The issue with the trials was the weird touch therapy used. Why on earth they used a strange nonstandard form of therapy I have no idea but they definitely shot themselves in the foot with it
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emkee_reinvented
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Another you tube about taking heroic dosages of psychedelics to treat mental disorders mentioned excact that.
But during drug assisted therapie should be avoided. The reason the manual mentions specific boundaries and guidelines.
But this is also in it:
• Therapeutic techniques should be available to address somatic manifestations oftrauma that arise. These may include one or more approaches such as nurturing touch,focused bodywork, breathing techniques, or other approaches to somatosensory
Were they/ someone abusing that point from MAPS manual in the session, date rape drug style? besides the nurturing touch, wonder who came up with stupid idea at MAPS they seem useful, however other approaches is a bit vague.
edit: @someguyontheinternet
re-reading my reply now and all seem a bit weird, and indeed when in bad hands instuments to.
Narrowing it down breathing techniques seems the only reasonable one, which you can learn yourself before the session. During seems a bit late and irritating. Like all the other three.
But during drug assisted therapie should be avoided. The reason the manual mentions specific boundaries and guidelines.
But this is also in it:
• Therapeutic techniques should be available to address somatic manifestations oftrauma that arise. These may include one or more approaches such as nurturing touch,focused bodywork, breathing techniques, or other approaches to somatosensory
Were they/ someone abusing that point from MAPS manual in the session, date rape drug style? besides the nurturing touch, wonder who came up with stupid idea at MAPS they seem useful, however other approaches is a bit vague.
edit: @someguyontheinternet
re-reading my reply now and all seem a bit weird, and indeed when in bad hands instuments to.
Narrowing it down breathing techniques seems the only reasonable one, which you can learn yourself before the session. During seems a bit late and irritating. Like all the other three.
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emkee_reinvented
Bluelighter
Ok just offered myself as participant for the phase 4 trials where they include adolescent's. A 50 year old adolescent 
The one thing that struck me as odd is they started on 10 kids in phase 2. Phase 3 is evaluation. Phase 4, 2026/ 2030 the trial is extended to adolescent's and 12/ 15 year olds. And family therapy investigated. In 2030 its supposed to become a available treatment. 6 years!
The Dutch MDMA assisted therapy trial https://makemdmamedicine.nl/roadmap/
If a reply comes back, i ll keep you updated. Fingers crossed.
The one thing that struck me as odd is they started on 10 kids in phase 2. Phase 3 is evaluation. Phase 4, 2026/ 2030 the trial is extended to adolescent's and 12/ 15 year olds. And family therapy investigated. In 2030 its supposed to become a available treatment. 6 years!
The Dutch MDMA assisted therapy trial https://makemdmamedicine.nl/roadmap/
If a reply comes back, i ll keep you updated. Fingers crossed.