(MDMA) Out of Body Experience on Harry Potter Beans! MUST READ!! SUPER CREEPY!!

[HarryHood]

This ^

 

[ForEverAfter]

"And though he would play pranks on me, he would never intentionally ruin my roll, because we all knew how bad it could be when you have a bad roll." How bad it can be when you have a bad roll...are you serious? It's not a profound experience like LSD kid, and it probably wasn't even MDMA. You can't wig out and have a "bad roll" like a bad trip, they are not close to the same.

I've had many bad experiences with MDMA. It's not quite the same as LSD, no, but he didn't compare the two. You did.

Don't call people "kid", it's patronizing.

This is a harm reduction site, not a place to try and sound cool or make shit up, a lot of us here are adults.

Again, with the "a lot of us here are adults" comment. If you're generally interested in exercising harm reduction techniques, you should think about what approach is likely to work. Psychiatrists don't tell people they're "fucking crazy" because people, generally, are not receptive to being insulted and patronized. Situations like this require a certain level of tact and delicacy.

It might have been ketamine. Or it might have been MDMA. It's impossible to say. Regardless, near death experiences can be terrifying. Floating near the ceiling and seeing your unconscious/half-dead body as people try - and fail - to resuscitate you - while desperately trying - and failing - to communicate with them... That sounds pretty scary to me.

This...

...is the same thing that everyone's been saying throughout the thread.

Can we stop insulting the OP, please? He has confirmed that this took place a long time ago, and that he no longer behaves like this. From the beginning of the thread, he has indicated that it was a dangerous thing to do.

If you need to repeat the same thing that a dozen other people have said, please do so without resorting to insults and other patronizing comments. Calling him an idiot or a child might feel good, but it is has no function as a harm reduction technique.

 

[coleminor]

what do you mean by "pass me out"? like you suffocated yourself or something? that's dangerous enough without the mdma man, i would think that if you can get real drugs (which it seems you can) you wouldn't really have an interest in depriving your brain of oxygen recreationally. i don't say this maliciously, but rather out of concern. you really just shouldn't do that to yourself.

well said lol, I so agree, but I was very reckless back then

 

[coleminor]

You need new friends, straight up. If your best friend wasn't willing to risk conflict with those worthless people to call 911, he really isn't a smart choice of a tripping buddy. Hell, even before that, your tripping buddies are worthless for leaving you in a pool on a high dose of any strong drug.
Consider yourself lucky that you didn't cause yourself internal bleeding, brain swelling, etc. Because you would be a vegetable in the best case scenario thanks to your "friends"
I'm not trying to offend you, excuse my strong language, but this is a harm reduction site and if you didn't expect a harsh reaction to this, you need a wake up call regarding the seriousness of drug use, especially ecstasy.

I understand what you're saying about "harm-reduction" but you gotta understand, this is just a crazy story from my life, but it's from way back when, Like I was 19ish, I'm nearly 30 now, I'm damn near sober, but I've been through a lot of addictions, probably all of em.. anyways, when I do party nowadays, which isn't often at all, I do practice harm reduction, as much as I know. I'd NEVER have anyone pass me out again, I'd probably never take 10 rolls in a night again lol, and those people weren't my friends, they were acquaintances, only one was my friend, and he was sorta like my best/worst friend at the same time, thats a whole long story for a different time lol..

I appreciate everyone's concern, and a few rude comments, but this was simply a story of when I was a dumbass teenager who'd do anything to get just a little bit higher, at that point in my life, I didn't even know what reality was, I lived in my own world and tbh, I didn't really give a damn if I lived or died.. That is, till I think I maybe died for a few min and came back or somethin, even then, it took me years to start giving a damn about my life, my safety, and it took a few disasters to turn me in the right direction. I'm still a moron now and then, but I try not to be, I try and tell people harm reduction shyt too, when I see em doin stupid shyt, as long as I actually know what I'm talking about, I don't give people advice if I'm not sure, then I just tell them I think they maybe should reconsider or research it. I research EVERYTHING before I do ANYTHING nowadays

 

[coleminor]

I've had many bad experiences with MDMA. It's not quite the same as LSD, no, but he didn't compare the two. You did.

