Mdma + mda

[StrutterGear]

^ I think it is highly irresponsible to advise people to redose. This is the number one thing that will make the neurotoxicity much, much worse.

The logic here is 'space your rolls'...so do you really want to space them by 30 minutes to an hour when the recommended wait time is 3 months? Think about it.

I should of mentioned it increases neurotoxicity, I had in my 3-4 other posts in similar threads yesterday. However, you have to be practical, one redose at 50-75% is unlikely to cause permenant harm. At a 6-10 hour rave one dose isnt enough unless you just accept you're going to spend part of it sobre.

Everybody should be spacing there rolls for 3 months, minimum one month anyway. Think you're being over zealous but you aren't wrong.

 

[Folley]

Taking a half dose between the 30min and 60min mark leaves me feeling the same afterwards as if I only took one bomb, but extends the roll by about an hour.

Ditto here. IDK what you're redosing Cryptix haha

It definitely increases the comedown... but by like a few days if you're responsible. That's well worth it IMO, I comedown for a week off any dose, if I take a small redose I come down for like 10 days lol

 

[Chesh]

If I drop on the Friday I'm usually back to being 100% normal by the following Thursday.

 

[StrutterGear]

If I drop on the Friday I'm usually back to being 100% normal by the following Thursday.

Takes me 1 day of feeling rough, 1 day of feeling fatigued, then I'm generally fine :Z

Only time I've had a week long hangover is off the end of a nasty binge where I ended up feinting randomly.

 

[Chesh]

Takes me 1 day of feeling rough, 1 day of feeling fatigued, then I'm generally fine :Z

Only time I've had a week long hangover is off the end of a nasty binge where I ended up feinting randomly.

1 day of having an afterglow buy being knackered. Then maybe a bit fatiqued for another day or two. Then for the rest of the week I'll most likely get a few more lower moods than usual if I'm on my own, or a bit more anxiety.

 

[StrutterGear]

1 day of having an afterglow buy being knackered. Then maybe a bit fatiqued for another day or two. Then for the rest of the week I'll most likely get a few more lower moods than usual if I'm on my own, or a bit more anxiety.

My mood always trips out like 2 weeks later. Will just be playing Xbox then feel really sad all of a sudden, trips me out haha.

 

[Chesh]

My mood always trips out like 2 weeks later. Will just be playing Xbox then feel really sad all of a sudden, trips me out haha.

Yeah I'm prone to that anyway so an MDMA comedown just makes it worse/more frequent. Best thing is just to remind yourself it's a temporary mood swing and go for a run.

 

[cryptix420]

Ditto here. IDK what you're redosing Cryptix haha

It definitely increases the comedown... but by like a few days if you're responsible. That's well worth it IMO, I comedown for a week off any dose, if I take a small redose I come down for like 10 days lol

.....I'm not redosing anything. That has been the whole point of my posts. Nice try at a sarcastic comment though.

"it definitely increases the comedown"....


You are a proponent of redosing, saying 'ditto' implYing that redosing causes you to feel no different after your roll than if you were to take one dose, then you go on to say it actually does make the comedown worse..

I'd say your username is spot on.

 

[Folley]

^ Why the attack? I was agreeing that redosing will lengthen the time and intensity of the period of 5-HT depletion that occurs after MDMA, but I disagree that it shouldn't be done, ever.

I think in the right setting and if done safely, you can redose (once) without causing any significant amount of damage more than what would have already occurred.




and from the previous page, I'm WELL aware Shulgin wasn't the end all authority on MDMA. He was often wrong, in fact.. being a chemist doesn't make you qualified to make statements on neurochemical changes that occur from taking those chemicals. He has a lot of great points however, and I believe the 120mg dose with a 50-75% redose under an hour later to be a safe and effective way of taking MDMA



Not redosing is always safer, obviously. But taking MDMA isn't safe in the first place.. so you balance the risk with the rewards. I guess the reward isn't worth the risk, to you

 

[StrutterGear]

^ Why the attack? I was agreeing that redosing will lengthen the time and intensity of the period of 5-HT depletion that occurs after MDMA, but I disagree that it shouldn't be done, ever.

I think in the right setting and if done safely, you can redose (once) without causing any significant amount of damage more than what would have already occurred.




and from the previous page, I'm WELL aware Shulgin wasn't the end all authority on MDMA. He was often wrong, in fact.. being a chemist doesn't make you qualified to make statements on neurochemical changes that occur from taking those chemicals. He has a lot of great points however, and I believe the 120mg dose with a 50-75% redose under an hour later to be a safe and effective way of taking MDMA



Not redosing is always safer, obviously. But taking MDMA isn't safe in the first place.. so you balance the risk with the rewards. I guess the reward isn't worth the risk, to you

Finally somebody being practical.

