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MDMA comedowns and Psychopathy

blight12

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Bit of a strange question but I was hoping somebody with the technical knowledge might offer an opinion, though im sure the facts might yet be fully understood...

I was thinking about my experience with MDMA abuse and the resultant derealization/depersonazation experience as a result of this. It has always interested me due to experiencing a situation perceived as having zero emotion at all, not even the bad ones, simply nothing at all.

I realized this experience would be very difficult for anybody to understand without experiencing it or at least relate this extreme situation to resulting in symptoms of negative emotions like depression or anxiety since the idea of zero emotions is so foreign we cannot even guess at what that might be like. At least that was my realization after the experience.

I was wondering if this situation might be a reasonably accurate representation of what a psychopath (strictly in terms of the lack of emotion or empathy definition) must experience?

I did note that certain related behavior was very apparent when i was in that state such as total analytical logic based thinking (unclouded by fear or emotion) which I could tell provided an improved ability to reason, plan, interact, think etc that might account for the intelligence factor commonly mentioned.

Additionally i noted the easy ability to mimic and act appropriately or as would be expected, hiding any sign of distress or change in behavior. Going trough the motions automatically was the immediate reaction to deal with the change.

Then of course the lack of empathy resulted in for example viewing loved ones without a single care of they lived or died. Didnt matter either way, it was just a non consideration as apposed to joy at the idea of inflicting pain as could be perceived as the motivations for negative actions with those diagnosed.

Anyways the idea of having had a glimpse into the experience of a difficult to understand or relate to mental illness is appealing. Would it be an accurate one. Just thought it was interesting as well and the idea of whether theoretically damaging your Serotonin functions to the needed extent could result in becoming a psycho so to speak (as per this context of course). I will say after my experience messing with Serotonin now seems like a really bad idea all round.
 
Fuck.. I understood 32% of this since im currently healing up on an mdma abuse binge.. Where did all my brain cells go!! Forget psychopathy, how about the stupidity everyone gets after.. Or that could just be me.
 
Who me? Or the other victim? Being dramatic is impossible when you no longer have any emotion or soul left due to MDMA use. Wait now im just being dramatic, or perhaps im just imitating this emotional response? I just dont know anymore....
 
I understand the feelings of apathy post roll.. It usually only lasts a day or two with me and im (mostly) back to myself..
Exercise usually speeds this up. I notice i find myself lacking certain feelings sometimes too, but im not sure if im paying more attention to it, or if i actually have less emotion..

Positive attitude goes a long way. Atleast try not to worry about it and lay off stims and mdma for a while.
 
I understand the feelings of apathy post roll.. It usually only lasts a day or two with me and im (mostly) back to myself..
Exercise usually speeds this up. I notice i find myself lacking certain feelings sometimes too, but im not sure if im paying more attention to it, or if i actually have less emotion..

Positive attitude goes a long way. Atleast try not to worry about it and lay off stims and mdma for a while.

Yes the apathy is a common thing, I used to call it a feeling of neutral contentness and it was enjoyable to an extent, since nothing really bothered you. This however is nothing close to what i am describing when you take 15 or so pills across 2 days and literally loose all emotion completely for 3 days due to a serious overdose situation.

This is why i mention that it can be hard to understand or be assumed to the inexperienced as a far more normal regular side effect. Most would think im am referring to the typical perception of reduced emotion. Apathy is still emotion, perhaps reduced.

Im talking zero emotion. Those who few who have been there know of what i speak. I takes high degree of stupidity and reckless irresponsible effort to get right. I learnt my lesson for sure. Take care with thos drug. It wasnt worth the years of suffering afterwards.
 
Who me? Or the other victim? Being dramatic is impossible when you no longer have any emotion or soul left due to MDMA use. Wait now im just being dramatic, or perhaps im just imitating this emotional response? I just dont know anymore....

What other victim? o.O... there's only you here. >.<

Anyhow, take some 5-htp, vitamins, and go exercise your butt! Get your brain juices and blood flowing again! You'll be OK in no time! Stay happy and positive. Sending good vibes your way ~ Goodluck.
 
^^ Im good now, this was about 8 years ago. I now do meth which is far more friendly on your mental health imo (dont take my word for it though!). Just though the idea of a comparison with the mental illness was interesting. I think about these odd things even years later, im wierd lol. I did take things to far yes but MDMA still has far less margin for error then other seemingly more "dangerous drugs". Its innocent reputation disturbs me. I dont want anybody else to ever deal with this stuff if it can be helped.
 
Well 8 years ago thats all there was. My first drug as an innocent youth. Didnt even do weed. Of course my youth an ignorance where the reason for the abuse and misuse. Its my fault as well as well the drug itself, no doubt. Just saying it is far less tolerant to irresponsible usage then any new user might naturally assume. Especially if you are familiar with the ability to use other stimulants weekly or 2 nights in a row.

Assuming that is ok with MDMA as well is natural but would be a big mistake. MDMA is a very good example of why forums like this and the idea of educating yourself on these things could save your heaps of long term issues. I wish i had found this place before using this drug. Safe usage is certinally possible but the information is needed to succeed in doing this properly, probably more so then many other substances.
 
I've experienced this before.. and no i don't think that it's psychopathic.. If you saw something that would upset you.. it would upset you..
 
I've experienced this before.. and no i don't think that it's psychopathic.. If you saw something that would upset you.. it would upset you..

Yeah the technical data also indicates more then simply lack of emotional capacity but increased aggression etc. Its likely not an accurate comparison but it is an interesting experience that I would say was something I would never have been able to imagine and in retrospect has value in terms of a rare glimpse into the more stranger things in life, but its not worth all the issues that come with it. But i try to find value in the bad times. Regrets suck.
 
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