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MDMA recovery, if depleted afterward: broad-spectrum

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Greenlighter
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So, took MDMA once about two months ago and was not recovering well from it. Having low dopamine and low serotonin symptoms (trouble typing, ear ringing, depression) that persisted for weeks, sensitive to medications in general so this is not completely surprising.

Initially, had been taking 5-HTP, as recommended. But taking that seemed to make the low-dopamine problems worse. Someone recommended stopping all supplements. Seemed like a good idea, but recovery still was not happening.

A few weeks later, talked with holistic doc who says the brain needs help replenishing serotonin and dopamine stores and re-establishing synaptic connections. He recommended resuming 5-HTP and a few other things.

Now, using the following things as needed, feeling much better and on the way to recovery:
-5-HTP
-P5P and B6
-B-vitamins in general
-DLPA
-L-tyrosine (take serotonin precursors along with dopamine precursors and vitamin cofactors)
-magnesium
-vinpocetine (for brain circulation)
-ALCAR
-TMG (increases levels of some neurotransmitters)

In other cases of brain issues perhaps best to stop all supplements, but in this case where the problem is depletion, it worked better to take a bunch of replenishing supplements.

Better to take a broad-spectrum replacement rather than just one thing (5HTP) since that can stop working if it's taken alone.

Happy that brain is now doing even better than before the MDMA, with all of these replenishing things. Better concentration and mental energy (probably from the vinpocetine and ALCAR).

(ALCAR should be taken along with Alpha-lipoic-acid if possible, but ALA gives me headaches so I use other antioxidants instead.)

Don't give up on the brain! It can recover!
 
I am extremely inexperienced... but I hypothesize that daily exercise and proper diet can make an exponentially greater impact on recovering after a roll than further drug-pumping. Did you try that at all OP?
 
I am great about my exercise and diet. I swim, run, do sprints, and eat a very clean, unprocessed, vegetable-rich diet.
For me, it really seemed to be a case of missing chemicals. I tend to have low-level depression anyway, so maybe my brain is just not great at making enough of these things in the first place - maybe that's why I had a hard time recovering.
But that does remind me, while I was not taking any supplements for a few weeks, one of the only things that made me feel better was wilted greens (kale, chard, etc.) probably for the B-vitamins.
 
Ehh.. kale is better known for Vit K. Aside from select nootropics, I'm highly skeptical of supplements and holistic medicine in general. On the brightside, this guy you're seeing seems to be using (mostly) stuff that has at least SOME verified studies behind it. Vinpocetine appears to be more of a neuroprotectant. Not sure about "brain circulation". Piracetam is shown to increase blood flow to the brain. I'd seriously take a look at piracetam. I take it daily and it has worked wonders for my memory and general cognitive functioning. All the racetams (piracetam, aniracetam, etc.) have plenty of research behind them and there is no doubting their effects.

You can learn more about it here:

http://www.ceri.com/noot.htm
 
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