Don't call people "kid", it's patronizing.



Again, with the "a lot of us here are adults" comment. If you're generally interested in exercising harm reduction techniques, you should think about what approach is likely to work. Psychiatrists don't tell people they're "fucking crazy" because people, generally, are not receptive to being insulted and patronized. Situations like this require a certain level of tact and delicacy.

It might have been ketamine. Or it might have been MDMA. It's impossible to say. Regardless, near death experiences can be terrifying. Floating near the ceiling and seeing your unconscious/half-dead body as people try - and fail - to resuscitate you - while desperately trying - and failing - to communicate with them... That sounds pretty scary to me.



...is the same thing that everyone's been saying throughout the thread.

Can we stop insulting the OP, please? He has confirmed that this took place a long time ago, and that he no longer behaves like this. From the beginning of the thread, he has indicated that it was a dangerous thing to do.

If you need to repeat the same thing that a dozen other people have said, please do so without resorting to insults and other patronizing comments. Calling him an idiot or a child might feel good, but it is has no function as a harm reduction technique.

^^^ Well said, thx, lol I'm finally reading all of this

 

[eye_wide_open]

its a piece of piss, children do it all the time.
step one - get healthy, stop smoking weed [ ever notice how it stops you having / remembering dreams? ]
step two - keep a dream diary
step three - practice visualisation, visualise the room you are in with your eyes closed....thats actually harder than it sounds
or visualise a ball of light...whaever feels comfortable.

step four - possibly the most important --- stop 'trying to figure it out'! ---

children dont waste thier time thinking about it...they just do it.

get on with your life, make the effort to keep that dream diary, but dont focus on it or worry about it, make the visualisation / meditation part of your night time routine, but just do it for the sake of it, not as a means to an end.
then the dreams become more vivid.....then gradually, they become lucid [ setting two alarms will help ]
then one day you will have a lucid dream so powerful that you will know that you were somewhere else...

i'm just getting back into all this.....after a 10+ years break....

making slow progress....but my dreams are deffo getting very intense these days...

as for astral projection

i am 100% certain that i achieved it when i was in my late teens.....lower your expectations [ maybe? ] you wont be able to fly to the moon at will....but you may return to a park where you had happy days as a child....you only take your heart with you, your head stays in bed with the rest of your body...so you only go to places that mean something to you

so forget everything you've ever read about miltitary remote viewing....that is all so easily debunked

just my opinion...i'm the least new-agey person you could ever hope to meet but i knkw what i've seen maaan.
we are capable of doing it

i wonder how many ppl will stop reading after the bit where i mention stopping weed? its not a magic plant, its just a plant, and IMO, if you're after lucid dreams / astral projection it will not help

I found quitting cigarettes to help me quite a bit have my first serious real OBE/NDE along with drugs.
I've been off cigarettes for 3 years on aug 9th. After 15 years of smoking cigs.
I think stopping watching TV helps too.
That shit will brainwash you backwards back to sleep.
I've slowed down quite a bit on weed now days mostly because I'm bored with it... just use it to maintain some medical issues legally now an I do agree it honestly helps those even though I can also admit to and agree I am addicted to marijuana like I am soda pop, sugary candy and WAS cigarettes. (not any more... booyah!)

make the effort to keep that dream diary, but dont focus on it or worry about it, make the visualisation / meditation part of your night time routine, but just do it for the sake of it, not as a means to an end.
then the dreams become more vivid.....then gradually, they become lucid

I was having extremely vivid dreams not long ago and actually was keeping a dream diary in hopes of being able to learn to start lucid dreaming. I think I stopped for a while when I built my new PC and erased the ol dream diary and have since forgot. I need to start practicing again. I was getting close to Lucid dreams. I could feel it. Closer and closer with each dream I remembered and wrote down and studied later.

that is something I really would like to learn. Honestly.

