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Mdma , coke and a lot of alcohol

I’m biased because I hate alcohol on its own. It’s only really worth doing combined with cocaine and even then not really. Maybe once or twice. But alcohol is particularly bad to combine with MDMA because of its dehydrating effect. MDMA has already neurotoxic and combining alcohol (which is also toxic and leads to worse overheating in the brain) just makes it more so.
 
fairnymph said:
I’m biased because I hate alcohol on its own. It’s only really worth doing combined with cocaine and even then not really. Maybe once or twice. But alcohol is particularly bad to combine with MDMA because of its dehydrating effect. MDMA has already neurotoxic and combining alcohol (which is also toxic and leads to worse overheating in the brain) just makes it more so.
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Cocaine and alcohol is a worse combo however
 
fairnymph said:
I’m biased because I hate alcohol on its own. It’s only really worth doing combined with cocaine and even then not really. Maybe once or twice. But alcohol is particularly bad to combine with MDMA because of its dehydrating effect. MDMA has already neurotoxic and combining alcohol (which is also toxic and leads to worse overheating in the brain) just makes it more so.
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Mdma makes the body hold onto water and NOT excrete it. Not sure if that counts as dehydration.

Also nothing to stop you drinking water or soft drinks as well as the alcohol.
 
fairnymph said:
Most people are idiots.
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i often think when some people use drugs "i can't see you really getting anything out of that."

some combos are pretty much just getting fucked up from my experience. i stay away from that.

i'm not saying people shouldn't even do stuff that fucks them up... like get black out drunk if you want if you're not causing problems... it's just not healthy. kind of comes across as stupid.
 
i don't have a lot of experience with drinking and mdma... like one time i got offered a beer at a party and always drink. my friend's mom offered me a beer, and i didn't want to be like "i'm rolling. i can't" so i drank it.. i dunno. i feel like it threw off the roll... i know everyone's brain chemistry is different. i just feel like some people might not get the feeling of the drug, and are just getting messed up... i'm not gonna say there is a specific thing you're supposed to be feeling from a drug either.

like with people enjoying some drug combos, i just think, i kind of doubt that person has every experienced a great trip with psychedelics.. maybe that's just not possible for them. i really don't know... just after doing some combinations with alcohol, or certain drugs in general. i just feel like that shit is poisoning me. i don't get why people don't give that stuff up.

got to say though, i smoke pot and some people are like "how the hell can you stand that shit. disgusting putting stuff in your lungs. makes me feel like shit".... i feel like if you read about science, pot is a lot less harsh on the body and brain... so i mean, some people are gonna say even if you're slightly damaging yourself it's stupid. it's all perspective.

personally kind of depressing for me to see people doing some drug combos... it's like that far off in my experience of that stuff being enjoyable for me to be able to imagine that the person is actually having a good time with some drugs.
 
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With no expectations whatsoever, i didn't really notice at first while i kept a wad of the leaf chewing on it on the side of my mouth ever so often and swallowing the juices, cause it's used like tea over there-"the working man's marijuana/poor man's drug of choice" is what they call it..,
 
ELeunAmeN said:
The absolute Best offering I've ever been fortunate enough to discover is the botanical called Kratom -Mytragenia Speciosa , which can typically be found at about 150-160 a kilo of the Green Strain , because it comes in a full spectrum of colors naturally and each one has different effects because the active opioid-like receptor-competing and naturally tasting WITH the homeostasis of the body environment within which it frankly integrates and never more than gives a pretty damn good buzz which otherwise one wouldn't have etc or a caffeine like, but so much more and better and without the jitters lasting over two hours comfortably relaxing while BALANCING all the parts of the mind and the body which we, as in myself and you guys-cause I KNOW you know where I'm coming from😉 and working over and over and over every single time as well as the first WITH NO BUILDUP, like so casual with lortabs or any of that other carp that your gut won't even digest and process after a while , not to even mention that its effects don't bring you what you are looking for with an opiate at all.....I found green malay kratom at a smoke shop in Florida, where i was so desperate to try anything at all, since i ran out of every one of the hydrocod'N 10's that I had, which I was, no bull, taking 2-3 every single hour, until my stomach simply didn't wanna stop cramping and it was too painful to do anything but eat and sleepz..,
With no expectations whatsoever, i didn't really notice at first while i kept a wad of the leaf chewing on it on the side of my mouth ever so often and swallowing the juices, cause it's used like tea over there-"the working man's marijuana/poor man's drug of choice" is what they call it..,
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