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MDMA and aspergers?

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michael_1992

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Ok well ill intro myself since im new, im an 18 year old from Florida who has aspergers(very very mild for of autism). well i have for the past year been wondering about the mdma , i have read it makes everyone have empathy and read peoples emotions more and just have "smoother" conversations (is that true?) well i want to try it (though my aspergers makes finding connections for anything other than weed hard, but im sure i can do it), well in case u dont know aspergers is a disorder that makes it hard to read social cues and emotions and it also means social skills dont come natural and my conversations have no "smoothness or flow", will mdma help with this?
 
I have aspergers.

I'm not sure how much it will help. If guided you might have no issue, but be careful. It isn't as mechanical a fix as you may imagine.
 
Samael said:
It isn't as mechanical a fix as you may imagine.
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This.

MDMA makes you feel more connected to people, and that might help you make the connections with people or at least let your guard down, but if the mechanics of your ability to make connections with people aren't intact, then MDMA won't make them so; in fact, I would worry that MDMA might distort your perspective even more particularly relative to social boundaries with others (particularly others of your preferred sex)
 
i am on the border for aspergers and i find mdma makes me feel love for people and i have on more than one occasion thought that someone fancied me (on MDMA) but i was reading people inaccurately. it will only give you the feeling of empathy, but if you are bad at reading people your idea of what they feel may be inaccurate even though you feel it strongly for once.

if you have work out how other people are feeling with logic rather than instinct mdma will just switch the logic into overdive (it wont magically give you the instinct)
 
I echo the above posters, although I haven't experienced that effect personally.

I am autistic, and all that touchy-feely stuff feels somehow fake, as it isn't naturally me, I wouldn't use the word empathy to describe it, as I have no problem feeling for other people.

I wouldn't be caught dead in a hug-pile though, ew =D
 
well i loved hugging and all that mad loved up shit on mdma but it didn't make me better at reading people although i thought i was better at the time, in retrospect i was just more inclined to talk to people about their feelings even though my insight was still very weak.
 
You may think I am joking but I think I might have undiagnosed asperger's. People seem to take what I say the wrong way a lot of times and I know what the OP means by social skills limiting networking ability in the 'scene'. To the OP, how were you diagnosed?
 
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PaulyPointz said:
You may think I am joking but I think I might have undiagnosed asperger's. People seem to take what I say the wrong way a lot of times and I know what the OP means by social skills limiting networking ability in the 'scene'. To the OP, how were you diagnosed?
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i was diagnosed by a psychiatrist who specializes in the field of social disorders/ autism/ aspergers
 
Have you tried asking your psychiatrist? I know that asking chemists to check the validity of your mdma is legal in some countries; psychiatrists should be able to assist in determining outcomes from use.
 
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misscandy said:
Have you tried asking your psychiatrist? I know that asking chemists to check the validity of your mdma is legal in some countries; psychiatrists should be able to assist in determining outcomes from use.
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yea but i have adhd , and take adderall ( a schedule 2 substance) i dont want the docs to know i wanna do mdma. they might not give me adderall anymore.
 
Depends on the doctor in question, best off making sure it is one who isn't a judgemental prick, one of those who would go to any lengths to give a patient the help they need, not what they WANT, but what they need.

Including honest answers, but not to judge for it.

Some do, some do not, I have a doc who runs the local practise I use, who continues to use meds that I actually need to get by day to day, even though some less senior docs give him hassle over it, that I could talk to. Said GP even comes to me if he needs info on things of abuse or common/beginning but uncommon use starting to happen, such as the piperazines problem.

One of the others there, on the other hand, if she knew I took AChE inhibitors to offset my memory loss problem (one cannot get them prescribed here, unless its dementia or alzheimers) I would likely be judged a 'drug abuser' and cut off my painkillers, and antiinflammatories.

Depends entirely on the doc.
 
michael_1992 said:
yea but i have adhd , and take adderall ( a schedule 2 substance) i dont want the docs to know i wanna do mdma. they might not give me adderall anymore.
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It all depends on the doctor but I don't think it is a good idea especially with a drug with as bad of irrational negative bias as mdma. He also may take the fact that you want to try it the wrong way.

