Im not going to keep going anymore , im glad that i have the ability to say enough is enough and let my body recover . Maybe someday , in about 4-5 months , @~120mg/day , but for now , its gona be good dieting , working out 6-7 days a week , and getting my serotonin levels back up with either tryptophan @400mg/day or 5-HTP @100mg/day then gradually decreasing to 50mg/day after one month of use .

What i have learned now is to wait atleast 2 to 4 weeks between every mdma consumption . Will keep that in mind aswell as the recommended dosage !

Cheers
 
Yeah, drugs just intrigue me... always have. I read about it a lot even when I was too young to use myself.

And it's not like I can discuss this stuff with my parents or colleagues, you know... but I need to share it. And I like to help people because, well... I think I know a thing or two about drugs. Both from theory and personal experience.

They say 5-HTP is more effective, btw. It's like pure serotonin. While L-tryptophan is more like a "natural" but slower recovery. However, most people use these supplements as post-loading, so right after MDMA use, for like 3-7 days or something. I'm not sure it's useful after that period. Your body should have replenished basic serotonin levels already.
 
Is there anyone that has actually RECOVERED after MDMA damage to their memory?

I don't have anxiety (anymore), just memory problems.
 
Define "MDMA damage to memory"?
I honestly think I've got neurotoxcity I honestly don't have anxiety atall but having sever problems with my skin tissue memory muscles and vision does anyone know anything about neurotoxcity that could help me ?
 
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Hello, i am new to this forum and this is my first post. :)
I am also currently experiencing this long term comedown, as it has all started after my last party where i combined one and a half of untested pill with alcohol.

Before that i rolled around 10 times consuming on average 2 pills per roll. The pills were untested by me, yet were good and clean according to the "pillreports" webpage. Sometimes i did mix the pills with some alcohol sometimes i did not. Interesting fact is that i never had a comedown after my rolling sessions, only an "afterglow" which lasted about a week.

Now, my last roll was pretty weird and pretty reckless because i did not plan to consume any xtc pills, i.e. i did not plan to roll and i was going to only consume alcohol, yet being drunk removes all the sane reason from one's head as well as turns one into a proud mfer... Somehow deep inside me i knew that these pills were bad and unclean, yet my friends consumed them and were rolling hard and the dealer said they were good and strong; so me being a stupid drunk at that time decided to buy and eat them. The good thing is that somehow i managed to consume the pill and a half after about 4 hours since my last drink of alcohol and did not drink any alcohol during the roll itself, only water. The roll itself was pretty strange, it was somewhat euphoric, however the "loved up" feeling was absent and the effect lasted only about 2 hours; other than that there were no negative problems during the roll itself.

All hell broke loose when i got home and decided to get some sleep. During my sleep i woke up with a strong panic attack, apparently i was very scared. After that panic attack i was very anxious and restless an suddenly felt all the effects of a bad comedown which i have never experienced before: uncontrollable anxiousness, depression, trouble sleeping, loss of appetite, difficulty concentrating, brain fog, a degree of depersonalization and derealization, sluggish thinking and so on..
With the help of benzos i managed to get to sleep after one day of insomnia. After about 3 days most of the negative effects subsided, yet i was still somewhat "off" emotionally and mentally, however i was fully functional.
For about a month after the roll i felt ok, then the second month came and i slowly started experiencing typical symptoms of anxiety and depression, i sucked them up assuming that they will go away, yet they did not and only grew in intensity.

After about 2 months i started having trouble with my sleep and that only exacerbated the symptoms which started to grow more and more. When the third month came i was totally annihilated by symptoms of anxiety and depression which were very intense.8( At that time i assumed that i suffered a full blown agitated depression with mixed stated, i thought i was going crazy or had some terrible mental illness, you know all the nasty things anxiety makes you believe.

The fourth month was somehow easier emotionally and mentally for me, yet symptoms of anxiety and depression still were very strong but i somehow got used to them and continued to function.

So far it has been 5 months since that tragic roll and my symptoms are somewhat lessening in intensity, however it is hard to say...

My insomnia got a lot better ( i can sleep without any type of sleep aid either natural or not), i no longer suffer intense emotional pain, my mind became clearer, dp/dr lessened.

What i still suffer from is bearable although fluctuating depression and anxiety, mild brain fog, increased sensitivity to every chemical that goes into my body be it food, drugs ( i no longer consume any drugs except occasional coffee) or supplements, a mild form of anhedonia and emotional numbness.

My physical symptoms are currently mild head pressure, feelings of heat on the scalp and on my back and an occasional headache.

Hopefully as the time goes by my symptoms will lessen even more and i will be fully cured.