However, I don't think I will EVER cross another experience like I had on drugs without even trying.
..an since having a few overdoses trying to get back there, I realized there is no need to force it, I'm lucky I've seen it the few times I have and I'm just trying to work on integrating real life back into my real life now days without going insane. lol.

I have my spurts where i go sober for a while and then my spurts when I delve into drugs here and there.

I just finished pulling myself off MXE and some other bullsh*t they have at the local liquor store that feels good when you stuff it up your nose. I do agree with you it's not always best to recommend or use drugs. I can feel that one from experience.

However...
I'm a bit miffed I can't get back to meet our creator again easily and I sure wish a lot more people could believe it but they need to feel it first.

There is a breakthrough past breakthrough, homedogs,and it's well beyond anything we can even explain or feel anywhere near this world or the next. lol
So amazing and scary an unreal and awe-inspiring, breathtaking and earth-shattering to feel it for yourself!
I see the OP didn't quite make it all the way there.
Perhaps it's good he didn't.
I'm convinced everyone doesn't always make it back after playing around in the REAL out of body.

And the name "justinsayno" pushed the Nancy Reagan warning button for me conjuring up images of innocent people being marginalized and teenagers wanking themselves silly and getting friction burns from their abstinence bracelets.

Lol I'm sorry I really strive not to be a jerk and not even drop leaves into the pond as far as tension goes but that was pretty damn funny. again I apologize..

Also, do you really think they were plotting to kill you and bury you in the woods? Come on, man, be realistic.

Please read again.
He was unconscious. They thought he might be dead.
They admitted they were wondering what they might have to do with him.
i' imagine it was just a quick moment of thought that may have frightened him momentarily.

Don't take it to heart, but you're a drama queen, man. First you say it was cut with heroin with nothing to back it up. What gave you this idea anyway, the brown coloring in the binders and fillers, haha? The "must read!! super creepy!

Should he not be excited about something that obviously scared the crap out of him at the time?

I get a bit drama-y myself around here but only because of people like you who don't like to admit what he really experienced might be what he really experienced. That's what starts to suck. I understand you think he's being a baby or whatever but don't tell him what he experienced. You weren't there.


PS sorry always editing my posts so much folks just come back and read my posts a day after I post them, should be done editing after 24 hours! LOFL!
I always add more and more to my posts.

 

[coleminor]

To me it doesn't even sound like you stayed passed out because you hit your head. Your experience sounded like it was ketamine, especially the echo and springy sounding voices and the out of body feeling. The floating feeling and the feeling of space and darkness also make me think the same thing. Next time buy a test kit and test your tablets before you take them.

Don't take it to heart, but you're a drama queen, man. First you say it was cut with heroin with nothing to back it up. What gave you this idea anyway, the brown coloring in the binders and fillers, haha? The "must read!! super creepy!! in caps, none the less. "And though he would play pranks on me, he would never intentionally ruin my roll, because we all knew how bad it could be when you have a bad roll." How bad it can be when you have a bad roll...are you serious? It's not a profound experience like LSD kid, and it probably wasn't even MDMA. You can't wig out and have a "bad roll" like a bad trip, they are not close to the same. A bad roll would be taking too much and having anticholinergic (stimulant-like i.e sweating, pupil diation, racing heart, tremors etc...) side effects. Also, do you really think they were plotting to kill you and bury you in the woods? Come on, man, be realistic. This is a harm reduction site, not a place to try and sound cool or make shit up, a lot of us here are adults.
The main point in the story is you had a fun time swimming and got your friend to cut off your oxygen (not smart in HR sense) and you had an out of body feeling from the drugs you took, not that scary. The most scary part would be for the other guys taking the blame for doing something stupid like trying to make you or someone else pass out.