Mentioning recreational drugs when your perscribed controlled substances is really not that great of an idea. I got drug tested because I'm on pain medication and I tested positive for marijuana. I thought my doctor would understand because of how much I'm sufforing from multiple conditions/problems and the fact that it helped me in a vairity of ways. Even considered telling her I smoke. I couldn't of been more wrong She stoped perscribing me my pain medication and said I'd have to go to a pain clinic for it. She was even ready to kick me out of the practise. I was able to get her to percribe me my pain meds again but had to see a psycologist to validate I'm not a drug addict. If I test possitive again I'll be denied a new medication she planning on starting to help treat and surpress my condition and be droped as a patient. Her entire argument was based off of complete bullshit.
 
I've seen studies that a full blown psychedelic (LSD) has helped people with autism connect with others, but with any sort of psychiatric disorder I'd caution thinking any psychedelic/entactogewn will be an automatic fix; it may infact bring any latent conditions to the surface (LSD well and truely unleashed my latent manic depression, so be careful)

Mentioning recreational drugs when your perscribed controlled substances is really not that great of an idea. I got drug tested because I'm on pain medication and I tested positive for marijuana. I thought my doctor would understand because of how much I'm sufforing from multiple conditions/problems and the fact that it helped me in a vairity of ways. Even considered telling her I smoke. I couldn't of been more wrong She stoped perscribing me my pain medication and said I'd have to go to a pain clinic for it.
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I'd say that was a perfect example of a reactionary, heartless bitch. Any doctor with any degree of compassion would understand the urge to self medicate when the prescribed medicines aren't doing an adequate job. She's obviously someone who's never suffered from a painful condition. I told my doctor that I use cannabis for phantom limb pain as nothing else comes close (well except for ketamine, but I'd rather not go down that route as I've had problems with it in the past - doc knows about that as well) and his only comment was"try not to get caught with any"! He was still willing to prescribe opiates, but I declined as methadone is the only one that even had a noticable effect on the pain and I can do without yet another drug I have problems with
 
I think mushrooms did in my early days, did them pretty young (it helped to have an obsession with mycology=D)

Definately noticed an increased 'connection' with all that interpersonal stuff, and most importantly, self-awareness/ability to relate mind state to body state.
 
A good psychic toilet-flushing helps every now and then, psilocybin is truly excellent for this, to clear out all the accumulated shite and fluff that builds up over the weeks and months.

Clears my mind, or rather, acts as the catalyst that enables me to take a new look at things from fresh angles, and clear my own mind, think amphetamines for the lil homunculus in there up top that otherwise is a lazy bastard who would rather be watching TV and smoking bongs or rocking back and forth to doom/black metal music and stimming than cleaning house=D
 
I've been diagnosed with Asperger's, and I do think pills have made me more social and empathetic in general over the past few years. Or maybe it was just inevitable maturing.
 
I'm not sure if I have asperger's (I'm a hypochondriac, so I assume I do) or if I'm just socially awkward, but I tend to struggle in some social situations. The first time I took ecstasy was on NYE at a rave, and I took 3 shitty pills. It didn't affect my social skills much that night.

However, the day after was my friends bday party. Before I even started drinking I felt as if I could communicate socially with such ease. I began drinking later that night and made many friends; people even told me I was the life of the party (around 50-70 heads).

I was intrigued about this change and was wondering if the ecstasy caused it... so I googled "ecstasy curing aspergers" but only got some forum website that requires you to be a member to see. The fact that something useful appeared made me hopeful. I tried it a few other times, sometimes it helped, sometimes it didnt. I'm guessing the outcome really depends on the mood of your roll.

Also, don't overdo it. I've rolled a little too much and am recovering from minor social anxiety, definately not fun. Good luck if you decide to try!
 
i think empathy is overrated - i find it hard to empathise in an emotional way, i just have tolerance for people's moods when i'm at work
 
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