MDMA in crystal form - question on tolerance

[weekendwarrior11]

Okay so before I ask my question, please don't tell me how stupid my past actions are.. Cause I know I'm an idiot.

Anyways back when the crystal form of MDMA (for ease of writing this I'm going to call it molly) first made a big entrance to my city I was getting large amounts for very cheap. Well me and the girlfriend tried it a couple weekend in a row and then we binged hardcore on it for like 5 days straight. (Luckily it didn't fuck us up too bad) in the 5 day binge I think we had a total of about 6 grams split between us (roughly 3 grams a piece)

Well that was 3 years ago now and in those three years since we have taken molly at least once a month, but usually more like 2-4 times a month when it was around. Obviously we kept having to up our dose and it got to the point where we were dropping like a half gram each to get rolling hard. .2 or .3 sometimes even .4 wouldn't get us off anymore. (Mind you I'd always test my shit and it was almost always pure.)

Anyways, we haven't done it in almost 2 months now because the last couple times we did it, we took our normal doses of normal potency and we would feel all the rolling side effect but what used to feel amazing (you guys know the mdma feeling) it was kind of uncomfortable. Really speedy and jittery. It was the same stuff that used to make us roll and love it for hours so its not the product.

I don't know it felt like rolling normally does but we didn't enjoy it for some reason. Normally we are all over each other hugging, kissing, apatheticly talking till our jaws hurt and lately we kinda just watch a movie and feel awkward rolling (for lack of a better word).

Sorry for the long post. But did I fuck up rolling like the good old days for good? I mean I've studied MDMA and read a million of these forums and knew what I was doing wasn smart but I just hope if I wait long enough it will be good again. I didn't fuck the chemicals in my brain (I don't think cause I'm super happy with my life and always feel good, no depression or anything like that)

I'll stop rambling now. Please help!!

Edit- I also through out those three years was doing pretty much every other typical drug out there with the exception of methand heroin. (I.e. coke, pharms, psychedelics, weed.) I've always had a 40 hour a week job and just do whatever comes by as a little vacation, for lack of a better word. And BTW I know a half gram seems like a rediculously high dose, but that is what would get us rolling. Its scaring me looking at other threads where people are talking about 300mg and 400mg be a really high dose. :/ thanks for reading all this.

 

[lostsoul.On.E]

Well i would look at your situation and be happy you didnt fuck yourself up. Too many people come on here saying they havent felt right in months. If you dont feel all fucked up consider yourself lucky and stop now. Some people arent meant to be fucking around with drugs and you are obviously one of them. I would really reconsider your drug use man. People like you give drugs and drug users a bad rep. Sorry for being blunt but 3 grams on the 5th day of a binge? If this is true you are an idiot. Take a break for years, and then maybe youll be able to roll in MODERATION! but it will probably never be the same. Again sorry man but i just get so worked up because ecstasy is my favorite drug, it is amazing and it has sooo much potential to better peoples lives. And then theres people like you that make it on the news for overdosing because you took 3 grams on a fifth night of a binge, i think you were snorting sugar dude, i dont believe it.

 

[weekendwarrior11]

Well in my first post I don't know if I wrote it wrong or you read it wrong but I said/meant a TOTAL of 3 grams for a 5... Actually now that I think about it it was only 4 days but anyways 4 day binge.

I just remember the first night was like .5 spread out over the night, then the next night I did a gram or a little over (people were just handing it to me for free cause it was my house we were partying at), then next night like .6 about, then the last night roughly .3 or .4. And yeah I know, it was about the best 4 days of my life and worst all at the same time.

And to be honest man I never tried to abuse it. I work all the damn time in a metal shop and never really get a break so molly was always my weekend escape. That binge, yes was one of those story that could have possibly been tragic, but no one in my city knew what the stuff was and we were all 18 and invincable.

So I never tried to abuse it I just slowly was increasing my dose as I was building a tolerance. It is by far my favorite substance also and It almost killed me but It also helped me and my relationships and my life more then any anti depressant or therapy or anything could.

I can completely agree with you on what you said, I just want to make it clear I love and believe in MDMA just as much as the next guy. I just have terrible self control and always took the chance when it was around.

But I feel normal as of now and I did always when I was doing it a lot (my comedowns would be only the day after; 2 days after I pretty much felt normal again.) Im already planning on waiting at least a year or more. I just want to know if you think the magic will come back if I wait long enough?

 

[weekendwarrior11]

And BTW I have never snorted MDMA (with the exception of one roll back in the day but it hurt and never did it again.) I always ate my MDMA. No matter what form I got it in.

 

[lostsoul.On.E]

yea i understand you man. you bust your ass all week and just want to do what you enjoy on the weekends. Its just mdma is not the type of drug you can do every weekend. Maybe i am so harsh on people that use it every weekend because i do it once a year. I even feel like once a month is way too much. I just enjoy it so much i want to keep that amazing feeling for a lifetime. everytime i roll is literally like the first time. Obviously some are better than others but i always roll like a mad man.

If i were you id give it atleast a year break. Then maybe you can do it very seldom like i do and get that magic back.

 

[tacodude]

You are using way to much...... Take a break. Don't use more than 200-300 mg a night if it's pure and that is even excessive. 90 followed by 30 should be more than enough for most anyone unless they have built a tolerance to MDMA no one should end up building.

 

[Bg1279]

Yea and honestly it is a big mind frame thing going Into an MDMA high. If you're relaxed and just waiting to see how it goes you have a much better chance of "having a good roll" it's similar but not nearly as extreme as a bad trip with shrooms or acid .

I myself have only done shrooms not acid but I hear bad acid trips can be worse than a bad shroom trip. I had a bad shroom trip and it was because I went into not wanting to trip but unwilling to turn down free shrooms, i was miserable, I laid in bed thinking about what I was doing with my life and just wanting to be able to think straight again.

It's the same premise with most drugs but MDMA specifically and especially if you've rolled multiple times before. You have more control over your high which can actually be a bad thing of yours nervous or full of anxiety. If you're going to take MDMA I suggest you fully understand what you're getting into and plan out a safe roll. Whether that's with strangers, a partner, or alone make a plan and stick to it and just worry about enjoying yourself and it'll be a good time. In weekendwarrior11. Not to push you to do it more but you don't have to wait a year (although that will be a great high of you do wait that long) just don't focus on what type of high you're gonna have, you're putting too much emphasis on it and pressure for it to live up to what you remember the first time. It'll never be that again but it can still be am AWESOME time if you relax are safe and not abuse it. But most of all (besides not abusing it) is to relax and dont put expectations on the high! You're thinking too much. I've done it plenty of times especially if I have to work or be around non users when I'm rolling. Not good waste of a good drug. And I believe MDMA as opposed to meth is able to be used in moderation with very minimal negative side effects.

 

[everteen]

This topic seems good as any.

Is MDMA peak really supposed to last only about two hours? Got some crystal form MDMA, which - while the high was unbelievably awesome - only lasted about 2-2,5 and then the euphoric peak faded very quickly. After that no euphoria, no blurred vision, no enhanced audio, but only a mellow stimulation, like a lame version of amphetamine.

First time I was impatient and waited only 40 minutes before redosing, but second time waited for about an hour before redosing. But still the peak was probably only a little over two hours. I didn't parachute it in tobacco paper, I just swallowed the crystal powder with with water. I don't know if that's the wrong way to eat it or is MDMA really that short-lasting. I did try to do it the right way, my initial dose was 1.5x my bodyweight and redose was a half of that. But I didn't get 4-6 hours rolling from it, not even near that. Short duartion sucks, because this is easily better than anything I've tried before.