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MDMA, better at low doses?

TangerinO

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I had a really interesting experience with MDMA last night I'd love to share on this forum.
I'll try to keep it short and sweet, two of my best mates got back from Europe a few days ago and I had about a point and a half of quality crystal, so we split it between the three of us, dunked it and went for a walk, my girlfriend was also there and another mate, who were sober. We hadn't seen each other properly in months so naturally we really couldn't wait for the eye wobbles to kick in, even though we didn't dose much. So we go for a walk, and we're listening to music and watching the stars just really waiting for it to kick in so we can start just munting around my neighbourhood and have a really fun silly night.

Well we're waiting and waiting for like an hour or more, which is quite long for crystal in my experience, it's just not really doing that much other than little tiny rushes and a general lift in mood, so we were all got a little bummed, thinking we'd wasted a good strong single dose of this amazing Molly by trying to split it among the three of us. The wind is picking up it's getting chilli, so we decide to head back to my house and just chill out. My girlfriend has to head home and I went off and said goodbye and had a really amazing chat and hug with her, I almost wouldn't let her leave for a while, hugs were far too awesome and this led me to think maybe we'd been too hasty.

So we're chilling and smoking a few cones and just having what seemed at first like a normal conversation, and all of a sudden we all realise we were talking really differently, we were all starting sentences with "I feel" and we were just getting shit off our chest, even the one guy with us who wasn't dinging said he had never enjoyed a conversation so much or felt so accepted and able to open up to a group. We talked about everything, ourselves, each other, other parts of the world, back home, family, friends, life, existence, occupy wall street, corporate greed, philosophy, honestly we couldn't shut the fuck up and ended up talking until 3 in the morning despite the deso driver had to work at 5.

So we covered pretty much everything, but the main thing we all noticed was that our problems, the things that we had been rattling around in our brain for ages and had been beating ourselves up for, the things we had been worried about ourselves, things we didn't like about our personalities, at least one other person in the group had been going through the EXACT same thing, and everyone had their own problems and things that really ate them up inside and played on their mind. When you've been torturing yourself about something for months and then in an instant realise you're actually not alone, and that even your best friends share your afflictions, I have to say for me it was far more rewarding than the strongest pills, and the whackiest eye wobblin' parties.
The weirdest thing about it all, is I realised anyone can do this. I was a little hotter, my pupils were a little bigger, and I was a little thirstier but I swear we were pinging for ages before we even realised it because it was so forgiving on the body. These kinds of doses surely can't be that bad for the body because you can BARELY feel the side effects, I reckon you could slip it to someone and if they'd never done it before, with such a low dose I doubt they would even know the difference, they would just naturally open up and share their feelings.

It was a real experience, one that has enriched me rather than entertained me. Just when I thought I couldn't get any closer to my friends, an accidental dose of MDMA much smaller than what I would usually take bridged the gap like never before :)

Hope you enjoyed this read guys, I feel like when you take the effort or restraint to just go easy with this drug, it's not quite as much mindless fun but the reward you bring back is infinitely greater.

Happy munting :)
 
Thank you for this report. It's experiences like this that make me genuinely believe that MDMA is medicine for the soul and not just another substance that you can get fucked up on.

Conversations on MDMA can definitely become very liberating and therapeutic. I think this is especially true if you're already excited and happy to be with your rolling partners. Some of the best rolls I've had in my life were with old friends who I haven't seen in several years. :)
 
That was a great first thing to read in the morning for me post.

Does anyone know what sort of doseage is administered for PTSD treatment or other causes?
I would actually really like to try a low dose mdma experience away from the rave scene with other people like this, But not sure if people i know are up for it.

I dont think you would even suffer much of a comedown either, If a comedown at all tbh.

Its just proof though, from your post that people like to really open out and i guess be their innerselves when taking mdma, you must admit everyone has a surface skin, a defence mechanism if you may call it, and using mdma peels that skin away. Leaving us vulnerable but very admitting with our pasts ourselves and who we are, what we think and feel, what we hide even.