That's just my opinion, so take it as you wish. It's not intended as a personal attack. Hopefully the experience will just restore some common sense.

- I've had a few truly spiritual experiences on Rolls, Some good, Some bad, It's way different than LSD, and I think one time in particular there may have been some sort of trip in the shyt I took, who knows, didn't care back then, just popped whatever I was given. But even on straight molly, very clean roll, as an adult I use drugs like these not just for fun, but to try and ascend to a higher state of mind, and I really have had some amazing life changing experiences on rolls. ijs..

 

[eye_wide_open]

I've never had crazy experiences on "rolls" but only because I've only taken one at a time up to 3 a night before, and those particular ones were low quality. But I do know somebody who says they have hallucinated on "e" pills and loves them.
Another friend will never eat any drugs again because he took too many E pills one night and hallucinated too much.

 

[coleminor]

I've never had crazy experiences on "rolls" but only because I've only taken one at a time up to 3 a night before, and those particular ones were low quality. But I do know somebody who says they have hallucinated on "e" pills and loves them.
Another friend will never eat any drugs again because he took too many E pills one night and hallucinated too much.

It's a lil weird that I don't know a lot about rolls n shyt being how much I've done it lol, but back then, you didn't have to test every pill. I live in SWFL, shyt down here was poppin, it was all over the place, and it was all potent, and I would take literally like 10 in a night lol. I've always been extreme, I have to push shyt too far, but A lot of it wasn't like, oh yea, I wanna get high, la de da de da.. It was like, I want to have another experience like that, I want another epiphany moment, and I'd push my luck.. not to mention, when they're cheap, and they're all over the place, you should have em locked up once u get started, cuz once I'm rollin, If I got a bottle of em, I'mma just keep eatin em all night like candy.. Very addictive personality.. My music, Drugs, Video Games, Foods, whatever I like, I will do like crazy. I get a new video game, I beat that shyt in a day or two, maybe a week or so depend upon the game, but I'll play non stop until I've beaten it. A book, a really good book, if I read the first few pages, I will not put it down, I will try to read and drive lol, I Just gotta finish it. This is very bad when it comes to drugs lol..

Anyways, seeing shyt different these days, and I still aim for those spiritual events. But I try to be careful in the things I do.

Question now.. Since the whole thread has somewhat evolved lol..

I was watching history channel. I saw a program about ancients and things they did to connect to a more spiritual plane.

There is this stuff called Ayahuasca Tea, And it is supposed to be made by a shaman, which would be sweet.. If I knew a shaman lol. I'm thinking about getting the ingredients, and actually trying very hard to be on a higher spiritual level when I make the tea. And consume it while holding the same energy.

Here's the wiki on the tea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayahuasca

Anyone Heard of or know anything about this?

 

[justinsayno]

yeah - its DMT + MAOI [ so the DMT isnt rendered useless by stomache acid ]

lots of throwing up involved, it also has the potential to disappoint [ obvs not if it works...but not unheard of for ppl to spend ages boiling away and only getting threshold or body load ]
shrooms far more reliable, and the active ingredient is only a kick in the arse away from DMT anyway

just my opinion

 

[KingoDJ]

to everyone with a set of braincells in here, i commend you for wasting you time actually trying to talk to this muppet lol!

i assume "passing out" is that shit where you crunch of real tight for a minute then get someone to press on your heart real hard or soemthin galong those lines! what a fucking stupid thing to do sober, let alone on drugs...

ill join that siiiiigh

 

[ForEverAfter]

Ayahuasca, Iboga and Muscimol are some of the strongest drug experiences out there, according to the majority of trip reports I've read. For better or worse, they tend to have such a strong impact on the users life that they "become" a different person. I refer to to stages of my life now. Pre Muscaria and Post Muscaria. I am very interested in pursuing Iboga, which is legally aqcuirable in Australia, and Ayahuasca, which can be made from the bark of various Australian trees (along with, as justin pointed out, a MAOI). It's quite possible to purchase a natural MAOI at a nursery. Will post my Ayahuasca trip report soon. As for Iboga, I'm planning on tripping in January 2013. Need to make a substantial number of changes to my lifestyle first. I'm getting there; it's day 27/183.