 

[MollyFein74]

To the bloke who wants to try MDEA, personally wouldn't waste your time think of MDMA with more munt a little less empathy and legs that just won't move as it will floor you hard. I also noticed I had some CEV with it aswell!

Would love to try MDMA+MDA aswell sometime soon though...heard great things

 

[Folley]

[MEGA] MDxx family combination thread - MDMA + MDA + MDE

Well, surprisingly enough there wasn't any mega thread on this earlier, so I decided to make one so we can keep all the discussion on the topic in one place to make things easier to read. The MDMA + MDA combo seems to be growing in popularity, so it's about time we have a thread for it! MDE will have an honorable mention as well, but I doubt we'll see anyone with questions about that one

I guess I'll start off with some tips for anyone who is going to try the combo:


Dose a bit lower than you normally would. If you normally take 150mg, take about 130 or so of the two doses combined.

Get ready for a bit more of an "E Tarded" roll than normal.. it's really not too bad, but I find myself getting the 5 second memory and running around opening up about things I shouldn't a lot more than I would on either drug alone

If you've never tried MDA, just play it cool if shit starts to get weird. If it looks like everyone is wearing sunglasses at 2 in the morning or you see a pirate ship in the sky... you're doing it right.


There are also several ways you can do this combo, every one a bit unique from the last.
You can take a mostly MDMA dose, with small 25-30mg booster of MDA to add on some psychedelia..
or you can take mostly MDA to get the full psychedelic effects, and take a moderate dose of MDMA (30-50mg) to add some empathy. That would be my personal favorite
Or, you can take a 50/50 dose of each... I find that's when you get the most "E Tarded", but that's not always so bad

Experiment around with the combo, find out what YOU like. I know I much prefer MDA to MDMA, so I usually lean towards heavy MDA with some MDMA thrown in to spice things up.




Some notable pills:
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=1345
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=330
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=1387
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=731



So, what amazing times have you guys had with this combo?

 

[jazir5]

Well, surprisingly enough there wasn't any mega thread on this earlier, so I decided to make one so we can keep all the discussion on the topic in one place to make things easier to read. The MDMA + MDA combo seems to be growing in popularity, so it's about time we have a thread for it! MDE will have an honorable mention as well, but I doubt we'll see anyone with questions about that one

I guess I'll start off with some tips for anyone who is going to try the combo:


Dose a bit lower than you normally would. If you normally take 150mg, take about 130 or so of the two doses combined.

Get ready for a bit more of an "E Tarded" roll than normal.. it's really not too bad, but I find myself getting the 5 second memory and running around opening up about things I shouldn't a lot more than I would on either drug alone

If you've never tried MDA, just play it cool if shit starts to get weird. If it looks like everyone is wearing sunglasses at 2 in the morning or you see a pirate ship in the sky... you're doing it right.


There are also several ways you can do this combo, every one a bit unique from the last.
You can take a mostly MDMA dose, with small 25-30mg booster of MDA to add on some psychedelia..
or you can take mostly MDA to get the full psychedelic effects, and take a moderate dose of MDMA (30-50mg) to add some empathy. That would be my personal favorite
Or, you can take a 50/50 dose of each... I find that's when you get the most "E Tarded", but that's not always so bad

Experiment around with the combo, find out what YOU like. I know I much prefer MDA to MDMA, so I usually lean towards heavy MDA with some MDMA thrown in to spice things up.




Some notable pills:
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=1345
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=330
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=1387
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=731



So, what amazing times have you guys had with this combo?

The first time i rolled, I'm pretty sure i had an mdma/mda combo. My friend gave me a light show with his gloves which he had just decked out before audiotistic. It was the coolest trip of my life. I literally saw a galaxy in his hands. I felt like i was some 4th dimensional being that could see the entire galaxy at once.

After the light show, i saw his face transform into a slightly green demon. It was cooler than it was scary. Then i just rolled around in the sheets and listened to music for 3 more hours and passed out. I took too much so the whole experience is somewhat of a blur, and it was two years ago, but i remember bits and pieces very vividly Great night.

 

[O JMASTA R]

Too young : (
After having mda though I really want to try mde I wish I lived in the days of good md analogs. I felt privledged to see bkmdma & 4mmc not trying to derail the thread but seriously I want a good mde pill!