Sorry for the long post and thanks for reading. :)
 
I honestly think I've got neurotoxcity I honestly don't have anxiety atall but having sever problems with my skin tissue memory muscles and vision does anyone know anything about neurotoxcity that could help me ?
Neurotoxicity is a pretty damning self-diagnosis. Also I doubt skin problems have a neurological cause. There are other things that can cause memory and vision impairments.

Based on what kind of abuse (type / quantity of substance) do you suspect neurotoxicity?
 
@Mikek11

Not to downplay anything, but it really is the usual story you're telling. Very similar to mine.

I just had to wait it out. Not sure what did the trick. Mere passage of time, physical exercise, spending more time out and less with your own thoughts, quitting smoking... things I did that may or may not have aided recovery.

Also it should be noted that this "syndrome" comes about as a result of different substances -- MDMA, marihuana, shrooms... so it's chemically nonspecific, i.e., the source could reside within yourself with drugs acting only as a trigger.

I know that in my case obsessive self-monitoring of symptoms was a huge factor. You shouldn't be so self-conscious. You'll drive yourself crazy. A type of hypochondria. Really, it's amazing what the mind can inflict on itself and by extension the body. So once you realize that, you'll start taking yourself less seriously, and you'll learn to laugh it off.

That's my impression, anyway.
 
I honestly think I've got neurotoxcity I honestly don't have anxiety atall but having sever problems with my skin tissue memory muscles and vision does anyone know anything about neurotoxcity that could help me ?

I very much doubt its neurotoxicity, unless you took high, repeated doses combined with other neuronal-stimulating drugs.

Its much more likely that is simply a case of brain 'changes', for example alterations in the wiring of your brain
 
Neurotoxicity is a pretty damning self-diagnosis. Also I doubt skin problems have a neurological cause. There are other things that can cause memory and vision impairments.

Based on what kind of abuse (type / quantity of substance) do you suspect neurotoxicity?
Well I had a blow out one weekend abused mdma sat and all sunday i was constantly redosing with alchol all weekend finished off with a red capsule it's been 8 months now I don't know if it will ever end
 
I very much doubt its neurotoxicity, unless you took high, repeated doses combined with other neuronal-stimulating drugs.

Its much more likely that is simply a case of brain 'changes', for example alterations in the wiring of your brain
I took a lot I ended up blanking out now I'm left like this .. Is there anyway that this will get better ?
All my skin feels diffrent and my muscles have got a lot smaller along with a lot of other changes
 
I took a lot I ended up blanking out now I'm left like this .. Is there anyway that this will get better ?
All my skin feels diffrent and my muscles have got a lot smaller along with a lot of other changes
It was all from diffrent people aswell lime the red capsule I got was totally diffrent from all the other stuff I don't know what to do man is there anyway through this ?
 
Yeah well, "red capsule" is tricky... For all we know it was cyanide. Or a placebo.

Skin problems and muscle atrophy, if true, sounds like a very different problem. Go see your doctor.
 
@Mikek11

Not to downplay anything, but it really is the usual story you're telling. Very similar to mine.

I just had to wait it out. Not sure what did the trick. Mere passage of time, physical exercise, spending more time out and less with your own thoughts, quitting smoking... things I did that may or may not have aided recovery.

Also it should be noted that this "syndrome" comes about as a result of different substances -- MDMA, marihuana, shrooms... so it's chemically nonspecific, i.e., the source could reside within yourself with drugs acting only as a trigger.

I know that in my case obsessive self-monitoring of symptoms was a huge factor. You shouldn't be so self-conscious. You'll drive yourself crazy. A type of hypochondria. Really, it's amazing what the mind can inflict on itself and by extension the body. So once you realize that, you'll start taking yourself less seriously, and you'll learn to laugh it off.

That's my impression, anyway.

Is it worth trying some ssris or other antidepressants or is it better to just wait it out? I did use alprazolam on occasion during very hard times to help ease the symptoms but then decided to discontinue even the occasional usage due to the fact how dangerous benzos can be.
 
Yeah well, "red capsule" is tricky... For all we know it was cyanide. Or a placebo.

Skin problems and muscle atrophy, if true, sounds like a very different problem. Go see your doctor.
I've also been impotent for 8 months and have horrible head pressure and brain fog .. Do u think an ssri would help ?
 
OK guys, a forum can provide some "recreational" help but this reaches into the medical / medicinal, so you really should consult a professional.

Wouldn't know about antidepressants, never took them, so no luck with that. However as long as it's tolerable I myself would prefer recovering the natural way. Eg, a healthy diet, a good night's sleep, getting out, and physical exercise. But if you meet the criteria for depression, according to a doctor, I guess there's no harm in taking them. Might as well fight drugs with drugs, not? Truth is depression / anxiety can cause pretty much all the symptoms you're reporting.
 
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