MDMA - preparing for my second time rolling

[mesial]

Here goes my first post!

After much research, I recently tried MDMA for the first time with my fiancee.
I am fairly inexperienced with MDMA as I have only taken it once but I plan on trying it again in a few months.

I picked up a few pills from my best friend who vouched for their purity and my fiancee and I both took one each. In about 30 minutes, my fiancee's pupils were extremely dialated and she was just loving life. Unfortunately, after about an hour I decided to take one more pill because I wasn't really feeling anything. I do weigh 260lbs so I knew I might need more. I read that the therapeutic dosage for MDMA is 1.7-2.0mg/kg and for my weight I would need roughly 200mg of MDMA and one pill usually contains 70-110mg. After another 30 mins I was into a perma-grin and we both had an amazing time. The empathogenic and euphoric qualities of the drug were so apparent yet I felt so completely lucid. Our prior experiences have only been with cannabis and mushrooms and we both agreed that MDMA felt even more intense. After rolling for the first time I have some unanswered questions that I can't seem to find within the forums.

1) My fiancee has been taking Escitolapram (Lexipro) 10mg daily for 6months yet she had quite an experience. I have been reading other threads that state an SSRI will reduce/prevent a person from rolling. She certainly was experiencing the effects, so can this vary from person to person based on their particular pharmacokinetics? I did not notice the pill to be particularly speedy so its hard to imagine that all she was experiencing was the potential adulterant that was used in our pills.

2) When I do decide to roll again, should I use the same method of taking one pill and waiting one hour to see how it is affecting me or just take two from the onset? I was reading that multiple doses spread out are more of a danger for neurotoxicity and I would certainly like to reduce this potential side effect as much as possible. We both took plenty of antioxidants both during and after our roll this last time.

3) Hippie flipping! As I mentioned, we both like mushrooms and when we heard about hippie flipping, we wanted to try it. We have the opportunity to do this in vegas in a few months. Would you suggest staying in our room (a sizeable suite) or venturing outside into the casino? We have eaten mushrooms in vegas before but we usually don't leave the room until a few hours go by so we can gain enough confidence to be near others I felt extremely aware and sure of myself on MDMA, so I'm curious if this will overcome the slight paranoia I've felt while on mushrooms.

Edit 1: I'm buying a test kit for my next go around.

Thanks!

 

[Blazif07]

Welcome! Glad that your first time with MDMA was a pleasant one for you and your fiancee!

As far as your questions go, here's what I think:

1)... I have no idea. I'm severely ignorant in the MDMA vs other brain type of medicines subject. I'd just continue your research and let somebody else with more knowledge answer this one!

2) You'll be fine double dropping (especially since you're getting a kit to test the pills, so you'll know you have legit drugs). I'm 5'2" and weigh in at 130-135ish and have little to no tolerance (I always space my rolls 3-4 months in between) and I can double drop just fine. (and I typically take a single booster about 1.5 hours later)

Since you said that you're spacing your rolls out by a few months and are loading up on antioxidants, I see no problem with double dropping tested pills. You might want to look up additional vitamins/supplements to further help keep your brain healthy. (5htp, piracetam, magnesium chelate, choline...there's plenty of info on that around here)

3) ...I've only ever done LSD once... So I am lacking in experience with shrooms and thus hippy flipping. If you're experienced enough and confident enough with yourself on a hallucinogen, then adding MDMA to it shouldn't be a problem. Most seem to reccomend cutting back your dosages of each for your first time. (so I would take maybe 1.5 pills, rather than double drop) And time your intake of the drugs so that you don't come down from MDMA while you're still tripping.

Other than that... I dunno. I think I've seen some threads on here about that though! I may or may not try to candy flip (LSD+MDMA) sometime... Could be lots of fun... or real bad... (I freaked out like HELL the time I took acid).

Hope this helps!

 

[Bearlove]

SSRI's can interfer with a roll but its hard to say how a certain person will feel (there are so many factors).

If your a big guy and you know the pills are clean I personally would go for the double drop at the start, this way your going to be having the full effect of the roll.

Hippy flipping is great fun but I dont think its something I would suggest (for a first timer) in somewhere like a casino - it really depends on the mushrooms your going to be taking though. As you know some mushrooms are pretty strong and tripping in public can be a bit too much - hippy flipping in a natural setting (park, forest, beach etc is an amazing experience and a much better way to start). IF your going to do it start with a low dose on the mushrooms and see how you feel, if your comfortable and the shrooms not too strong take more and up gameplan. Candy Flipping is great fun but not something Ive done too much of in public as Ive saved it for raving / home settings.

Mushrooms and the lights in Vegas just sound like a match made in heaven though - adding a bit of MDMA to the mix sounds like too much fun.

 

[mesial]

SSRI's can interfer with a roll but its hard to say how a certain person will feel (there are so many factors).

If your a big guy and you know the pills are clean I personally would go for the double drop at the start, this way your going to be having the full effect of the roll.

Hippy flipping is great fun but I dont think its something I would suggest (for a first timer) in somewhere like a casino - it really depends on the mushrooms your going to be taking though. As you know some mushrooms are pretty strong and tripping in public can be a bit too much - hippy flipping in a natural setting (park, forest, beach etc is an amazing experience and a much better way to start). IF your going to do it start with a low dose on the mushrooms and see how you feel, if your comfortable and the shrooms not too strong take more and up gameplan. Candy Flipping is great fun but not something Ive done too much of in public as Ive saved it for raving / home settings.

Mushrooms and the lights in Vegas just sound like a match made in heaven though - adding a bit of MDMA to the mix sounds like too much fun.

Okay so next time I roll I will definitely double drop especially since they will be tested! I know that it is not ideal to be taking booster doses a couple hours into your roll but what is the safest way to do this if you are trying to extend the experience?

We have an eighth of mushrooms left that we have tried twice before, they are supposed to be lab grown and I felt they were pretty potent. We have taken them in las vegas before and walked to Aria (google pics if you haven't, its the newest casino/hotel/community in Vegas). One night we walked around the corner and saw this huge leaning building full of lights, it was absolutely incredible. I took the full eighth of these myself and it was really tough on me on the come-up, both nausea and anxiety. Since then, half an eighth and some cannabis seemed to help both my anxiety and nausea while still allowing me to have a great trip full of plenty of visuals.

My plan is to eat 1.75g of the mushrooms, wait until I see visuals, drop 1.5pills of tested MDMA and hope the synergism occurs.

Thanks for the info

 

[Blazif07]

As far as a booster goes: it depends on how long you take to come up. Ideally you want to take your booster when you start really coming up (not when you first feel all the nice things... but like... just a little while before your peak comes in).

For me, I always have realllly slow come ups, so I'll take my initial dose, then wait about 1.5 hours (sometimes 2) and hit another dose (usually its half of my first dose...sometimes I take the same amount... but for you: If doing it w/o shrooms then double drop and take another single when the time is right).

If you've managed to be in Vegas on these shrooms, then you should be fine w/ a hippy flip with the plan you outlined. (you could probably use that last half a pill as a booster about an hour or so after you take the MDMA