 

[coleminor]

Ayahuasca, Iboga and Muscimol are some of the strongest drug experiences out there, according to the majority of trip reports I've read. For better or worse, they tend to have such a strong impact on the users life that they "become" a different person. I refer to to stages of my life now. Pre Muscaria and Post Muscaria. I am very interested in pursuing Iboga, which is legally aqcuirable in Australia, and Ayahuasca, which can be made from the bark of various Australian trees (along with, as justin pointed out, a MAOI). It's quite possible to purchase a natural MAOI at a nursery. Will post my Ayahuasca trip report soon. As for Iboga, I'm planning on tripping in January 2013. Need to make a substantial number of changes to my lifestyle first. I'm getting there; it's day 27/183.

Plz Send me a message when u do the Ayahuasca report in case I don't see it. I've been pretty interested in trying it for a while now. the puking and possible diarrhea isn't cool lol, but this isn't the type of thing I'd be doing to have a good time, it's something I'd do as a more spiritual event.

 

[AbsintheKittie]

I KNOW this is an old thread.. But I really really wanted / needed to make a comment here..

First....There was a TON of black lash in this thread sent at the "OP" about their knowledge.. Or rather lack there of.. A Mod (Sorry I don't recall who) Asked everyone to please keep in mind Harm reduction and so on.....

I was on this board many years ago and lost my account and have only recently come back. AND its a very different place.. People back then use to educate each other and help not just slam each other for what they do and do not know.. and IT'S BS!!! I asked a question that there is NO active thread for over in the MDMA forum about candy-flipping and pretty much had my head ripped off..

What a lot of people that have been in the "scene" for a long time forget is that if you do not know what you are looking for its really hard to know what to search for or gain an understanding of what you might be dealing with / interested in.

Many of the misconceptions about adulterants that the OP had, were the same ones that I had been told back in the day as well.. and on the net if you look them up.. the mainstream sites all push that propaganda to scare people .. and all know there are a million myths out there... yet as a community is seems when someone wants / needs and education people lash out , call names and treat people like crap.. Where is the harm reduction in that?? I had to self educate but not everyone is savvy enough to be able to find all the information on their own or even know that what information that they have is wrong.....

This may show my age.. BUT what happen to P.L.U.R. ??? At least when people were sticking to that they treated each other better..

This poor person, the OP, has been badly treated here , talked down to and deprived of the rights afforded to them by being HUMAN!! ~~~ RESPECT !!! ~~~

and OP.. I would guess that they others were right on that you ended up having an out of body experience, maybe not form the MDMA, but from passing out and hitting your head.. Even Hockey players have experienced this on the Ice when knocked out. They have seen them selves laying in a pile, then picked up and carried off the ice and walked into the locker room....knowing what happen the whole time, unable to speak, and when they "come up" and ask why no one would talk back to them, they are told that they were out cold. I think that being on MDMA could intensify this experience and maybe even make it more lucid and add a floating "detached" feeling more then that of just passing out..

I was really glad to see that you are being far more responsible now with your over all drug uses.. Also being in central Florida, I heard all the same myths you did and they started for me way about in the mid 1990's ...and it took years till I could find info on the net to debunk it.. I LIVED on pillreports once I found it.. Would just pick an area and search what had been posted and tested.. it was GREAT to see what was really in stuff..


Even if you only do stuff once in a blue moon.. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE get a test kit.. GO to Dancesafe and get one.. it CAN SAVE YOUR LIFE OR YOUR FRIENDS!!!

 

[HumbleYogi]

You need some new friends. Did they even bother to check your pulse? Bury you in the ground....that would of went over well. Be safe man.