You didn't wasnt the mdma afterall by the sounds of it :)
 
That was a great first thing to read in the morning for me post.

Does anyone know what sort of doseage is administered for PTSD treatment or other causes?
I would actually really like to try a low dose mdma experience away from the rave scene with other people like this, But not sure if people i know are up for it.

I dont think you would even suffer much of a comedown either, If a comedown at all tbh.

Its just proof though, from your post that people like to really open out and i guess be their innerselves when taking mdma, you must admit everyone has a surface skin, a defence mechanism if you may call it, and using mdma peels that skin away. Leaving us vulnerable but very admitting with our pasts ourselves and who we are, what we think and feel, what we hide even.

You didn't wasnt the mdma afterall by the sounds of it :)

Im sure they would use about 90mg.

anymore than that and people might start saying things they dont mean, so it makes sense :)
 
I loved this post. This is exactly what I mean when I tell people that MDMA is therapeutic.

Now I'm wondering if I should take a small dose with my boyfriend the first time, so we can really open up and get close. As much as I love rolling face, I love the empathy more.
 
While yeah MDMA has this effect even in low doses, I think there are other things out there that come with less of a price. I loved MDMA when I used to use it, but the toll it takes on my body is far too extreme for me to enjoy it anymore.

Kratom, for one, has a huge empathetic push I find, second only to MDMA. Not counting things like mephedrone, amphetamine, and other 'hard synthetics', kratom is the one substance I find to make me want to chat a person's ear off in the same fashion molly would. Sure, there's plenty of naturals and synths out there that can make a person very 'chatty', but it's not the same empathetic, overly-caring and interested kind of bonding. It's more like "OMG I feel like I'm connecting with this person on levels I never dreamed of!!". Only MDMA and kratom put me into that state. Not even traditional opiates does this for me, I find I just get sedated and want to nod on the big O's. Even weed makes me get all quiet. Kratom is extremely social!

If the empathetic, social, lovey-dovey-gimmie-a-hug aspect of MDMA is a favorite of yours, I highly recommend you give some bali kratom a shot. You might be VERY pleasantly surprised how similar the empathy is, and it even has quite a rewarding euphoria as well. I actually find kratom, and very small amount of psilocybin to be a VERY close experience to MDMA/MDA, and completely safe, natural and non-toxic!!

Hell I'm on 7g of bali kratom right now at work and I'm dying for a conversation. :)
 
To be honest, when I roll I dont even dance, glove or do any of that stuff, I have before but Its just not my motive. Basically I just like melting into my couch surrounded by my mates and with my fuzzy blankets and we just bullshit about life and our problems. Rolling is more of a Problem solving thing that I like to do.
 
^ Sounds like you do too much mdma for you to be able to dance on,
Thats my problem too lol,
Id rather just Etard and mong out against a wall at a rave, in bliss/peaceful land most of the time,

But i would really like to try a low dose,
but i need a chatty social environment.
 
i got the same way with methylone ~150mg. i think it has more to do with the set and setting than the dose, i was at my friends house with a bunch of good friends and the lights dim. we just talked and opened up like nothing. never felt so much empathy except from shrooms. rolling at raves is completely different from a small close setting
 
^ Sounds like you do too much mdma for you to be able to dance on,
Thats my problem too lol,
Id rather just Etard and mong out against a wall at a rave, in bliss/peaceful land most of the time,

But i would really like to try a low dose,
but i need a chatty social environment.

Nahh, the most i've ever taken in a night is 185mgs. I usually hover around 140 and relax
 
Hi I've seen mentions of 40 to 60 mg for therapeutic use.
Interesting that you only really noticed the mdma effect after you had smoked.
 
Hi I've seen mentions of 40 to 60 mg for therapeutic use.
Interesting that you only really noticed the mdma effect after you had smoked.

I would imagine that 40 mg would be too low to feel anything. Maybe a slight "something is not quite right" but that's about it. I think with low doses it's important to do enough to feel something, otherwise you're just going to feel the come up and then nothing. I would recommend aiming at ~80 mg for a low dose MDMA experience (as per Shulgin).
 
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